Customer toilets

poisonated

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

rent out the toilets to whom? - the council?

Anyone who rants to rent them. Capitalism at its finest.

jaxxx

jaxxx wrote: »

Speaking of customer/public toilets... TOILET PAPER THAT DOESN'T FEEL AS COURSE AS SAND PAPER PLEASE!!!

I have a sensitive bum

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Andy From Sligo

I dont travel much but notable toilets in Sligo town - Insomnia cafe's (both places) have impeccable toilets , always clean and fresh smelling and well equipped puts all the other to shame - oh but Glasshouse hotel toilets are good too. Apparently (because there are no official public toilets anywhere in Sligo town centre) unnofically the Glasshouse hotel toilets are the 'unnoficial public' toilets so someone informed me'

fatknacker

Yes to more public toilets, everywhere. Sick of having to ask can I use a toilet, like a ****ing child. And I'm sure owners of private establishments are sick of having to provide them because there's no alternatives.

It's about time we had some decent toilet facilities like any other grown up country. We're still stuck in the Middle Ages being told to piss in a river.

Fk the junkies. Hire people to check them and clean them regularly. More jobs. Charge 20c or whatever a go.
It works in kilkenny.

fatknacker

poisonated wrote: »

In Amsterdam, as far as I know, restaurants rent out their toilets and charge 50 cent a go. Perhaps they could do that here.

Actually that's not a bad idea. I'd happily donate if it means I can walk in off the street and not have to ask and risk being told "for customers only"

freshpopcorn

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

normal shop opening hours?

I get where your coming from but I don't know how foncoally viable it would be in smaller towns.

Andy From Sligo

fatknacker wrote: »

Yes to more public toilets, everywhere. Sick of having to ask can I use a toilet, like a ****ing child. And I'm sure owners of private establishments are sick of having to provide them because there's no alternatives.

It's about time we had some decent toilet facilities like any other grown up country. We're still stuck in the Middle Ages being told to piss in a river.

Fk the junkies. Hire people to check them and clean them regularly. More jobs. Charge 20c or whatever a go.
It works in kilkenny.

thou talketh sense

sligojoek

poisonated wrote: »

In Amsterdam, as far as I know, restaurants rent out their toilets and charge 50 cent a go. Perhaps they could do that here.

Do you get a free cuppa coffee on the way out?

Andy, I'm sure you're familiar with Connolly's pub in Sligo. They've cut down big time on people getting off buses from the bay across the road. They were coming in in droves and leaving a mess behind them. Not to mention flushing gallons of metered water down the drain. The staff had to go in after and tidy up while customers waited for drink at the counter on busy sunday evenings as the students were arriving back in town.

Andy From Sligo

fatknacker wrote: »

Actually that's not a bad idea. I'd happily donate if it means I can walk in off the street and not have to ask and risk being told "for customers only"

God thats happened to me at a few places. You feel like a criminal for asking! - and no-one likes refusal. Its like I was in a place once and i said "can I use your toilet please" and was told "sorry we only have staff toilets" and I said its only a pee I want" - and they are like "Im sorry the customers cannot use the staff toilets .... its to do with company policy and insurance"

Andy From Sligo

Never forget I went into a well known eating establishment once (arches) and i had just gone in and headed for toilets to really just wash my hands before I started eating in there .. well and have a pee too - but anyway this snotty member of staff nearly blocked my path "these toilets are for customers only!" .. "i know I said I am going to eat in here after I have washed my hands" .. came out of toilets and his eyes followed me all the way to the till to make sure I ordered something" - jeez!

Mrs OBumble

People who work in shops didn't sign up to be toilet cleaners.

Fair enough in really big shops that have specialist cleaners, who have the training and PPE to deal with the type of mess that Jo and Josie Soap leave.

And fair enough in pubs/restaurants, 'cos they're selling stuff that makes you go, for on-premise use.

But anywhere else ... nah, not fair on the shop-workers. It should be the council's job to provide 'em, it's what businesses pay rates for.


But while we're having a bog-rant: forget with the three different sorts and three different queues. Just have one block with two wheelchair-accessible (*) cubicles and free to be used by anyone. One queue.



(*)"disabled toilet" is a contradiction in terms - the loo needs to be fully functional!

freshpopcorn

I've actually cleaned toilet before in hotels/lobbies/etc.
The training consists of this is a brush and toilet cleaner and a cloth for cleaning and some kind of polish/cleaner.
The most annoying thing you'd encounter was make up on surfaces!

Del2005

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I've actually cleaned toilet before in hotels/lobbies/etc.
The training consists of this is a brush and toilet cleaner and a cloth for cleaning and some kind of polish/cleaner.
The most annoying thing you'd encounter was make up on surfaces!

That's not training that's dangerous. In my company the cleaners won't touch anything outside of the bowl that's solid, they call in reinforcements in full PPE to clean and sterilise the place.

Berserker

Not sure if it'd make much of a difference for some. Was in Liffey Valley yesterday morning at 11am and Dad had his young fella going to be bathroom at the back of their 181 CE Kia jeep. The centre was no more than 100 metres away and there is a toilet right inside the door.

KERSPLAT!

Berserker wrote: »

Not sure if it'd make much of a difference for some. Was in Liffey Valley yesterday morning at 11am and Dad had his young fella going to be bathroom at the back of their 181 CE Kia jeep. The centre was no more than 100 metres away and there is a toilet right inside the door.

In fairness, a 100m to a toddler/small child can be too far. My toddler had to go behind a bus stop a few weeks ago, it was that or destroy himself

Graces7

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

In fairness, a 100m to a toddler/small child can be too far. My toddler had to go behind a bus stop a few weeks ago, it was that or destroy himself

Trees and bushes are great too..

igCorcaigh

I'd be happy if they started with the intercity buses. I travel 4h20m twice a week, and there is never a toilet.

Berserker

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

In fairness, a 100m to a toddler/small child can be too far. My toddler had to go behind a bus stop a few weeks ago, it was that or destroy himself

I can understand for a small child but this young fella was of a school going age.

freshpopcorn

Berserker wrote: »

I can understand for a small child but this young fella was of a school going age.

Was there any other kids in the car?

Andy From Sligo

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I'd be happy if they started with the intercity buses. I travel 4h20m twice a week, and there is never a toilet.

thats always been a bugbear of mine. In this day and age as well. - if I knew I had to go on a bus journey without a toilet on it even the thought of it would make me anxious and want to use the toilet - I know they would have breaks and 'toilet stops' but with some people (medical problems/old/whatever) simply cannot be told or have the willpower to wait for ages to go to the toilet. With some , when you need to go you need top go.

Long story but I was sent by my GP once to a CBT specialist because of my waterworks. and she went through the ol' "when your asleep you dont need to use the toilet so why do you need to use it a lot when your awake?" - and "sometimes thought of going to a place or a town with no toilet prompts a lot of people to worry about going to the toilet should they need to and if there is not toilet your brain sends signal to your bladder and makes you want to go more"
well apart from all that , it turned out in the end that it was my Blood Pressure tablets were causing me to go more than I need to -

but yeah going through that I really now sympathise if someone goes out of their home who is on medication like that or water tablets and go to a toilet when out and have to queue for the toilet or there is no toilet at all , or if they ask in a shop and the shop owner wont let them use their staff toilet. - with some I have heard of it making people stay at home and not want to go out (and that causes other problems in itself) rather stay at home because at least they will be near a toilet rather than thinking they could go out somewhere and get caught short!

Andy From Sligo

Wife shopped in Sligo Tesco today - they have ripped out the (normally smelly/filthy) 1men / 1 women/ no disabled toilet and made it into a nice new shiny 1 large toilet with a disabled bowl and disabled equipment in there and a baby changing table . - there was a queue there though queuing up to use it - well its not rocket science if there is only 1 toilet where there used to be 2 seperate mens and ladies and someone is in there doing a big dump / or changing a baby then no-one else can use the bogs!
also to note there is a Café in the same arcade as the tesco store which dont have toilet facilities for customers (how do they get away with trading like that, having a eat in cafe with no customer toilets) so that when someone goes up to the till to ask where the toilets are the staff say "we have no public toilet sorry, you can use the Tesco one across the way there" - number 1 its tesco's toilet, number 2 now its only gone down to 1 toilet and there are now queues because so many people need to use it - number 3 its not a dedicated cafe's toilet .. as I say i dont know how they get away with operating like that.

here's the Sligo Tesco toilet now anyway - nice and clean and shiny (for the present) and a lot nicer than the previous toilets in there:

Berserker

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Was there any other kids in the car?

Nope, the wife was at the other side of the jeep and that was it.

I should be working, and instead I’m looking at the Tesco toilets in Sligo.

Graces7

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

thats always been a bugbear of mine. In this day and age as well. - if I knew I had to go on a bus journey without a toilet on it even the thought of it would make me anxious and want to use the toilet - I know they would have breaks and 'toilet stops' but with some people (medical problems/old/whatever) simply cannot be told or have the willpower to wait for ages to go to the toilet. With some , when you need to go you need top go.

Long story but I was sent by my GP once to a CBT specialist because of my waterworks. and she went through the ol' "when your asleep you dont need to use the toilet so why do you need to use it a lot when your awake?" - and "sometimes thought of going to a place or a town with no toilet prompts a lot of people to worry about going to the toilet should they need to and if there is not toilet your brain sends signal to your bladder and makes you want to go more"
well apart from all that , it turned out in the end that it was my Blood Pressure tablets were causing me to go more than I need to -

but yeah going through that I really now sympathise if someone goes out of their home who is on medication like that or water tablets and go to a toilet when out and have to queue for the toilet or there is no toilet at all , or if they ask in a shop and the shop owner wont let them use their staff toilet. - with some I have heard of it making people stay at home and not want to go out (and that causes other problems in itself) rather stay at home because at least they will be near a toilet rather than thinking they could go out somewhere and get caught short!

I always know where all the toilets are when I am out and also cut down on liquids that morning; old age and urgency. I would not let this stop my rare outings. Rather wear a nappy than that!

LIDL always let me use their staff toilet if I ask. As do other shops.

Andy From Sligo

Graces7 wrote: »

I always know where all the toilets are when I am out and also cut down on liquids that morning; old age and urgency. I would not let this stop my rare outings. Rather wear a nappy than that!

LIDL always let me use their staff toilet if I ask. As do other shops.

depends who you get/what their mood is like/do they follow the rule book/what kind of day they are having.

Still needs to be more public toilets that there is in areas so you dont even have to risk asking to use staff toilets and getting a "NO" as an answer

to be honest if I worked in a place that have staff toilet's would I like Joe public coming in and using it even as a one off emergency? - no, I don't think so to be honest

Graces7

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

depends who you get/what their mood is like/do they follow the rule book/what kind of day they are having.

Still needs to be more public toilets that there is in areas so you dont even have to risk asking to use staff toilets and getting a "NO" as an answer

to be honest if I worked in a place that have staff toilet's would I like Joe public coming in and using it even as a one off emergency? - no, I don't think so to be honest

Well, I am old and visibly disabled and greatly value the kindness shown. I rely on it as little as possible by mapping out where I am going etc .

Bitches Be Trypsin

I've worked in Penneys and they really don't allow customers to use the staff toilets. And we had no customer toilets.

Andy From Sligo

council's and the like are not going to be pressurised into going back supplying public toilets for visitors to towns if establishments make available their toilets to all and sundry - and i think thats where the problem lies.

I would say ideally - councils supply a toilet block in car parks in the town or in a central location to the shops - men's with urinals and 2 bowls, ladies with 2 or 3 bowls, and a disabled toilet (or 2) in the block (with baby changing table/facilities) paid for by rates they are robbing taking of businesses in the town - manned(woman'ed) for the full time by cleaner paid by the council (or 3rd party cleaning company, paid for by the council.

then if people want to go into cafe/restaurant/pub etc not as a customer but just use their toilets as a public toilet the establishment can point people to the public toilets and then keep their toilets just for customers.

AndrewJRenko

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

council's and the like are not going to be pressurised into going back supplying public toilets for visitors to towns if establishments make available their toilets to all and sundry - and i think thats where the problem lies.

I would say ideally - councils supply a toilet block in car parks in the town or in a central location to the shops

A better option might be for the Council to pay one or two retailers to make their loos available to the public. Some of the UK councils already do this. The toilet is already there, and has to be maintained anyway, so it's not going to be a huge amount of extra work. It might even bring in some extra customers.

Little point in building public toilets, with all the maintenance and security issues that go with that.

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

here's the Sligo Tesco toilet now anyway - nice and clean and shiny (for the present) and a lot nicer than the previous toilets in there:

Nice and shiny indeed, I just hate to see the sanitary bin, or anything else blocking the space where the wheelchair user needs to reverse in to transfer over onto the pan.

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

thats always been a bugbear of mine. In this day and age as well. - if I knew I had to go on a bus journey without a toilet on it even the thought of it would make me anxious and want to use the toilet - I know they would have breaks and 'toilet stops' but with some people (medical problems/old/whatever) simply cannot be told or have the willpower to wait for ages to go to the toilet. With some , when you need to go you need top go.

Long story but I was sent by my GP once to a CBT specialist because of my waterworks. and she went through the ol' "when your asleep you dont need to use the toilet so why do you need to use it a lot when your awake?" - and "sometimes thought of going to a place or a town with no toilet prompts a lot of people to worry about going to the toilet should they need to and if there is not toilet your brain sends signal to your bladder and makes you want to go more"
well apart from all that , it turned out in the end that it was my Blood Pressure tablets were causing me to go more than I need to -

but yeah going through that I really now sympathise if someone goes out of their home who is on medication like that or water tablets and go to a toilet when out and have to queue for the toilet or there is no toilet at all , or if they ask in a shop and the shop owner wont let them use their staff toilet. - with some I have heard of it making people stay at home and not want to go out (and that causes other problems in itself) rather stay at home because at least they will be near a toilet rather than thinking they could go out somewhere and get caught short!

I have some similar issues, and have had a few close calls rushing home, or rushing to the nearest pub or shop. Coach travel is a big worry, though some of them do have the on-board loo now.

Graces7

"I have some similar issues, and have had a few close calls rushing home, or rushing to the nearest pub or shop. Coach travel is a big worry, though some of them do have the on-board loo now.[/QUOTE]

The mother of one friend assures me she never leaves home without a 2 lb jam jar..;)