Apple Watch Series 4

DubDJ · 12-09-2018 7:59pm #1

So Apple officially released the Series 4 Watch. I'm planning on ordering the 44mm model this Friday. Looking forward to the upgrade from the S1. Anybody else picking one up on launch?

Full details of the S4 here: https://www.apple.com/ie/apple-watch-series-4/

Kagawa · 12-09-2018 8:25pm

I'll be doing the same I think, I have a gen 1 so it's about time for an update I think.

omb0wyn5ehpij9 · 12-09-2018 8:28pm

I got a Series 3 about 6 months ago. I really like the look of the Series 4. I think I’ll wait until Christmas and maybe pick it up then

DubDJ · 12-09-2018 8:32pm

One small thing I would of liked is a bump in storage. I like to store a good selection of music on the watch so I can switch around depending on my mood but find the storage a bit lacking. I get fed up listening to the same few playlists and forgot to change them usually.

Kagawa · 12-09-2018 8:43pm

One thing I have noticed is that they have removed a few of the straps from the selection, which is odd I think.

DubDJ · 12-09-2018 9:05pm

Kagawa wrote: »

One thing I have noticed is that they have removed a few of the straps from the selection, which is odd I think.

Could be clearing some so they can announce new colours to match the Xr colours.

Eire Go Brach · 12-09-2018 9:06pm

Yeh looking to buy my first apple watch. Price has put me off the 4 though. Apple care has gone up also for it.

Looking at the 3 now. How does it compare to the 4?

Eire Go Brach · 12-09-2018 9:10pm

DubDJ wrote: »

One small thing I would of liked is a bump in storage. I like to store a good selection of music on the watch so I can switch around depending on my mood but find the storage a bit lacking. I get fed up listening to the same few playlists and forgot to change them usually.

They have doubled the storage. just going through the specs now.
https://www.apple.com/ie/watch/compare/

DubDJ · 12-09-2018 9:10pm

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DubDJ · 12-09-2018 9:13pm

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

They have doubled the storage. just going through the specs now.
https://www.apple.com/ie/watch/compare/

That’s brilliant. Can’t believe they didn’t mention that on stage, seems like a very standard thing for them to push as an upgrade.

ted1 · 12-09-2018 9:23pm

What are the chances of getting the e sim version working here

dan786 · 12-09-2018 9:37pm

ted1 wrote: »

What are the chances of getting the e sim version working here

none. No network here supports it.

DubDJ · 12-09-2018 9:59pm

How long has Apple been shipping the 5w power brick with the Apple Watch? I spotted it listed on the product page earlier for the S4 but I know my series 1 didn’t come with a plug.

Brera · 12-09-2018 10:09pm

dan786 wrote: »

none. No network here supports it.

The e sim is now on the new IPhones and Vodafone are supporting it so fingers cross VF Ireland see the light and support it.

Marty Bird · 12-09-2018 10:12pm

DubDJ wrote: »

How long has Apple been shipping the 5w power brick with the Apple Watch? I spotted it listed on the product page earlier for the S4 but I know my series 1 didn’t come with a plug.

I had all the series I bought the first one in the states and I was sure that came with a US plug my S3 has one still in the box.

Gumbo · 12-09-2018 10:24pm

Brera wrote: »

The e sim is now on the new IPhones and Vodafone are supporting it so fingers cross VF Ireland see the light and support it.

No network in Ireland are currently even planning to implement this yet. This from a network engineer who will know in advance of it coming down the line. He told me before EE offered it and said not even the UK will have multiple carriers for some time (when EE launched).

arch_stanton · 12-09-2018 10:46pm

I'm still tempted to pick up an LTE model. I'd hope the keep the watch for at least 2-3 years so hopefully some network here would support it in that time.

IamMetaldave · 12-09-2018 10:49pm

Yep, I’m gonna upgrade my series 1 to this.

eeloe · 12-09-2018 11:00pm

100% am I getting one of these! Wanted the gold SS one, but when I saw the price...

Gonna go for a 44mm aluminium.

The health stuff is literally game changing, everyone should have one of these on their wrist, FDA approval as a medical device is a big deal, hopefully it won’t be too long before we get the ECG app.

TCP/IP · 12-09-2018 11:27pm

Why can’t we get the stainless steel model on the Irish store?
Or did I miss it.

DubDJ · 12-09-2018 11:52pm

TCP/IP wrote: »

Why can’t we get the stainless steel model on the Irish store?
Or did I miss it.

Somebody in the other thread said it was limited to the Cellular model and because that’s not available in Ireland we won’t get any version of stainless steel.

DubDJ · 12-09-2018 11:54pm

Marty Bird wrote: »

I had all the series I bought the first one in the states and I was sure that came with a US plug my S3 has one still in the box.

Pretty sure they didn’t all come with one, sure the box my series 1 comes in wouldn’t even fit the plug inside.

dan786 · 13-09-2018 12:02am

TCP/IP wrote: »

Why can’t we get the stainless steel model on the Irish store?
Or did I miss it.

Buy through Uk site but its 849£ for 44mm.

Spon Farmer · 13-09-2018 3:29am

Is there any chance the cellular option will be available in Ireland this year?

What is the cause of the delay? Do Three, Vodafone, etc. not have the technology here or is it that they and Apple cannot reach some kind of agreement?

Oafley Jones · 13-09-2018 7:02am

DubDJ wrote: »

Somebody in the other thread said it was

For the launch models I know Steel models and edition only came with a plug.

Doodah7 · 13-09-2018 7:08am

Spon Farmer wrote: »

Is there any chance the cellular option will be available in Ireland this year?

What is the cause of the delay? Do Three, Vodafone, etc. not have the technology here or is it that they and Apple cannot reach some kind of agreement?

This came up last year also. Main reason is demand. Simply not worth it for a carrier to invest in this for a few thousand customers. However if other manufacturers hop on the eSim bandwagon, and of course they will as they all slavishly copy Apple, then there may be a demand which would make setting up such a network a runner.

Eire Go Brach · 13-09-2018 7:34am

Will the ecg work here or is that limited to the GSM model?

eeloe · 13-09-2018 8:13am

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

Will the ecg work here or is that limited to the GSM model?

There's no mention of the ECG app being available on any other apple website than the US one.

I really hope it does become available here, it's literally a game changer.

I'm sure they'll need medical board approval in every region, that's why it's not being launched in every country.

It will be available here sooner rather than later.

Luckycharms_74 · 13-09-2018 8:17am

DubDJ wrote: »

So Apple officially released the Series 4 Watch. I'm planning on ordering the 44mm model this Friday. Looking forward to the upgrade from the S1. Anybody else picking one up on launch?

Full details of the S4 here: https://www.apple.com/ie/apple-watch-series-4/

I have a S1 also and have been meaning to upgrade it. I think S4 is a well worthwhile update now and I will definitely be getting one

Creamy Goodness · 13-09-2018 8:23am

Kagawa wrote: »

One thing I have noticed is that they have removed a few of the straps from the selection, which is odd I think.

Apple watch bands are seasonal, they come and go.

If you like one you should snap it up as there's a good chance it won't be around by the time spring comes around.

Oafley Jones · 13-09-2018 8:29am

eeloe wrote: »

There's no mention of the ECG app being available on any other apple website than the US one.

I really hope it does become available here, it's literally a game changer.

I'm sure they'll need medical board approval in every region, that's why it's not being launched in every country.

It will be available here sooner rather than later.

I don’t share your optimism. Getting medical device approval seems like something that could take forever.

eeloe · 13-09-2018 8:32am

The Irish Heart foundation should be all over this like a rash, the current waiting lists for tests and even ECG's themselves in hospitals are crazy, and the cost itself are also expensive.

If more people had one of these devices on their wrist, imagine the pressure it'd take off the system, and people could just email a monthly report over to their doctor....

Oafley Jones · 13-09-2018 8:42am

eeloe wrote: »

The Irish Heart foundation should be all over this like a rash, the current waiting lists for tests and even ECG's themselves in hospitals are crazy, and the cost itself are also expensive.

If more people had one of these devices on their wrist, imagine the pressure it'd take off the system, and people could just email a monthly report over to their doctor....

I think you're massively overstating the benefit of these and what they're used for. How does the watch alleviate any of that? If anything it'll contribute to more people coming in and demanding tests.

eeloe · 13-09-2018 8:45am

Oafley Jones wrote: »

I think you're massively overstating the benefit of these and what they're used for. How does the watch alleviate any of that? If anything it'll contribute to more people coming in and demanding tests.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what way it goes, but as someone who's genuinely interested in heart health, i'm excited.

Oafley Jones · 13-09-2018 8:49am

eeloe wrote: »

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what way it goes, but as someone who's genuinely interested in heart health, i'm excited.

I think it's great as well and has huge potential. Since the watch was announced I've argued health is the killer feature that Apple could eventually exploit.... but, you've to recognise the limitations of what the product offers. It's just like a blood pressure monitor you'd buy in Boots. It's convenient, it's a (hopefully good) guide, but it's not going to replace professional medical equipment and investigation.

DubDJ · 13-09-2018 8:53am

I’m not optimistic about the ECG feature hitting Ireland anytime soon. I wish Apple could of released it with an ‘uncertified’ label or something along the lines so we could use it either way.

The fact that eSim has been around a while, and Apple news also, both of which haven’t hit Ireland yet would be an indicator of how quickly we’ll get this. I was surprised at how quickly we got Apple Pay but with the Irish banks they’ll do anything to get people using their services more.

eeloe · 13-09-2018 8:54am

Oafley Jones wrote: »

I think it's great as well and has huge potential. Since the watch was announced I've argued health is the killer feature that Apple could eventually exploit.... but, you've to recognise the limitations of what the product offers. It's just like a blood pressure monitor you'd buy in Boots. It's convenient, it's a (hopefully good) guide, but it's not going to replace professional medical equipment and investigation.

Oh for sure, nothing will beat a proper ECG, but if it's been FDA approved it must be pretty damn close.

Oafley Jones · 13-09-2018 8:56am

eeloe wrote: »

Oh for sure, nothing will beat a proper ECG, but if it's been FDA approved it must be pretty damn close.

So will that blood pressure monitor. That doesn't stop a doctor wondering has gob****e being wearing it around his knob. There's different classifications a well. It's not a blanket certification.

Deep Thought · 13-09-2018 9:36am

gonna get the 44mm..need to sell my Series 2 first...SWMBO rule..one in , one out

eeloe · 13-09-2018 9:47am

Deep Thought wrote: »

gonna get the 44mm..need to sell my Series 2 first...SWMBO rule..one in , one out

Should still get decent money for your s2 if it's in good condition.

Deep Thought · 13-09-2018 10:17am

its great,....doubt i 'll have a probelm

Doodah7 · 13-09-2018 11:09am

I will be another person getting rid of my Series 1 for the Series 4. I was originally going to upgrade to the Series 3 but I think it is a bit of a false economy to do so. Series 4 seems so much better than 3 and will be future proofed in terms of design for a few more years.

DubDJ · 13-09-2018 11:18am

Was having a look though the compare list of details
https://www.apple.com/ie/watch/compare/

Few differences that stood out
Slightly different version of OLED screen whatever that means
Bluetooth 5 instead of 4.2 so hopefully that means better connectivity with the X.
As another poster mentioned it has double the storage now at 16GB
Also, it now includes the USB power brick where the series 3 doesn’t.

At €339 vs €469 I think it’s worth the extra for the Series 4.

Vudgie · 13-09-2018 11:25am

I have the 2nd gen apple watch in stainless steel....while I like the idea of changing to the Series 4 as someone else said it seems like a backward step to get the less premium aluminium watch that is available here.

Pretty expensive to get the cellular stainless steel option in the UK particularly when the cellular element isn't usable here.

Decisions, Decisions

Deep Thought · 13-09-2018 12:26pm

eeloe wrote: »

Oh for sure, nothing will beat a proper ECG, but if it's been FDA approved it must be pretty damn close.

the amount of testing to have it FDA approved as a Medical Device is huge, particularly so if the GP is going to review the data and make a life critical decision based on that data.

But the FDA only certify for devices to be used in the US.

In Ireland the HPRA will need to certify it for use. There is a few agreements coming down the line where the HPRA will accept the FDA decisions.

Marty Bird · 13-09-2018 2:16pm

DubDJ wrote: »

Was having a look though the compare list of details
https://www.apple.com/ie/watch/compare/

Few differences that stood out
Slightly different version of OLED screen whatever that means
Bluetooth 5 instead of 4.2 so hopefully that means better connectivity with the X.
As another poster mentioned it has double the storage now at 16GB
Also, it now includes the USB power brick where the series 3 doesn’t.

At €339 vs €469 I think it’s worth the extra for the Series 4.

The series 3 I have included a power brick Nike Apple Watch series 3.

DubDJ · 13-09-2018 2:26pm

Marty Bird wrote: »

The series 3 I have included a power brick Nike Apple Watch series 3.

Weird, the website lists the s3 as having no plug. Maybe the Nike version does or maybe they just removed it to make the s3 cheaper.

Marty Bird · 13-09-2018 2:37pm

DubDJ wrote: »

Weird, the website lists the s3 as having no plug. Maybe the Nike version does or maybe they just removed it to make the s3 cheaper.

Strange alright I definitely got one with S2 Nike too the S1 was from the states and I’m nearly sure I got a US brick.

blink44 · 13-09-2018 3:48pm

Vudgie wrote: »

I have the 2nd gen apple watch in stainless steel....while I like the idea of changing to the Series 4 as someone else said it seems like a backward step to get the less premium aluminium watch that is available here.

Pretty expensive to get the cellular stainless steel option in the UK particularly when the cellular element isn't usable here.

Decisions, Decisions

This is exactly me, only I’m upgrading from 1st gen. it’s so hard to justify to myself spending double on the stainless steel but today I tried on my friends black sport series 3 and while it’s a nice looking watch I just didn’t feel happy with it on my wrist. I’m thinking il bite the bullet and go stainless steel from the U.K.

Does anyone know are we on the same network bands as the U.K.? In that should any network support it in the future I’m ready to go?

Eire Go Brach · 13-09-2018 9:08pm

I have never got Apple Care before. But it seems worth it for the watch? What are your opinions on this?

IamMetaldave · 13-09-2018 10:17pm

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

I have never got Apple Care before. But it seems worth it for the watch? What are your opinions on this?

The closest I ever came to buying Apple care was for my X, it never crossed my mind for my watch. My watch has taken a proper beating too (banging off stuff mountain biking) and it’s still fine, few minor scratches but nothing that has caused a need for repairs.

Apple Watch Series 4

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