Administrative Officers 2018 in the Civil Service

LordBasil · 16-10-2018 12:44pm

Got notification of tests. Tests will issue by 18th Oct and need to be completed by 24th Oct.

3 Tests;

Graduate Questionnaire
Verbal
Numerical

bmcb · 16-10-2018 12:48pm

LordBasil wrote: »

Got notification of tests. Tests will issue by 18th Oct and need to be completed by 24th Oct.

3 Tests;

Graduate Questionnaire
Verbal
Numerical

Well done! I didn’t get any notification. Mustn’t have qualified ðŸ˜ž

engiweirdo · 16-10-2018 12:53pm

What are the tests like? Would they be anything like the ones for the ESB grad programme?

LordBasil · 16-10-2018 12:55pm

engiweirdo wrote: »

What are the tests like? Would they be anything like the ones for the ESB grad programme?

Sample Tests are found here;

https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/information-hub/our-recruitment-process/test-advice

engiweirdo · 16-10-2018 12:58pm

LordBasil wrote: »

Sample Tests are found here;

https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/information-hub/our-recruitment-process/test-advice

Thank you.

tgdaly · 16-10-2018 1:13pm

bmcb wrote: »

Well done! I didn’t get any notification. Mustn’t have qualified ðŸ˜ž

Check your public jobs message board. I've the message on that but didn't get the notification email yet

engiweirdo · 16-10-2018 1:24pm

They look handy out. Are the real ones the same or more difficult?

duffman13 · 16-10-2018 1:29pm

engiweirdo wrote: »

They look handy out. Are the real ones the same or more difficult?

The practice ones more demonstrate style of question as opposed to the difficulty. They will be more difficult than the practice ones

LordBasil · 16-10-2018 1:29pm

engiweirdo wrote: »

They look handy out. Are the real ones the same or more difficult?

They usually are very similar to practice tests.

Aisling(",) · 16-10-2018 1:39pm

Oh closing date for the tests in next Wednesday.
Looks like this process should move along swiftly

snoopmadra14 · 16-10-2018 5:27pm

bmcb wrote: »

Well done! I didn’t get any notification. Mustn’t have qualified ��

I found out by pure accident that there was info out about the tests. My friend got a notification around 12 by text but i'm only signed up for email notifications and still haven't gotten anything. The message is on the message board.

AFAIK everyone who submitted an application properly gets to do the online tests, shortlisting only begins after the online tests.

Good luck everyone!

uck51js9zml2yt · 16-10-2018 6:03pm

LordBasil wrote: »

They usually are very similar to practice tests.

I lost the will to live doing it last time.!

CZ 453 · 16-10-2018 6:10pm

Tegan Spoiled Preschooler wrote: »

I lost the will to live doing it last time.!

I could do the verbal reasoning a 100 times and score differently each time.

PhoenixParker · 16-10-2018 6:15pm

That practice test is considerably easier then any of the other numerical tests I've done via pas, either practice or actual.

Maybe they're moving to make them easier?
Either that or the practice is deceptively easy.

The_Conductor · 16-10-2018 6:26pm

PhoenixParker wrote: »

That practice test is considerably easier then any of the other numerical tests I've done via pas, either practice or actual.

Maybe they're moving to make them easier?
Either that or the practice is deceptively easy.

Its the latter.......

engiweirdo · 16-10-2018 8:05pm

Is there a separate set of tests for the Revenue AO competition and Local Government roles or is it a shared set of scores?

Pai Mei · 16-10-2018 8:17pm

It states on the first page of the info booklet that "You can also expect the actual tests to be more difficult than the practice tests". So yeah the test itself will be more difficult.

November Golf · 16-10-2018 9:02pm

engiweirdo wrote: »

Is there a separate set of tests for the Revenue AO competition and Local Government roles or is it a shared set of scores?

Don't know about LG but revenue tests are separate from PAS so if you applied for both you will need to do two sets of tests.

franklyon · 18-10-2018 12:02pm

tests are up

Dalio · 18-10-2018 1:36pm

franklyon wrote: »

tests are up

I did this exam last year and made a terrible job on the Maths any advice guys and how to approach the questions?

uck51js9zml2yt · 18-10-2018 6:18pm

Dalio wrote: »

I did this exam last year and made a terrible job on the Maths any advice guys and how to approach the questions?

If you've completed the tests without loosing the will to live then you've done well

Calculator is important

Kissyfer · 18-10-2018 8:16pm

Ive done these a few times before but always seems to be the questionnaire that I do worst in any tips for giving them what they actually want?:)

engiweirdo · 18-10-2018 8:41pm

Kissyfer wrote: »

Ive done these a few times before but always seems to be the questionnaire that I do worst in any tips for giving them what they actually want?:)

For "upper band" in the practice tests anyway tend toward accepting personal responsibility in the scenarios with deferral to managers where appropriate. Doesn't give a raw score so "upper" could be >50 , >70, or barely scraping over the arbitrary marker, who knows. Will do the real one tomorrow probably.

WAW · 18-10-2018 9:28pm

engiweirdo wrote: »

Is there a separate set of tests for the Revenue AO competition and Local Government roles or is it a shared set of scores?

They are not the same - AO civil service and AO local government are different jobs. AO Local government is a section head, so you could be the AO for Roads, Environment, Housing etc. and have responsibility for budgets and staff, etc in that section. AO in lg are much better paid for starters, gets 30 days leave and it is a middle management role which requires years of management experience. It's not a graduate entry role. It is a Grade 7 - sometimes AOs are not general management and do specialised roles without being a section head, eg a Senior Researcher or Special Projects Manager, etc.

Local authorities recruit separately for an external/open AO panel. So much like civil service it's a detailed application form, competency-based questions, then shortlisting on basis of that, then call for competency based interview. There is no aptitude/psychometric testing.

Dalio · 18-10-2018 11:49pm

Tegan Spoiled Preschooler wrote: »

If you've completed the tests without loosing the will to live then you've done well

Calculator is important

:0

engiweirdo · 19-10-2018 11:38am

Wasnt too bad. Verbal was grand, got all complete. Numerical wasn't "hard" but the time allocated to solve problem, locate info and then compute numbers was pretty short, need to engage robot gear for that one. The Assessment, well who knows, they could be all wrong sure. Hope for the best anyway.

WAW · 19-10-2018 12:46pm

Can you do the three components separately i.e. questionnaire one day, verbal another and numerical another?

engiweirdo · 19-10-2018 12:48pm

WAW wrote: »

Can you do the three components separately i.e. questionnaire one day, verbal another and numerical another?

There's 2 separate links anyway for verbal+numerical and then the questionnaire is elsewhere. Wouldn't see why not, as long as completed within the timeframe.

Rikand · 19-10-2018 12:55pm

So no logical test like on the practice tests?

PhoenixParker · 19-10-2018 12:55pm

I did the numerical yesterday and will do the verbal and questionnaire at some point today.

Administrative Officers 2018 in the Civil Service

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