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Dave Keating - Killarney

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    #92
    golfguy1
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    ShivasIrons wrote: »
    Which clubs are they?


    It would seem in that the view of the council in Killarney is that Dave Keating was wrong, the GM was wrong, the pros that turned down the job were wrong. Have they considered that they are the ones that are wrong?

    Look them up online. Easy to find clubs they are/have managed.
    DK turned down a contract.
    what pros turned job down.
    GM was certainly partially to blame for the mismanagement.
    At least the new management firm have a proven track record.
    Suppose we will have to review this in 12-18 months time and see where the club is


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    billy3sheets
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    Article in the Cork Examiner about it yesterday https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/golf/killarney-golf-club-ink-new-strategic-partnership-deal-907064.html

    Synergy Golf are taking over operations at Killarney. They currently manage Grange Castle , Silloge Park and St. Margaret’s in Dublin.
    I know nothing of the Killarney situation but I know Synergy from St Margaret's and I believe they do a good job there. They run the course, the restaurant, the bar and the pro shop with their own staff. They have invested a lot in the course and the facilities and the general consensus from members is that it is vastly improved since they took over 3 years ago.
    They are however a business and therefore their job is to maximise their return on investment. So expect more societies, corporate days and less free time on timesheets.


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    golfguy1
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    billy3sheets wrote: »
    Article in the Cork Examiner about it yesterday https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/golf/killarney-golf-club-ink-new-strategic-partnership-deal-907064.html

    Synergy Golf are taking over operations at Killarney. They currently manage Grange Castle , Silloge Park and St. Margaret’s in Dublin.
    I know nothing of the Killarney situation but I know Synergy from St Margaret's and I believe they do a good job there. They run the course, the restaurant, the bar and the pro shop with their own staff. They have invested a lot in the course and the facilities and the general consensus from members is that it is vastly improved since they took over 3 years ago.
    They are however a business and therefore their job is to maximise their return on investment. So expect more societies, corporate days and less free time on timesheets.

    Isn't improving income to the club the very reason for getting a management company in.
    May still be cheaper than paying a GM and pro.
    With 45 holes no fear of lack of free tee times for the members anyway


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    #95
    billy3sheets
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    golfguy1 wrote: »
    Isn't improving income to the club the very reason for getting a management company in.
    May still be cheaper than paying a GM and pro.
    With 45 holes no fear of lack of free tee times for the members anyway

    Maybe one of the reasons. Depends on the club history, who owns it, current status, future ambitions, quality of golf expected, market, location etc
    I expect that outsourcing operations will become more the norm.


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    ShivasIrons
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    golfguy1 wrote: »
    Look them up online. Easy to find clubs they are/have managed.
    DK turned down a contract.
    what pros turned job down.
    GM was certainly partially to blame for the mismanagement.
    At least the new management firm have a proven track record.
    Suppose we will have to review this in 12-18 months time and see where the club is


    Are the new management firm managing the club as well as running the shop? The clubs they are running don't seem to be in the same market as Killarney, they also seem to be mainly focused on greenkeeping and management. Where's their track record in running a shop?


    You said earlier in the thread that a number of the top pros in the Irish Region applied for the job, did they not turn it down?


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    golfguy1
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    ShivasIrons wrote: »
    Are the new management firm managing the club as well as running the shop? The clubs they are running don't seem to be in the same market as Killarney, they also seem to be mainly focused on greenkeeping and management. Where's their track record in running a shop?


    You said earlier in the thread that a number of the top pros in the Irish Region applied for the job, did they not turn it down?

    St margeret pro shop.
    I believe they are over the sales and marketing at killarney. Don't know who is over the day to day.

    Don't know who was offered the job, so I don't know if lads turned it down.


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