FTTH installation equipment ONT / ODP / Wireless Routers etc...

Rossi IRL

tuxy wrote: »

Yeah I'd say 3 are needed in many cases. One near the router, one in a half way point and one where you normally get a weak signal.

Ah no like they do cover some distance. I have one where I use to get no signal with nothing in between it.

2 was doing the job but there was still one room with no signal and the satellite was £80 off on black Friday.

I have an odd shaped house which it the reason I needed the 3rd.

tuxy

I see but you probably much better 5 Ghz coverage all over now?

Rossi IRL

tuxy wrote: »

I see but you probably much better 5 Ghz coverage all over now?

Sure do, in every corner of the house and even a little outside which will be handy during the summer.

KeRbDoG

tuxy wrote: »

Run Cat5e or Cat6 it's much more robust than fibre. You have 100 meters to work with using that.
The installer will only use equipment that OE have authorised.

The ONT will now be sitting in the ODP cradle.
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Andy From Sligo wrote: »

thanks, its cheaper as well - so might go with that then

Fiber is more robust than most people think - benefit of using fiber in your setup is that you don't need an active device in the bedroom that needs to be powered

Andy From Sligo

someone indicated on the rural fibre thread on boards that their installer said that they were going back to separate ONT and ODP once all the cradle ones are all used up

Andy From Sligo

I suppose a person could not link up one of these all-in-one router with Built in ONT thats for sale on ebay UK ? - it has g-pon socket at the bottom an 802.11ac wireless so capable of handling up to 1gbps .

But i believe that, if I have it right that the serial number of the ONT's link up to the OLT at the exchange and that if you try to put on an OLT not supplied by eir (or one of the other approved internet providers/installers) it gets disconnected from the OLT as a 'rogue ONT' ? - have I that right?

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/HUAWEI-Fibre-Optic-HS8145V-1POTS-Dual-Band-WI-FI-GPON-ONT/273849270180?hash=item3fc2b03fa4:g:ERcAAOSwRkJc9mPX


only thing is that it looks like it uses a blue plug SC/UPC fibre termination where by the Irish system uses a Green SC/APC plug (I dont know what the difference is)

ED E

Andy from Sligo you should get a name change to Amnesia Andy. You've had this explained to you multiple times in this very bloody thread.

Andy From Sligo

ED E wrote: »

Andy from Sligo you should get a name change to Amnesia Andy. You've had this explained to you multiple times in this very bloody thread.

ya i know i am a pain not searching for the answer again but it was a long time ago - whatever happened to people just being nicer to other people these days and just have a look at the link i posted to this huawei combined ONT and wireless router and just say if they reckon it would work on the irish system or not and a brief wht not (even if it is again, or they have explained it before) its no real hardship is it?

I am not looking for an exhaustive answer just a

"no andy that wont work on the Irish system" or " yes andy. officially not, but in principle it could"

and if no a brief "it wont work because" -

there - not even a minute of someones life to reply

I cannot see what the problem is to be nice to another boards member?

fritzelly

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

ya i know i am a pain not searching for the answer again but it was a long time ago

I'm not you and even I remember you asking the same question...multiple times

Andy From Sligo

fritzelly wrote: »

I'm not you and even I remember you asking the same question...multiple times

OK

Andy From Sligo

I dont remember asking about this model that is now on ebay now.

I think i remeber asking before but it was a random unknown chinese make and had only 802.11n which wouldnt have been good for people on a 1TB connection

ED E

It wasnt a long time ago, it was 7 months ago. And 8 months ago (as Navi points out in P2 of THIS thread). And probably 10 months ago too.


People don't mind being helpful, feck I've 30k bloody posts on Boards most of them giving advice not asking, but asking the same thing like a toddler is fierce bloody infuriating.



So:

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THEN

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BUY/STEAL/FIND/MANUFACTURE

IT

THEN

IT

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NOT.

tuxy

So you have gone back to the position where you want to **** with the network and take up to 31 of your neighbours offline?

What happened to the idea of running cat5e/6 cable to where you wanted the router in you house? It took us 2 months to convince you that this easy and reliable solution was the only sensible option.

Are you having trouble getting the cable to run from the bedroom to the hall?

MBSnr

Funnily enough when Andy mentioned he was closer to getting an install, I was going to post in the main FTTH thread,

"Please Andy leave the ONT alone!!

For our benefit...."

Andy From Sligo

tuxy wrote: »

So you have gone back to the position where you want to **** with the network and take up to 31 of your neighbours offline?

....

you most probably know more than I do in this field and are more qualified... - but that not an OTT reaction no?

tuxy

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

you most probably know more than I do in this field and are more qualified... - but that not an OTT reaction no?

Hardly, people spent two months explaining all this last time and you come on here again acting like it never happened...... two months!
At this stage I won't mind you messing with the ONT and getting black listed but I'd rather people near by didn't suffer too.

Andy From Sligo

listen up guys I have been saying this on numerous occasions in these threads but people must have forgot (or not searched - how ironic ) but i will reiterate ...

I will say it yet again though, I am not going to actually going to buy any of these combo boxes or have any plan to fit one to the Irish FTTH network/infrastructure I am just trying trying to see if one of these boxes will actually physically work ? and specifically this latest one -i'm only curious

If the answers the same as all the times I have asked before then OK ... and thank you very much ... and sorry to have wasted your precious time everyone

tuxy

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

listen up guys I have been saying this on numerous occasions in these threads but people must have forgot (or not searched - how ironic ) but i will reiterate ...

I will say it yet again though, I am not going to actually going to buy any of these combo boxes or have any plan to fit one to the Irish FTTH network/infrastructure I am just trying trying to see if one of these boxes will actually physically work ? and specifically this latest one -i'm only curious

If the answers the same as all the times I have asked before then OK ... and thank you very much ... and sorry to have wasted your precious time everyone

But we already explained that it takes Open Eir months of testing before they know if a device is safe to roll-out on their network. So unless Open Eir decides to test whatever device you're looking at the answer is no one knows but it's not worth the consequences of finding out it doesn't.

Andy From Sligo

tuxy wrote: »

Hardly, people spent two months explaining all this last time and you come on here again acting like it never happened...... two months!
At this stage I won't mind you messing with the ONT and getting black listed but I'd rather people near by didn't suffer too.

blimey 2 months really. I hadn't realised that - was that solidly? - or do you want me to do a search and read all my past posts?

fritzelly

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

or do you want me to do a search and read all my past posts?

I dare you

Andy From Sligo

tuxy wrote: »

But we already explained that it takes Open Eir months of testing before they know if a device is safe to roll-out on their network. So unless Open Eir decides to test whatever device you're looking at the answer is no one knows but it's not worth the consequences of finding out it doesn't.

thank you thats more civil answer. Right yes I forgot that bit about that they have to extensively test a product before giving it approval/putting it into circulation. So , for the fact that it is a Huawei box and that they have been using Huawei products for yonks (although that must hang in the balance now these days) I would have thought it may have been on the approved list already .. you know like it being a tried and tested make like that

tuxy

Forget who makes the product, every network is different. Testing is expensive, why test something that will never be used?

Andy From Sligo

tuxy wrote: »

Forget who makes the product, every network is different. Testing is expensive, why test something that will never be used?

is there any radical / logical reason why a combined unit such as this would not be considered / never be used? - I'm trying to think why it wouldnt (or has that been answered before too?)

tuxy

Something like that could be used if Open Eir wanted to restrict what routers providers used. If the goal was to lock customers in to only have the option of one or maybe two routers that would be the way to do it. It would also give people less flexibility on router placement in the home unless installers are going to start running long optical cables inside adding to the install cost.

digiman

Found this thread when setting up my Orbi to work with my eir FTTH ONT.

My setup is like this:

ONT <--> 8 port switch <--> Orbi Router VLAN 10 is tagged on the ONT and the WAN port in order to make this work.

Question is, does anyone know if it's possible to use the WAN port as a WAN and a LAN at the same time? The rest of my network connects to the switch and I don't really want to connect my network like below:

ONT <--> Orbit Router WAN
Orbit Router LAN <--> 8 port switch

Posted this in the Netgear forums as well so hopefully get an answer somewhere.

ED E

digiman wrote: »

Found this thread when setting up my Orbi to work with my eir FTTH ONT.

My setup is like this:

ONT <--> 8 port switch <--> Orbi Router VLAN 10 is tagged on the ONT and the WAN port in order to make this work.

Question is, does anyone know if it's possible to use the WAN port as a WAN and a LAN at the same time? The rest of my network connects to the switch and I don't really want to connect my network like below:

ONT <--> Orbit Router WAN
Orbit Router LAN <--> 8 port switch

Posted this in the Netgear forums as well so hopefully get an answer somewhere.

No.

Are the devices physically distant, is that why you're doing it? In any case if it werent for the VLAN tags you'd have all your internal devices directly on the net without any NAT in between - usually a terrible idea.

digiman

ED E wrote: »

No.

Are the devices physically distant, is that why you're doing it? In any case if it werent for the VLAN tags you'd have all your internal devices directly on the net without any NAT in between - usually a terrible idea.

Yes, they are in different rooms and I’ve only got one cable from the room I want to put the Orbi router in and where the ONT is. What I done is put in a switch in the room where the Orbi router is and this allows me to connect the WAN and LAN port to the switch and the switch can then backhaul the WAN and LAN traffic over just the one cable between the rooms.

Understand the VLAN tags are saving me here, as the WAN port has my internet IP address and my LAN has all my local IP address.

Working now anyway, getting good results with speeds ranging from 500-825Mbps around the house with 25 devices connected.

Good setup, managed to pick up the Orbi AX6000 from the Amazon Germany warehouse with 30% off and ended up with a brand new device. Saved over €300 compared to the best price available during Black Friday