Bringing Children To Games

Miley Byrne

ProudDUB wrote: »

A plane is a 2 ton metal tub, filled with explosive fuel and flown 30,000 up in the air, yet I don't see anyone telling people that it is unsafe to take their kids on a plane. It is a ridiculous suggestion, as it telling someone she should not go to Croke Park and stay at home and mind her child. Such attitudes belong in the stone age.

82,500 people in one stadium with many of them after a load of drink could be hazardous too to be fair.

If she wants to go that badly, buy 2 tickets. Simples.

Dannyriver

yabadabado wrote: »

Do you have to show the kids ID or bring the birth cert ?

But my 4 year old is tiny.I want them to come in for free.
It's a disgrace Joe, they letting in 3 year olds who are twice the size of my kid.

Yes set up a system where to do this is easy.

yabadabado

Dannyriver wrote: »

Yes set up a system where to do this is easy.

There is already a system.

Buy a ticket for anyone who wants to enter the ground.
No ticket ,no entry.Simple.

cms88

Dannyriver wrote: »

We don t keep hearing parents complain its just that parents that don t complain tend not to be news worthy the same as peaceful law abiding people teenagers/immigrants/Muslims/travelers, whoever, are not news worthy so we don't hear about them either. Because its in the news doesn't make it an epidemic.

As for the second part she has bought her ticket her child is not requiring a seat as he/she will be stuck on to her. The GAA are asinine to not recognize this. The cost to come down from Tyrone etc is pricey enough without the added expence.

Yes we do. By your tone you're more than likely a parent so that's why you claim it's not happening.

Why should she be above the rules? It's not just this every year there are parents who show up to matches with kids and go on a rant when they have to pay for them? So again why do they think they're entitled to do this?

Miley Byrne

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

I think people are making the point that if it's a health and safety issue they should come out and say no babies allowed as it's too crowded or whatever.

If it isn't a health and safety issue, and babies are welcome, then there is no logic in having someone pay for a seat that won't be used.

The stadium capacity is 85,500 give or take a couple of hundred OK? Now theoretically if 20,000 new mothers all brought their newborns to the match then there would be 105,500 inside the ground. God forbid anything were to happen, but accidents do happen. Who do you think would bear the brunt of it if worst come to the worst and there were fatalities? The GAA, that's who. Now I'm not their greatest fan by any means but jesus this poor mother needs to get a grip for Christ's sake. It's a bloody football match after all. You'd swear she was after being denied access to Noah's Ark with the way people are going on about it.

*unlikely 20,000 newborns would be brought anyway but you get where I'm coming from surely?

Bunny Colvin

Bash The GAA all you want but let's get real, anyone bringing a sixteen week old baby to an event like an AI final needs their head checked.

Dannyriver

cms88 wrote: »

Yes we do. By your tone you're more than likely a parent so that's why you claim it's not happening.

Why should she be above the rules? It's not just this every year there are parents who show up to matches with kids and go on a rant when they have to pay for them? So again why do they think they're entitled to do this?

Who s saying she is above the rules...the argument is whether the rule is fair. Everyone is entitled to complain same as you are doing about her.

Dannyriver

Miley Byrne wrote: »

The stadium capacity is 85,500 give or take a couple of hundred OK? Now theoretically if 20,000 new mothers all brought their newborns to the match then there would be 105,500 inside the ground. God forbid anything were to happen, but accidents do happen. Who do you think would bear the brunt of it if worst come to the worst and there were fatalities? The GAA, that's who. Now I'm not their greatest fan by any means but jesus this poor mother needs to get a grip for Christ's sake. It's a bloody football match after all. You'd swear she was after being denied access to Noah's Ark with the way people are going on about it.

*unlikely 20,000 newborns would be brought anyway but you get where I'm coming from surely?

No because you ve set up an unrealistic scenario and asked us to treat it as real.

Dannyriver

TomsOnTheRoof wrote: »

Touching as that sentiment is there are hundreds of instances in every day life where the presence of young children is restricted due to health and safety concerns. Parents do not always know best, as is illustrated constantly nowadays.

And it makes perfect sense to pay for a ticket. If the parent is foolhardy enough to bring the child to the game at least there will be some elbow room. That way the child is afforded some modicum of protection and other supporters won't have to concern themselves with knocking against them every time there's a bit of excitement.

80 bucks for elbow room?

Browney7

Realistically, Irish people would chance the thing if there was a rule in place at a certain age. If it was 2 you'd have people chancing 4 year olds and then when the steward says no and is confronted with a crying four year old with mom and dad at the gates of croke park it would be all over papers and Joe Duffy.

Dannyriver

Browney7 wrote: »

Realistically, Irish people would chance the thing if there was a rule in place at a certain age. If it was 2 you'd have people chancing 4 year olds and then when the steward says no and is confronted with a crying four year old with mom and dad at the gates of croke park it would be all over papers and Joe Duffy.

Decisions shouldn t be dictated by the minority who want to abuse the system no?

Keano

Browney7 wrote: »

Realistically, Irish people would chance the thing if there was a rule in place at a certain age. If it was 2 you'd have people chancing 4 year olds and then when the steward says no and is confronted with a crying four year old with mom and dad at the gates of croke park it would be all over papers and Joe Duffy.

Chance away but you will not have anywhere to place that 4 year old when they get very heavy after a few minutes.

bruschi

this isnt about womens rights or caveman crap that people are quick to start throwing around. Let the father stay at home so the mother can go if needs be. its a parent issue, not a woman issue.

there are a few things too that need to be considered. This is not like being on a plane. On a plane you have bassinets for a baby to sleep in and you have overhead storage space. You also have aisles to easily get up and walk around in. And you are not obstructing other peoples views of events in front of you. Completely different situations and not at all comparable, other than the purchase of the seat for age groups.

Bringing an infant to a league or early round championship game is also not the same. Its rarely if ever a sell out so moving around the ground or seating areas, not being around people and having space is much easier. This is an all Ireland final. There wont be a spare seat anywhere.

Anyone who is a parent knows how much stuff you end up bringing out with an infant. Bottles, food, clothes, nappies, cloths, wipes, nappy bags. Its a whole bag of stuff in itself. So no seat for the child, you are holding it on your lap. As decent as the seats are in Croke Park, there is damn all space there. you wouldnt get to move anything. If it was me, and if I was adamant I was bringing my infant, I'd actually prefer to know I had a spare seat beside me just tot leave the bag on it so I could get stuff out of it and have elbow room to hold the child. It is in the childs best interests to have a seat there for it, it gives the parent and child more room in an already confined space.

I love kids, I love seeing kids at matches. But the last thing I'd want on AI final day is to be beside a new born baby. You'd be mindful of not being overly loud. Not moving much or jumping up at scores or whatever. It would be no way at all enjoyable. And as a parent, I couldnt think of anything worse on AI final day of being stuck in such confines in a row of seats with no easy way in or out other than getting everyone to move for you carrying a child and a bag full of infant stuff. You wouldnt get any enjoyment at all watching the game.

and above all, no one is forcing her to go. it's down for the rules at the moment that a ticket is needed. either go or dont.

cms88

Dannyriver wrote: »

Who s saying she is above the rules...the argument is whether the rule is fair. Everyone is entitled to complain same as you are doing about her.

Who says its not fair? Again a problem with the modern world. Oh that's not fair on me so ill go sulk about it

cms88

Keano wrote: »

Chance away but you will not have anywhere to place that 4 year old when they get very heavy after a few minutes.

That's the parents problem not anyone elses

Dannyriver

cms88 wrote: »

Who says its not fair? Again a problem with the modern world. Oh that's not fair on me so ill go sulk about it

She says it's not fair , she s not sulking she s complaining. Why do you think she s sulking or do you conflate both words?

Dannyriver

bruschi wrote: »

this isnt about womens rights or caveman crap that people are quick to start throwing around. Let the father stay at home so the mother can go if needs be. its a parent issue, not a woman issue.

there are a few things too that need to be considered. This is not like being on a plane. On a plane you have bassinets for a baby to sleep in and you have overhead storage space. You also have aisles to easily get up and walk around in. And you are not obstructing other peoples views of events in front of you. Completely different situations and not at all comparable, other than the purchase of the seat for age groups.

Bringing an infant to a league or early round championship game is also not the same. Its rarely if ever a sell out so moving around the ground or seating areas, not being around people and having space is much easier. This is an all Ireland final. There wont be a spare seat anywhere.

Anyone who is a parent knows how much stuff you end up bringing out with an infant. Bottles, food, clothes, nappies, cloths, wipes, nappy bags. Its a whole bag of stuff in itself. So no seat for the child, you are holding it on your lap. As decent as the seats are in Croke Park, there is damn all space there. you wouldnt get to move anything. If it was me, and if I was adamant I was bringing my infant, I'd actually prefer to know I had a spare seat beside me just tot leave the bag on it so I could get stuff out of it and have elbow room to hold the child. It is in the childs best interests to have a seat there for it, it gives the parent and child more room in an already confined space.

I love kids, I love seeing kids at matches. But the last thing I'd want on AI final day is to be beside a new born baby. You'd be mindful of not being overly loud. Not moving much or jumping up at scores or whatever. It would be no way at all enjoyable. And as a parent, I couldnt think of anything worse on AI final day of being stuck in such confines in a row of seats with no easy way in or out other than getting everyone to move for you carrying a child and a bag full of infant stuff. You wouldnt get any enjoyment at all watching the game.

and above all, no one is forcing her to go. it's down for the rules at the moment that a ticket is needed. either go or dont.

She s making a point that she doesn t believe the rule to be fair though, I'm sure she s aware of the either go or don't option already.

cms88

Dannyriver wrote: »

She says it's not fair , she s not sulking she s complaining. Why do you think she s sulking or do you conflate both words?

So one person doesn't think its fair and they think it should be changed to suit them? Of cousre she's sulking, she's not getting her way

yabadabado

Keano wrote: »

Chance away but you will not have anywhere to place that 4 year old when they get very heavy after a few minutes.

And what will happen ?
The kid/parent aren't likely to leave so it ends up there isnt room for everyone in that particular section.
H&S issue straight away.

yabadabado

Dannyriver wrote: »

She s making a point that she doesn t believe the rule to be fair though, I'm sure she s aware of the either go or don't option already.

She doesn't believe it's fair ,that her issue. GAA think it is so thats the end of it.

Some hero will most likely offer them a free ticket and all will be good in the world again.

Bunny Colvin

yabadabado wrote: »

She doesn't believe it's fair ,that her issue. GAA think it is so thats the end of it.

Some hero will most likely offer them a free ticket and all will be good in the world again.

Imagine searching the length and breadth of the country for a ticket, only to find out one was given to a toddler

Stoner

Said it before

Those guys bringing babies to games, strapped to their bellies facing out with big ear muffs on the child are there to get on the TV cameras .

I can see no other reason, the child could easily be injured, it's not the right environment IMO, it's just using a baby for self promotion.

And in general those baby strap things on men look stupid. My wife tried to get me to use one with more success

I've said it off you all go.

ProudDUB

cms88 wrote: »

It's not really. We keep hearing parents complain and moan about how everyone is out to get them airlines, hotels etc This is just another example of it.

If she wants to bring her child that's fine, but she has to pay. It's pretty simple she has a child so she thinks she's entitled to be able to bring it in for free. Why is that?

Because the child is 4 months old and will spend the game strapped to her body. He does not require his own seat. Why should she buy a ticket for a seat for a child, when he does not need need one and has zero ability to actually sit in it?

Most one year olds are perfectly capable of sitting in a seat by the age of one, yet airlines still allow kids to go free up to the age of 2, as do the Aviva stadium. It boggles the mind that anyone would have a problem with a similar system being in place in Croke Park.

Dannyriver

cms88 wrote: »

So one person doesn't think its fair and they think it should be changed to suit them? Of cousre she's sulking, she's not getting her way

Are you sulking now or just complaining about her? How does it work?

Dannyriver

yabadabado wrote: »

She doesn't believe it's fair ,that her issue. GAA think it is so thats the end of it.

Some hero will most likely offer them a free ticket and all will be good in the world again.

So no one should express an opinion and we should all shut up and put up yeah, like in the good old days?

splinter65

Stoner wrote: »

Said it before

Those guys bringing babies to games, strapped to their bellies facing out with big ear muffs the child are there to get on the TV cameras .

I can see no other reason, the child could easily be injured, it's not the right environment IMO, it's just using a baby for self promotion.

And in general those baby strap things on men look stupid. My wife tried to get me to use one with more success

I've said it off you all go.

I absolutely agree with you. Babies as accessories always annoys me.

splinter65

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Imagine searching the length and breadth of the country for a ticket, only to find out one was given to a toddler

Worlds gone crazy. No kids under 6 should be allowed in wasting seats and getting in the way.

cms88

Dannyriver wrote: »

So no one should express an opinion and we should all shut up and put up yeah, like in the good old days?

People are given their opinion as well. You just don't seem to agree with them

harpsman

Stoner wrote: »

Said it before

Those guys bringing babies to games, strapped to their bellies facing out with big ear muffs the child are there to get on the TV cameras .

I can see no other reason, the child could easily be injured, it's not the right environment IMO, it's just using a baby for self promotion.

And in general those baby strap things on men look stupid. My wife tried to get me to use one with more success

I've said it off you all go.

Call me old fashioned but i always form a certain opinion of a man if i see him wearing one of those harnesses-bit like Apu with the bottles strapped to him.


We are at peak "stupid whinge about the gaa" season. While i get as fed up as anyone explaining to people why most of their whinges are idiotic i do think the gaa could show a bit f leeway when it comes to babies. In most situations a small nursing baby is not considered as another person and is usually allowed free of charge as it is almost attached to its mother at that stage.


I know that this would involve having an arbitrary cut off at some stage and this would no doubt be tested by selfish chancers it might be something cp just have to deal with. As somebody said the Aviva and ryanair can manage it.



The last time i heard this row was from a tyrone family as well-must be a nordie self indulgent thing

liogairmhordain

The debate on bringing kids to matches has reminded me of something I came across when looking through a newspaper archive from 1980:

"By the time the throw-in for the senior match between Armagh and Roscommon arrived, more than 36,000 paying customers were in Croke Park. Others were still outside spending much time and effort getting public address appeals within to lost parents, sisters, brothers and children, appealing for them to come out again. Small lost children at Croke Park have now become so common that one wonders about the fuss which is going on about abortion and contraception. It is absolutely clear to me that many parents don't deserve children and there are many more who bring what children they have to Croke Park in an effort to lose them".

The past is a foreign country etc etc

ProudDUB

harpsman wrote: »

Call me old fashioned but i always form a certain opinion of a man if i see him wearing one of those harnesses-bit like Apu with the bottles strapped to him.


We are at peak "stupid whinge about the gaa" season. While i get as fed up as anyone explaining to people why most of their whinges are idiotic i do think the gaa could show a bit f leeway when it comes to babies. In most situations a small nursing baby is not considered as another person and is usually allowed free of charge as it is almost attached to its mother at that stage.


I know that this would involve having an arbitrary cut off at some stage and this would no doubt be tested by selfish chancers it might be something cp just have to deal with. As somebody said the Aviva and ryanair can manage it.



The last time i heard this row was from a tyrone family as well-must be a nordie self indulgent thing

You'd be doing well to just be called old fashioned after the first paragraph, but you redeemed yourself as you went on. A man strapping his own child to his chest to take him/her wherever they need to go, shouldn't be looked down on & derided.

What if he has a toddler with him too, so he needs his hands free to hang onto him? Does he get his gold card to the man cave back, if there are mitigating circumstances? :rolleyes:

LoughNeagh2017

They should keep their Tyrone weins with granny in Tyrone. I don't think football games are places for young children anyway, even when I was 7/8 I was a bit scared of the rowdy Armagh/Tyrone fans.

I went to my first game aged 7 in 1999, I don't know what game though, either v Cavan or Armagh, I think I remember Joe Brolly scoring a great point. I technically met the Derry captain as a baby though, when the Sam Maguire came to the primary school. People older than me would have went to games earlier though as Derry used to play games in South Derry before Celtic Park in the 90s, the games were easier to get to pre 90s.

Dannyriver

Stoner wrote: »

Said it before

Those guys bringing babies to games, strapped to their bellies facing out with big ear muffs the child are there to get on the TV cameras .

I can see no other reason, the child could easily be injured, it's not the right environment IMO, it's just using a baby for self promotion.

And in general those baby strap things on men look stupid. My wife tried to get me to use one with more success

I've said it off you all go.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/baby-bonding-oxytocin-opioids-euphoria-2016-10?r=US&IR=T

TomsOnTheRoof

Dannyriver wrote: »

http://uk.businessinsider.com/baby-bonding-oxytocin-opioids-euphoria-2016-10?r=US&IR=T

It's been shown that dogs produce oxytocin when in the company of their owners. Doesn't mean you should strap it to your chest and try and cadge a free All Ireland ticket though.

ProudDUB

TomsOnTheRoof wrote: »

It's been shown that dogs produce oxytocin when in the company of their owners. Doesn't mean you should strap it to your chest and try and cadge a free All Ireland ticket though.

Unless your mammary glands produce milk & your dog has a not entirely healthy relationship with your nipples, that's hardly a relevant comparison.

Strabanimal

Imagine the outrage if Dublin lose to Tyrone for a potential 4 in a row in the All Ireland final?

Stoner

ProudDUB wrote:

What if he has a toddler with him too, so he needs his hands free to hang onto him? Does he get his gold card to the man cave back, if there are mitigating circumstances?

I'd have the baby in a buggy rather than waddle after a toddler, I can barely catch mine as it is, never mind do it with another one strapped to me.

I know you haven't suggested it but
I certainly wouldn't bring a child to the hill strapped to the front of me, because it's dangerous. I'd get a sitter or miss the games until is safe to bring them.

All that said, in a seat on your lap, I can't see the issue with a baby going for free.

My wife spent a fortune on one of those things for me.

I gave it the full monty at home, strapped on son, sandals, mobile phone in a leather belt pouch, Swiss army knife in a pouch on the other side, leather hat proving I was in Australia for a year, stainless steel water bottle clipped on, pedal pusher combats showing some of my Maori leg tattoo and finally a backpack for baby clothes, nappies, food etc. It was all very cosy.

I wasn't always just a Dad you know, I've traveled.

jluv

Charging 80 euro for a ticket for the baby is not going to change the H&S aspect of this. One vacant seat is not going to change noise levels or any other risk posed to the child.I personally would not bring my infant child to a game like that.
My reading of it is that the GAA will overlook H&S for 80 euro? Put an age limit on tickets with an explanation as to why.Maybe insurance won't cover it?
But when I see the GAA charge 80 euro for all young hurling and football supporters,who play the game every week,go to all league and championship games,the future of the game,then I see it as money means more than "customer loyalty" as such. I would be ok with 50 euro for an under 16. These kids are helping to keep the GAA alive.
With regard to this case,I don't think the child should be there. But if the mother/parent is going to bring them then don't think it's justified to charge 80 euro for a seat that will never be used.

Stoner

jluv wrote:

Charging 80 euro for a ticket for the baby is not going to change the H&S aspect of this. One vacant seat is not going to change noise levels or any other risk posed to the child.I personally would not bring my infant child to a game like that. My reading of it is that the GAA will overlook H&S for 80 euro?

Agreed, it's either a H&S issue it it's not.

IMO it's not a good environment for a baby. Particularly in terraces.

We were at a game two years ago, my friend had his young son in a seat , a guy behind him upset at the game lashed out and kicked the chair smashing it with the young boy in it. He'd have been safer on his dad's knee.

ProudDUB

Stoner wrote: »

I'd have the baby in a buggy rather than waddle after a toddler, I can barely catch mine as it is, never mind do it with another one strapped to me.

I know you haven't suggested it but
I certainly wouldn't bring a child to the hill strapped to the front of me, because it's dangerous. I'd get a sitter or miss the games until is safe to bring them.

All that said, in a seat on your lap, I can't see the issue with a baby going for free.

My wife spent a fortune on one of those things for me.

I gave it the full monty at home, strapped on son, sandals, mobile phone in a leather belt pouch, Swiss army knife in a pouch on the other side, leather hat proving I was in Australia for a year, stainless steel water bottle clipped on, pedal pusher combats showing some of my Maori leg tattoo and finally a backpack for baby clothes, nappies, food etc. It was all very cosy.

I wasn't always just a Dad you know, I've traveled.

Am not entirely sure who I should forward this to for a response....a good psychologist, a marriage therapist, a mens fashion guru (perhaps Paul Galvin is free, sure what else would he be doing at this time of year) or Bear Grylls. Can I get back to you on that?

At the end of the day, the child in question survived the ordeal of the semi final. Thankfully, he was not so traumatized by experiencing such an incredibly dangerous/hazardous/monsoon and heatwave prone/loud/rowdy/violent/drunken environment, that his mother was put off bringing him again. That should be celebrated.

(It is a miracle that any of us make it out of there alive really, isn't it? :rolleyes: )

We have some, neck on here, presuming to dictate to her what she should and shouldn't do with her own child. That should not be the issue under discussion here. The issue is Croke Park's ridiculous policy of making people purchase a ticket for a baby that will be strapped to their chest and will not require a seat. It is an utter nonsense if that gets talked about less, than dictating to a total stranger what she should or shouldn't do with her own child.

Third_Echelon

ProudDUB wrote: »

Because the child is 4 months old and will spend the game strapped to her body. He does not require his own seat. Why should she buy a ticket for a seat for a child, when he does not need need one and has zero ability to actually sit in it?

Most one year olds are perfectly capable of sitting in a seat by the age of one, yet airlines still allow kids to go free up to the age of 2, as do the Aviva stadium. It boggles the mind that anyone would have a problem with a similar system being in place in Croke Park.

Exactly. It's common practice in many areas where kids under 2 are considered as sitting on their parent's lap and don't require a ticket. Charging 80 quid for it is a joke when there was no charge previously.

Most NFL teams in the states (arguably the most $ greedy org on the planet) allow lap kids in for free in the majority of stadiums.

I brought my own son to a 55,000 seater MLS game a few months ago at Stanford Stadium near San Francisco and he was 3 & 1/2 months old. Sat on my knee or with my wife in the baby sling thing. Baby bag with all we needed slotted under our seat just fine. Set of ear defenders on him and he was grand. Left near the end just to beat traffic, but he wasn't traumatised or anything by it

I wouldn't judge anyone for wanting to bring a young kid to a game like that. As long as they are adequately prepared then fine.

Charging a full price ticket is a complete joke!

Fr Tod Umptious

Third_Echelon wrote: »

Exactly. It's common practice in many areas where kids under 2 are considered as sitting on their parent's lap and don't require a ticket. Charging 80 quid for it is a joke when there was no charge previously.

Most NFL teams in the states (arguably the most $ greedy org on the planet) allow lap kids in for free in the majority of stadiums.

I brought my own son to a 55,000 seater MLS game a few months ago at Stanford Stadium near San Francisco and he was 3 & 1/2 months old. Sat on my knee or with my wife in the baby sling thing. Baby bag with all we needed slotted under our seat just fine. Set of ear defenders on him and he was grand. Left near the end just to beat traffic, but he wasn't traumatised or anything by it

I wouldn't judge anyone for wanting to bring a young kid to a game like that. As long as they are adequately prepared then fine.

Charging a full price ticket is a complete joke!

Would the NFL allow kids on laps for free to a Superbowl ?

Because that's what the comparison should be here, not some MLS game.

nice_guy80

Kids don't have a right to go to a game
Would there be a discounted ticket for the Champions League final?

flasher0030

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Would the NFL allow kids on laps for free to a Superbowl ?

Because that's what the comparison should be here, not some MLS game.

Nail on the head!! This is the showcase event of the year for the GAA. Stadium packed. It’s not safe for a youngster. If the child was even over the age of 1, it would have some resistance to the odd bang. But if a 4 month old baby got an elbow to the head in the midst of the celebrations when Tyrone get a last minute goal to beat the Dubs, it could have severe consequences. Or if it rains, and the child gets pneumonia. Or develops hearing issues. Where are the parents going to turn to then. Remember, Ireland is the compensation culture.

Parents know that when you have kids, it restricts many social outings in their lives. I have a couple of kids. And at first it was a bit frustrating, but you get to just accept these things in time, without an element of “Oh God, I wish I could go. It’s not fair”. It might be the case that it’s their first kid, and up to now had the freedom of the world. Like I said, it takes a while to accept that life will never be the same, but after a few incidences like this, the realisation will hit home. But at the end of the day, you can’t underestimate the joy of having kids. And the need to attend All-Ireland finals pales in significance in comparison to the safety of the child. A 4 month old is just too young. Hasn’t the proper neck strength to stay upright for long lengths, and shouldn’t be just left in a sling type device for that long.

The parents need a wake up call.

Fr Tod Umptious

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Kids don't have a right to go to a game
Would there be a discounted ticket for the Champions League final?

Exactly
In Croke Park or anywhere else during the championship a U-16 ticket is usually €5, for league games in spring they are free.
But in no sport in the world will you get a discount for the championship game.

Dannyriver

jluv wrote: »

Charging 80 euro for a ticket for the baby is not going to change the H&S aspect of this. One vacant seat is not going to change noise levels or any other risk posed to the child.I personally would not bring my infant child to a game like that.
My reading of it is that the GAA will overlook H&S for 80 euro? Put an age limit on tickets with an explanation as to why.Maybe insurance won't cover it?
But when I see the GAA charge 80 euro for all young hurling and football supporters,who play the game every week,go to all league and championship games,the future of the game,then I see it as money means more than "customer loyalty" as such. I would be ok with 50 euro for an under 16. These kids are helping to keep the GAA alive.
With regard to this case,I don't think the child should be there. But if the mother/parent is going to bring them then don't think it's justified to charge 80 euro for a seat that will never be used.

But insurance will cover it because it s NOT a big risk, people on here seem to be implying that the woman is foolhardy and reckless to want her child to say in years to come that they were at the all ireland final where Tyrone beat Dublin.

splinter65

Keano wrote: »

Sure why is she allowed out of the house in the first place. Husband should be fined for letting her out.

Are you mad? Nobody “lets” anyone “out” now?!? Where is there any mention of a “husband” anyway? This is 2018 not 1948.
Babies of 16 weeks don’t belong in a big very noisy and boisterous crowd for 3 hours at all, especially open air, and this baby doesn’t need to go to this function.
The only important thing here is the welfare of the child, the parents wishes as always should be secondary.

andrew1977

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Exactly
In Croke Park or anywhere else during the championship a U-16 ticket is usually €5, for league games in spring they are free.
But in no sport in the world will you get a discount for the championship game.

The English FA do some concessionary ticket prices for the FA cup final each year.Prices are still high for the final , but they do allow a certain amount of tickets at a reduced rate for pensioners/children.

bruschi

andrew1977 wrote: »

The English FA do some concessionary ticket prices for the FA cup final each year.Prices are still high for the final , but they do allow a certain amount of tickets at a reduced rate for pensioners/children.

the ticket prices in the FA cup final ranged from £45 to £145. The average price being over £100. The average price for the FA semi finals is £60. Limited concessions get anywhere from £10 to £25 off for children and OAPs. considering that most children get charged €5 entry up to the final, then it works out overall far cheaper. So its the best of both worlds, every county benefits from cheap entrance for kids for all games up to the final. the final is the only time where they pay full price. The GAA could change this and start increasing family tickets or childrens prices for other games, but they dont. so overall, a person bringing their child to the games works out well even allowing for adding in the expense of the final.

It may not be the most ideal situation, but to be honest, if they were to give reduced rates for the final but to change prior policy up to that and have reduced rates rather than a set €5 rate, they would actually make more money.

ProudDUB

flasher0030 wrote: »

Nail on the head!! This is the showcase event of the year for the GAA. Stadium packed. It’s not safe for a youngster. If the child was even over the age of 1, it would have some resistance to the odd bang. But if a 4 month old baby got an elbow to the head in the midst of the celebrations when Tyrone get a last minute goal to beat the Dubs, it could have severe consequences. Or if it rains, and the child gets pneumonia. Or develops hearing issues. Where are the parents going to turn to then. Remember, Ireland is the compensation culture.

Parents know that when you have kids, it restricts many social outings in their lives. I have a couple of kids. And at first it was a bit frustrating, but you get to just accept these things in time, without an element of “Oh God, I wish I could go. It’s not fair”. It might be the case that it’s their first kid, and up to now had the freedom of the world. Like I said, it takes a while to accept that life will never be the same, but after a few incidences like this, the realisation will hit home. But at the end of the day, you can’t underestimate the joy of having kids. And the need to attend All-Ireland finals pales in significance in comparison to the safety of the child. A 4 month old is just too young. Hasn’t the proper neck strength to stay upright for long lengths, and shouldn’t be just left in a sling type device for that long.

The parents need a wake up call.

That long? It is a 70 minute match, with a 15 minute break the middle. What about parents who take their children on 14 hour long haul flights to Australia? By your ridiculous logic, they shouldn't be allowed enter the airport, never mind get on the plane.