Sherlock - A game of Werewolf!

Liam WW

Gabriel WW wrote: »

Why am I not on your FFA Liam.

Cozzzzzzzzzzz I'm going by Derry's post below?

Derry WW wrote: »

I floated the thought a few days ago that myself, Clodagh and Gert all FFA'd on the first day, AND voted in the top 2. I know I'm good, we can assume Clodagh is good, so my suspicions are on Gert by default there.

My read on Gabriel has been he's playing very similar to myself, and I've given him the benefit of the doubt as a result of that.

I've called out Nigel's fluffiness several times over the last few days too.

I don't have a read on any of....

Abigail WW
Conor WW
Holly WW
Isla WW
Liam WW
Steve WW

….which concerns me after a few days. Likely to be at least one, if not two, wolves in that batch.

Let me make it clear here, I think you're a wolf. But I'm parking my suspicions FOR THE GOOD OF THE VILLAGE. We gain nothing by me flying off doing my own thing at the moment. *cough*

Brendan WW

Orla WW wrote: »

Suspicions, thoughts? Anything to give us a hand? Even your top suspect is ok, you surely suspect one or two?

I think Isla is a low lying wolf. Keep flipping on Nigel and Liam as they seem to be trying to contribute but I don't know if it's just to look helpful (especially Nigel)

Gabriel WW

#ffa3

Holly - hollys are always evil. Nah joking holly has popped in and out today, having coasted by during d1 and d2. I don't believe she has take a strong position or looked to annoy anyone up until today, and was one of the second wave of backers for the wini plan. Neck never on the line, wolf protecting wolf numbers.

Liam - much the same as holly, a coaster. I dub thee fluffiest fluff on team fur for this game. No but really also a latecomer proponent of the wini plan. Supporting it and trying to smooth over the holes for her wolf buddy without having any skin in the game.

Steve - very little content d1 and d2 to analyse. I'll look at voting and ffa patterns (for all three) later. Bad villager or bad wolf. He is one of these imo.

Wini and Eva stay out for now until we can get any kind of further info on wini claim. Eva has raised a flag against me and keeps trying to bring the conversation back to me (and now conor) which is frustrating but doesn't really tell me anything beyond the fact she is tunnelling me.

Orla WW

Brendan WW wrote: »

I think Isla is a low lying wolf. Keep flipping on Nigel and Liam as they seem to be trying to contribute but I don't know if it's just to look helpful (especially Nigel)

Cool. Want me to take as your FFA?

Holly WW

Gabriel WW wrote: »

Anyone accusing me of trying to force a reveal or anything of that kind.....we need to have a plan as a village. I've been trying to organise us since d1. Again, throw mud at me, that's fine. I'm here to draw heat. But how about actually discussing how we proceed rather than building a case on gabe wants reveals now, when that plainly isn't the case (holly and eva).

I have made suggestions, one in a post in response to you. And I'm not building a case on how you want reveals now, but your coy hint that the priest coming out mighn't be a bad shout doesn't look like anything else.

Gabriel WW wrote: »

Here is an interesting question; has any of the info that has been volunteered been something we can cross check via priest? Is it not a little strange wini avoided any of the people who died?

You're not reading my posts and trying to play like a selfless NRV (I'll take the lynch, a real NRV would try to catch a wolf or atleast wait until an RV was in trouble), you're talking like myself and Eva are ganging up, making sure to name drop us so the names stick out more, not fully or only token responding to posts (Am I actually for real, the gold star is all you took from Eva's essays, I have posted twice where I think we should focus, and finally, misrepresentation (that myself and Eva are calling you evil because you're calling for reveals. Can't speak for Eva but that's only one thing for me)


So yeah in light of all this I think Gabs a wolf


Gab how does you offering yourself as a lynchee at 3.30 get discussion started on the lynch? How does it help the village at all?

Nigel WW

Liam WW wrote: »

To make it official, my #FFA3:

Abigail WW – didn’t like day 1 posts. Seemed forced. Talks a lot about the pills. Still a slight Wolf lean.

Holly WW – low poster. Going after Nigel for wolf. Unsure. No read.

Steve WW – Claims he was hospitalised yesterday but was coy about it. Not sure why? Maybe started the Doris train last night? Clashed with Orla last night about low vs high posters.

To be precise, it was actually Holly who started the Doris train, but Steve followed very quickly:

At 20:52

Holly WW wrote: »

Alright i havent had any WW time at all today, ill be voting Nigel in the lynch, got a funny vibe off him D0 and D1 and he popped in today with an FFA with little reasoning, following that up by collating other peoples FFA reasoning. Fishy as hell to me, talk about looking helpful.

#FFA2

Nigel - Above
Orla - Keeps banging on about high postcount, every time you post that it weakens your argument. Tunnelling the motherloving out of Eva whom to me has been a good poster today.
Doris - Weakest on here, stood out as fluffy yesterday and i only noted one post of hers with substance today.

At 20:56

Steve WW wrote: »

I agree with a viewpoint and therefore it's a pocket.

so basically your entire contribution lynch low voters and this "pocket".

that's what 230+ posts brings to the game is it?

weak.

switching from Doris to you as suspect number 1

FFA#2
Orla
Doris
Liam

Up until then, not a single person had Doris on their FFA which is why I was so surprised when she ended up lynched. Both are top of my sus list at the moment and I'll probably be voting for Steve again (I voted him yesterday).

Brendan WW

Orla WW wrote: »

Cool. Want me to take as your FFA?

You might as well as I won't get time later to post another one.

Gabriel WW

Liam WW wrote:

Let me make it clear here, I think you're a wolf. But I'm parking my suspicions FOR THE GOOD OF THE VILLAGE. We gain nothing by me flying off doing my own thing at the moment. *cough*

Ahahahahaha that's mental. You are mental.

'Lads I've found a wolf but it's ok whatever I'm not gonna try convince you or stuff. ' Liam WW, Sherlock werewolf.

Liam is trying not to draw heat on himself.

Abigail WW

Going through the people suggested to focus on now and will hopefully have an FFA up soon.

Gabriel WW

Holly WW wrote:

Gab how does you offering yourself as a lynchee at 3.30 get discussion started on the lynch? How does it help the village at all?

What a silly silly interpretation of what I said. How did you manage to ignore half of the post where i said If I draw lynch so be it, but let's not throw in the towel just yet?

Holly WW

Eva WW wrote: »

Oh wait Holly, you seriously used my own work to pawn off as your own, and when someone calls you on a point you look for me to pick up the pieces?

Read the thread for yourself. Others and not just me have recognised that this is turning into that such thing. Orla did, Abi did, people who have put in some of their own work can see what has happened.

You are after being caught out throwing shade at someone which you didn't verify in the first place, and at the same time you used such specific meta in the reasoning.

I know you are here and contributing where as Isla isn't, but I'm not getting a great vibe from you. If you are village, please do your own work and don't just pop in after an absense to paraphrase someone else's findings.

Jeez lousie, I didn't try to pawn your work off, I have you as a villager lean so was more likely to trust what you were saying on face value. I looked back at Derry's posts when he asked me and couldn't see where he was making it a Clodan v Wini thing so I asked you were you got it from. Hardly you picking up the pieces, I'm looking for an explanation to where I now see a contradiciton.

Holly WW

Nigel WW wrote: »

To be precise, it was actually Holly who started the Doris train, but Steve followed very quickly:

At 20:52



At 20:56


Up until then, not a single person had Doris on their FFA which is why I was so surprised when she ended up lynched. Both are top of my sus list at the moment and I'll probably be voting for Steve again (I voted him yesterday).

How did I start a Doris train by FFA'ing her? I even stated in the post I was voting for you, nothing to do with a train there bucko.

Gabriel WW

Holly is rolling out the jeez Louises and the buckos. Reaching for the big guns.

Gabriel WW

Eva that gold star was sincere btw.

Nigel WW

Holly WW wrote: »

How did I start a Doris train by FFA'ing her? I even stated in the post I was voting for you, nothing to do with a train there bucko.

Train was Liam's word, not mine. Just saying that you were the first to include her in the FFA, 8 minutes to lynch, and Steve was the second, 4 minutes to lynch, and then she got lynched.

Holly WW

Gabriel WW wrote: »

I'm not. I'm asking a question. Others have asked a similar question; how did wini pick her targets.

She managed to pick 3 targets who managed to avoid death, despite a pretty decent kill rate. How did she do it? And more, why has she literally uncovered NO VERIFYABLE INFORMATION.

Like I get you guys want to believe and we don't always get a 100% slam dunk every time but a lot of people are making some serious leaps of faith with nothing to go on....and that's seemingly ok?

By all means kill me if that's where this is going. But when priest sees me as nrv look to the people who swallowed winis story. Liam for one. Eva as another.

And then look within the Fab four. I'm sure one may be good, but I don't think they all are.

Gabriel WW wrote: »

Ok looking at that I'd say we may be at 10v4 at this stage. Assuming we got the sk and maybe one other wolf. 10v5 at worst.

Can probably afford the mislynch on me.

Let's start that discussion though, because it's almost 4. Who swings tonight? Because do we have any prime suspects?

Gabriel WW wrote: »

What a silly silly interpretation of what I said. How did you manage to ignore half of the post where i said If I draw lynch so be it, but let's not throw in the towel just yet?

You seem very happy to offer yourself up, its literally what you said. Asking who swings tonight doesn't cut trying to start a conversation or getting the ball rolling as far as I'm concerned before you use that defense, if I posted that you'd call it fluff.

Holly WW

Gabriel WW wrote: »

Holly is rolling out the jeez Louises and the buckos. Reaching for the big guns.

This isn't like me at all

Liam WW

Gabriel WW wrote: »

#ffa3

Liam - much the same as holly, a coaster. I dub thee fluffiest fluff on team fur for this game. No but really also a latecomer proponent of the wini plan. Supporting it and trying to smooth over the holes for her wolf buddy without having any skin in the game.

No argument about the first few days, RL had me by the nuts so I couldn't post. I'm here today and contributing and you're still up my ass about it. I just can't win with you can I?

Gabriel WW wrote: »

Ahahahahaha that's mental. You are mental.

'Lads I've found a wolf but it's ok whatever I'm not gonna try convince you or stuff. ' Liam WW, Sherlock werewolf.

Liam is trying not to draw heat on himself.

So you've picked an FFA from the list Derry posted but are calling me out for doing the exact same thing? You sir, are a hypocrite!

Gabriel WW

Holly WW wrote:

You seem very happy to offer yourself up, its literally what you said. Asking who swings tonight doesn't cut trying to start a conversation or getting the ball rolling as far as I'm concerned before you use that defense, if I posted that you'd call it fluff.

There is a third one you skipped, the original, in which I said I'm working towards not being lynched, but so be it if it happens.

Liam WW wrote:

No argument about the first few days, RL had me by the nuts so I couldn't post. I'm here today and contributing and you're still up my ass about it. I just can't win with you can I?

I assure you, if I ever get up in there, you will know.

Liam WW wrote:

So you've picked an FFA from the list Derry posted but are calling me out for doing the exact same thing? You sir, are a hypocrite!

Well I named you because I suspect you. You suspect me, why not name me?

I don't go off lists, I go off suspicions

Holly WW

Nigel WW wrote: »

Train was Liam's word, not mine. Just saying that you were the first to include her in the FFA, 8 minutes to lynch, and Steve was the second, 4 minutes to lynch, and then she got lynched.

He used it, and then you used it, hiding behind Liams use doesn't change it.


How does my FFA'ing her translate to me being a suspect in her lynch though? Where are the two that voted her despite not FFA'ing her, there you have two players who saw a name make 2 late FFA's and change their vote based off that.


Say I am evil, what is the grounding of this that makes it suspicious? I FFA her and two of my wolfy buddies CFD to lynch her? That's 3 of us committing to a silly play that really doesn't make much sense as the only payoff is a lynched Doris, who was under fire anyways.


I'm really not getting the link here

Eva WW

Gabriel WW wrote: »

And now Eva combating the other proponent of doubting wini.

You will be next to suffer her ire.

So throwing shade on me for giving an honest account of this morning to Conor who concedes to my 'ire'? What ire anyway? You seem to be the one dishing out the ire today.

Gabriel WW wrote: »

Anyone accusing me of trying to force a reveal or anything of that kind.....we need to have a plan as a village. I've been trying to organise us since d1. Again, throw mud at me, that's fine. I'm here to draw heat. But how about actually discussing how we proceed rather than building a case on gabe wants reveals now, when that plainly isn't the case (holly and eva).

Yeah I'm suspicious on that, and also you mentioned the jailer's info being useful, while at the same time covering your ass by saying "Of course I'm not telling him to come out." To try to dismiss peoples concerns about that is shady.

Conor WW wrote: »

Fair point. I was more saying how it read to me but yeah ok.

That's cool. For the record I welcome your measured objectivity and skepticism like Derry's. You can form whatever opinion you like on me obviously, and I can't clear Wini, but 3 of us today can sort of clear each other as a result of Wini's actions - Whether others believe it or not, I bet me, Riona and Orla are all having better feelings about each other since the reveal.

For me and Orla to be having a ceasefire in light of this says something for Wini. Not that she should be fully believed and absolved, but that if she's a wolf and is clearing 3 villagers with each other and putting an end to 2 of them eating each other alive, well then she's not a great wolf.

I'll be honest, there seems to be a strong village core potentially developing here with Brendan/Clodagh and Wini's Chosen Ones. Sure, it could be a ruse somewhere along the way, but what if it isn't? What if it is a large village core developing? Would that put the wolves in a very bad place? I think so. Would that cause some to act desperate or pop up today throwing shade at a few people? I think it would cause that, and it has.

Gabriel WW

Eva WW wrote:

So throwing shade on me for giving an honest account of this morning to Conor who concedes to my 'ire'? What ire anyway? You seem to be the one dishing out the ire today.

Literally nothing I can say will get through to you. Every thing is negative. I fear our relationship is beyond repair Eva.

Nigel WW

Holly WW wrote: »

He used it, and then you used it, hiding behind Liams use doesn't change it.


How does my FFA'ing her translate to me being a suspect in her lynch though? Where are the two that voted her despite not FFA'ing her, there you have two players who saw a name make 2 late FFA's and change their vote based off that.


Say I am evil, what is the grounding of this that makes it suspicious? I FFA her and two of my wolfy buddies CFD to lynch her? That's 3 of us committing to a silly play that really doesn't make much sense as the only payoff is a lynched Doris, who was under fire anyways.


I'm really not getting the link here

Hold your giddy nellies there miss Holly, I never said you started a CFD on Doris or accused you of anything. I merely corrected Liam who said Steve was the one who first brought up Doris. Personally, I'd be more sus of the timing of yours (and Steve's) FFAs than the actual names included in them.

Holly WW

Gabriel WW wrote: »

There is a third one you skipped, the original, in which I said I'm working towards not being lynched, but so be it if it happens.

I read back a few more posts and can't see any sign of this?

Orla WW

Eva WW wrote: »

For me and Orla to be having a ceasefire in light of this says something for Wini. Not that she should be fully believed and absolved, but that if she's a wolf and is clearing 3 villagers with each other and putting an end to 2 of them eating each other alive, well then she's not a great wolf.

I picture us like this - for now.





We shall see after tonight's lynch.

Derry WW

Liam WW wrote: »

Cozzzzzzzzzzz I'm going by Derry's post below?



Let me make it clear here, I think you're a wolf. But I'm parking my suspicions FOR THE GOOD OF THE VILLAGE. We gain nothing by me flying off doing my own thing at the moment. *cough*

Liam, if you think someone is a wolf, you've got to FFA them.

I'm suspicious of a lot of people, but at the moment, I wouldn't say "I think Winni or Riona are wolves". But if you're feeling strong enough to say you think Gabriel is a wolf, surely you FFA him as one of three people? Right?

Holly is landing herself on my FFA currently. One of Isla or Steve probably, since neither are contributing currently.

Nigel WW

Okay, my thoughts on the 10 from Liam's list:

Abi - slight village lean
Conor - moderately strong village lean, helped with the clues Day 0, sceptical on the Wini thing, healthy scepticism is no bad thing, I happen to lean the opposite, but that doesn’t make him wolf, just a mistaken villager (IMO)
Derry - strong village lean since Day 0 and the riddles, and it's hard to shake something embedded that early, so if I try to look more objectively at more recent activity I'd give him more of a slight village lean, healthy scepticism on the Wini situation.
Gabriel - had thought him village up to today but his aggression and lack of openness to the Wini situation being genuine has me worried. A little scepticism is no bad thing (see Conor, Derry), but his seems to go a bit beyond that like he’s gone down a tunnel and that’s a worry. Based on this a slight wolf lean now.
Gertrude - slight village lean
Holly - moderately strong wolf lean
Isla - too darn quiet for me to make a decent read on, so neutral to slight wolf lean
Liam – neutral to very slight wolf lean
Nigel - good as gold
Steve - moderate to strong wolf lean (I voted for him last night), the low-flying wolf, Jeff Hope at a guess.

So if we're doing an FFA, I'd probably be putting Gabriel, Holly and Steve in there atm, and vote for Steve tonight again.

Personally, if I had to choose between Clodgah/Brendan vs Wini and her merry men, I'd choose C/B, but I don't see it as an either/or situation. I have a strong lean on C/B being genuine and a moderately strong lean on Wini being genuine too. I think both are probably true.

TLDR: #FFA3: Gabriel, Holly, Steve

Holly WW

Nigel WW wrote: »

Hold your giddy nellies there miss Holly, I never said you started a CFD on Doris or accused you of anything. I merely corrected Liam who said Steve was the one who first brought up Doris. Personally, I'd be more sus of the timing of yours (and Steve's) FFAs than the actual names included in them.

I know, I'm just asking you to think about how the CFD on Doris implicates me, because as far as I can tell you're seeing my FFA and the fact that she got lynched and drawing a line between them. I can't think of any reason to draw that line, so I'm asking you why that should implicate me.



Saying that I started a train on Doris would imply to me that that's what you're saying but I must be misreading you.

Eva WW

Holly WW wrote: »

Jeez lousie, I didn't try to pawn your work off, I have you as a villager lean so was more likely to trust what you were saying on face value. I looked back at Derry's posts when he asked me and couldn't see where he was making it a Clodan v Wini thing so I asked you were you got it from. Hardly you picking up the pieces, I'm looking for an explanation to where I now see a contradiciton.

Apologies Holly, that was when you had barely made much contribution today. I didn't get a great vibe off that, but you are contributing a whole lot more since I saw that.

I will say though, it seems like you have a decision made on Gabriel, so don't maybe don't get boxed into that now that you've decided.

Since someone mentioned you started on Doris yesterday, since I opined today that we might have lynched a wolf in Doris, what was it that made you go for Doris?

This is just for my own recollection and interest btw, and not to put you under a spotlight.

Gabriel WW

Holly WW wrote:

I read back a few more posts and can't see any sign of this?

I'll go back and find it later. Kids require attention ahead of bedtime.