The Downfall of Conor McGregor

WinOrLearn BusFighter

It was nice for a lot to watch his rise to fame. I think it might now be time to sit back and enjoy his downfall. And yes, I know many will say he's worth more now than ever, but for me his downfall has nothing to do with money and more so the surge in character weaknesses lately.

I suspected that was the end of him when I saw him throw the tantrum in the bellator last October, punching a referee in the face while climbing the net. Later there was his failure to show at court for speeding. When did you suspect things were beginning to turn for him?

I think most people knew it was over for him when he, and his go fors, flew across the atlantic to fight a bus. What the actual f**k. What kind of person looks for a false sense of power in that manner? But what was most interesting about it, was how they can clearly be seen shouting "whoo ooh" as they leave the bus afterwards. This shouting shows that, in their minds, that it was a case of 'mission accomplished'. It was as if they were a bunch of teenagers who vandalised their first bus stop. He claims he was standing up for a friend?! But I think it was really a cry for attention. And by coincidence the guy who he was after was about to take his title. As for me, I would be so embarrassed if he was my friend. You'd never know when he might try and "stand up" for you!

He clearly wasn't sorry for anything about the bus incident. Obviously he was going to get away with it all because he's a celebrity. But I can only assume that after that Brooklyn incident, that his fan base was reduced to the remaining scumbags.

I've no doubt he softened a bit following his winning of $100 million last year, and that he's done quite a bit of drugs since then. On twitter he tried to frame his latest loss as a win by saying "we lost the match but we won the battle. The war goes on". Are we meant to think that he's heroic because he thinks he's "at war". After the bus incident I got a few of people saying to me "oh but he's actually really nice, I met him once". I say what I say to all of them "he can be nice enough when he wants to".

Imagine if he retired two years ago. He'd have gone down as a hero in the eyes of many. Instead of going on to make a fool of himself.

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I don’t think anyone’s downfall is something to enjoy, but that’s just me

bobbysands81

I wouldn’t mind a bit of his downfall.

Tell me Conor, where did it all go wrong?

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JupiterKid

McGregor is a classic case of pride before the fall. I have little sympathy for him - he is the architect of his own demise...

Twenty Grand

Downfall? You must be joking. The man is more popular than ever! The hype over the last fight with Khabib was immense.

EDIT: He's the richest MMA fighter in the world at $85 million, though most of that was made from the cool $30 million he made fighting Mayweather. He has 3 of the 4 highest UFC ppv fights I believe and will make an obscene amount of money from the fight last week, given his whiskey (which has sold out in most places) was sponsoring the event.

And his fight record is still 21-4, which is very impressive.
Downfall indeed... :rolleyes:

The Crowman

Eden Noisy Gunrunner wrote: »

I don’t think anyone’s downfall is something to enjoy, but that’s just me

It is when they deserve it.

Twenty Grand

The Crowman wrote: »

It is when they deserve it.

McGregor is an actor. MMA isn't far from WWE at this stage.

Guarantee they'll turn the Khabib fight into a grudge match and hype the hell out of it again. They're making too much money not to.

feargale

There are always enough yobs and idiots in the world to glamourise thuggery and vulgarity. It seems to be getting more prevalent. It will have a bad end. It always does.

Billy86

JupiterKid wrote: »

McGregor is a classic case of pride before the fall. I have little sympathy for him - he is the architect of his own demise...

I was a big fan of his in the first few years and enjoyed the whole panto villain aspect he brought.

He started getting just irritating for me as the Mayweather buildup carried on and on (and on and on and on...) and since his incident with the bus where he put possible careers and eyesight of other ufc fighters at risk (and those guys really don't make big money for the most part) he's lost my interest entirely. I was reasonably happy to see him lose to Khabib recently.













All that said, "who the f*ck is that guy?" is still and will forever be the greatest comeback of all time. :pac:

PapaOscar

But he never punched a ref in the face.

Still Ill

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Downfall? You must be joking. The man is more popular than ever! The hype over the last fight with Khalid was immense.

EDIT: He's the richest MMA fighter in the world at $85 million, though most of that was made from the cool $30 million he made fighting Mayweather. He has 3 of the 4 highest UFC ppv fights I believe and will make an obscene amount of money from the fight last week, given his whiskey (which has sold out in most places) was sponsoring the event.

And his fight record is still 21-4, which is very impressive.
Downfall indeed... :rolleyes:

Who the **** is that guy?!

Canis Lupus

Still Ill wrote: »

Who the **** is that guy?!

He's a DJ

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Still Ill wrote: »

Who the **** is that guy?!

Indian wrestler. Seven feet and a few inches.

The problem with McGregor is that he failed to keep his feet on the ground. Outstanding fighter, good pantomime baddie as someone said, wealthy, decent record.... but lost the belt and got carried away with the outside antics.

Was only a matter of time.

joeguevara

Although this is an after hours thread on McGregor which usually descends into chaos, I thought I would give my opinion.

Firstly, I think he was grossly under prepared for the Khabib fight and was more interested in promoting merchandise. But this loss can’t be seen as a downfall. It is what he does from here. If he takes stock and prepares in a full and proper camp and goes for a rematch, the result will determine whether he can continue as he is going. If he can’t be the best then his whole persona becomes null and void.

But downfall? One of the richest sport stars in the world. Worldwide celebrity status which he can cash in on merchandise and tv. Can do exhibition fights where the purse is the stuff of legend.

Downfall to me is losing everything and becoming a sorry loser. Sorry, don’t see that.

If he wants to be a true legend he needs to see if he can get the hunger back. But that’s a different question as to what this thread is trying to hypothesize.

The Crowman

His close relationship with a certain Dublin criminal family doesn't help his image either, though I imagine certain scumbags and muppets see it as giving him street cred.

facehugger99

He'll be dead of a drug overdose by his mid-40's is my prediction.

TerrorFirmer

Loses to the best LW in the world (and puts up a better performance than given credit for from people who don't understand wrestling/grappling and the insane talent of Khabib) and he's now on a downward spiral and set to be forgotten by history.

OK.

vandriver

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_Brian

Eden Noisy Gunrunner wrote: »

I don’t think anyone’s downfall is something to enjoy, but that’s just me

Ohh I think it’s a VERY Irish thing to enjoy some people’s dowmfall, his in particular will be enjoyed by many.

pgj2015

Billy86 wrote: »

I was a big fan of his in the first few years and enjoyed the whole panto villain aspect he brought.

He started getting just irritating for me as the Mayweather buildup carried on and on (and on and on and on...) and since his incident with the bus where he put possible careers and eyesight of other ufc fighters at risk (and those guys really don't make big money for the most part) he's lost my interest entirely. I was reasonably happy to see him lose to Khabib recently.













All that said, "who the f*ck is that guy?" is still and will forever be the greatest comeback of all time. :pac:

it wasn't that great of a comeback to be fair.

99% of people i talked to the day of his last fight, were hoping he would loose, seems like most of the irish population cant stand him anymore.

if you had a friend like mcgregor you wouldnt be long telling him to cop the f**k on, but just because he has a lot of money, some people seem to think he can do what he wants.

weldoninhio

pgj2015 wrote: »

it wasn't that great of a comeback to be fair.

99% of people i talked to the day of his last fight, were hoping he would loose, seems like most of the irish population cant stand him anymore.

if you had a friend like mcgregor you wouldnt be long telling him to cop the f**k on, but just because he has a lot of money, some people seem to think he can do what he wants.

Exactly this. Call him out on his scummy behaviour and you get his fanclub talking about how rich he is, as if it is a valid excuse.

Diemos

Twenty Grand wrote: »

McGregor is an actor. MMA isn't far from WWE at this stage.

Guarantee they'll turn the Khalid fight into a grudge match and hype the hell out of it again. They're making too much money not to.

Who the fook is that guy?

Greyfox

Twenty Grand wrote: »

McGregor is an actor. MMA isn't far from WWE at this stage.

Ah here, this nonsense again, you may as well be saying the earth is flat, MMA is as real as football

weldoninhio

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Indian wrestler. Seven feet and a few inches.

The problem with McGregor is that he failed to keep his feet on the ground. Outstanding fighter, good pantomime baddie as someone said, wealthy, decent record.... but lost the belt and got carried away with the outside antics.

Was only a matter of time.

Thats Khalil

Tombo2001

I've read too many articles about the downfall of Conor McGregor to think his downfall will be happening any time soon.

In fact - a big part of the reason he gets so much press is that so many people want to see his downfall.

So well done everyone for contributing to his success.

con___manx1

The Op is wrong about the whole bus situation. Mcgregor done that to turrn the fight into a big grudge match to draw more paper views.it was all planned. Its wasnt just him being a pure nacker. If i was him thats what i would have done. That bus stunt made him millions in extra paper views. Mcgregor isnt as stupid as a lot of people think he is.

weldoninhio

Diemos wrote: »

Who the fook is that guy?

Wasn't really funny in post #11, didn't get any funnier 11 posts later.

Greyfox

pgj2015 wrote: »

just because he has a lot of money, some people seem to think he can do what he wants.

My opinion of him has gone down a lot but he's still going to make huge money over the next 5 years. Acting like a bit of a scummer has led him to making a lot more money than if he was a nice guy

Effects

feargale wrote: »

There are always enough yobs and idiots in the world to glamourise thuggery and vulgarity. It seems to be getting more prevalent. It will have a bad end. It always does.

Boxing is still going isn't it?

Diemos

pgj2015 wrote: »

it wasn't that great of a comeback to be fair.

99% of people i talked to the day of his last fight, were hoping he would loose, seems like most of the irish population cant stand him anymore.

if you had a friend like mcgregor you wouldnt be long telling him to cop the f**k on, but just because he has a lot of money, some people seem to think he can do what he wants.

1st in the context of the press conference it was an amazing shot.
Like him or loathe him, Conor has chnaged MMA, there was a before and an after Conor. The interaction with the media and fans, the dress code he changed everything.

There is a massive snobbery in Irish media around him, they've been dying to get their teeth into him.

I do agree with your last point, since he won his last UFC fight he seems to have had his head turned. His people who were with him on the way up should talk to him about the snakes around him now. Would he listen though?

JoeyJJ

The ignorance in the first few comments alone is hilarious.... not a clue about the sport.

Effects

Twenty Grand wrote: »

The hype over the last fight with Khalid was immense.

Conor has yet to actually fight DJ Khalid.

EDIT: He's the richest MMA fighter in the world at $85 million, though most of that was made from the cool $30 million he made fighting Mayweather.

You're probably a good bit off with that $30 million figure.

Wanderer78

con___manx1 wrote:

The Op is wrong about the whole bus situation. Mcgregor done that to turrn the fight into a big grudge match to draw more paper views.it was all planned. Its wasnt just him being a pure nacker. If i was him thats what i would have done. That bus stunt made him millions in extra paper views. Mcgregor isnt as stupid as a lot of people think he is.

He isn't exactly the sharpest tool, a good fighter, yes, intelligent, no, his downfall was always gonna occur, but I think it's somewhat disturbing the amount of young people that think he's some sort of marketing genius, he's not folks, and he's not a particularly good role model either.

DrumSteve

weldoninhio wrote: »

Thats Khalil

Nah man, that's the Great Khali.

Khalid is an RnB singer (not to be confused with DJ Khalid)

weldoninhio

Diemos wrote: »

1st in the context of the press conference it was an amazing shot.
Like him or loathe him, Conor has chnaged MMA, there was a before and an after Conor. The interaction with the media and fans, the dress code he changed everything.

There is a massive snobbery in Irish media around him, they've been dying to get their teeth into him.

I do agree with your last point, since he won his last UFC fight he seems to have had his head turned. His people who were with him on the way up should talk to him about the snakes around him now. Would he listen though?

It was probably the last witty thing he's said though.

Seámus-Púbach

I'd say Joe Brolly is behind this thread.....

Effects

Greyfox wrote: »

Ah here, this nonsense again, you may as well be saying the earth is flat, MMA is as real as football

Soccer or GAA?

We all know that GAA has an unexpected violence that's unmatched by the UFC.

rob316

I'll happily take a downfall after a couple hundred million in earnings of a short career.

Wanderer78

rob316 wrote:

I'll happily take a downfall after a couple hundred million in earnings of a short career.

The unfortunate side effects of such downfalls is the loss of wealth gained, this may not end well

Neyite

_Brian wrote: »

Ohh I think it’s a VERY Irish thing to enjoy some people’s dowmfall, his in particular will be enjoyed by many.

Maybe but it's the Germans who have an actual word for it.

Tombo2001

Completely daft.

I've never watched any of his fights from start to finish; I've seen a few highlights after the event.

But I know enough about this guy to say he is an abslolute phenomenon - a guy with a one in a million talent to manage a celebrity persona and just enough sporting talent to back it up.

On his way to becoming Europe's first billionaire sportsperson.......Sitting with Putin at the world cup final; touring around the Dallas Cowboys stadium at the weekend with all the players gathered around him; 26 million followers on Instagram.

Lads - get a grip. Look at your own lives. There is no downfall here to talk about.

rob316

Wanderer78 wrote: »

The unfortunate side effects of such downfalls is the loss of wealth gained, this may not end well

He's got more money than he could ever spend, children and probably grandchildren sorted for life.

Wanderer78

rob316 wrote:

He's got more money than he could ever spend, children and probably grandchildren sorted for life.

Somewhat disagree there, he is very wealthy, but he'd be near the bottom of the pile of the wealthiest, you could spend all his wealth in one go, easy, but sadly, such downfalls tend to lead to being completely broke also, it's relatively common, a bit of intelligence is required to maintain some wealth, so we ll see what happens

Allinall

JoeyJJ wrote: »

The ignorance in the first few comments alone is hilarious.... not a clue about the sport.

Sport?

Hahahahaha

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Eden Noisy Gunrunner wrote: »

I don’t think anyone’s downfall is something to enjoy, but that’s just me

There is a German word (of course there is) for this.

Schadenfreude

is the experience of pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction that comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of another.

JoeyJJ

Allinall wrote: »

Sport?

Hahahahaha

Yes MMA is a sport just like Rugby, Boxing, American Football, Kick boxing etc. The ignorance around the sport is mind blowing. Conor is not typical of MMA. Lots of us have been following MMA well before Conor came and will be after he leaves us however as someone said on the Conor thread on MMA forum, what a ride it has been.

You listen to people like Joe Brolly that hasn't a clue about the sport who only want to damage is as their sport is at its worst point in recent history and no I don't include Hurling in that, that is probably at its highest in decades and I love it too.

granturismo

Greyfox wrote: »

Ah here, this nonsense again, you may as well be saying the earth is flat, MMA is as real as football

Yes, its real inside the ring and training but the hype, weigh in trash talk thats all WWE territory.

Effects

Allinall wrote: »

Sport?

Hahahahaha

You should probably stick to Golf if you don't know what sports are Grand Dad.

Allinall

JoeyJJ wrote: »

Yes MMA is a sport just like Rugby, Boxing, American Football, Kick boxing etc. The ignorance around the sport is mind blowing. Conor is not typical of MMA. Lots of us have been following MMA well before Conor came and will be after he leaves us however as someone said on the Conor thread on MMA forum, what a ride it has been.

You listen to people like Joe Brolly that hasn't a clue about the sport who only want to damage is as their sport is at its worst point in recent history and no I don't include Hurling in that, that is probably at its highest in decades and I love it too.

It’s as much of a sport as Jack and the Beanstalk is in the Gaiety at Christmas time

sideswipe

Conor McGregor is a wasted opportunity to appeal to and inspire a generation of young Irish kids. I always look at him and his loutish behaviour and cringe at the thoughts of young fellas aspiring to be like him. He could be a true rags to riches success story where hard work and talent can take you to the very top. Instead you see him pulling up in front of courthouses acting the gangster or throwing things at buses.

JoeyJJ

Allinall wrote: »

It’s as much of a sport as Jack and the Beanstalk is in the Gaiety at Christmas time

Well unless you can provide intelligent feedback this conversation falls into the panto category. Can't argue with idiots...