Should the Isle of Man become part of Ireland?

John the Whammer

For example, if there was to be a united Ireland, should the Isle of Man become Irish territory? After all, there is legend that the mythological giant Finn McCool took a lump out of the ground to through at an opponent across the Irish Sea, but it missed and landed in water and became the Isle of Man. The void left by the clump of land filled with water and became Lough Neagh, and the pebble became Rockall.

Regardless of mythology, the Isle of Man isn't important for anything apart from being a tax haven and the birthplace of the Bee Gees. The U.K. certainly couldn't give a sh**e about it.

Say if Rockall was to become an offshore part of County Donegal, and the Isle of Man became the 33rd county or other territory of a United Republic, what would be the problem with that? There are less than 100,000 people living in the IOM right now.

I think there is potential for Mann within Ireland.

What are your opinions?

Ipso

Lets form the Peoples Front for Manannan mac Lir, stay away from the Popular Front for Manannan mac Lir and especially the Peoples Popular Front for Manannan mac Lir.

The Backwards Man

They can do whatever they want, but if they want to come they better throw them stupid fcuking trains in the sea first.

Rented Mule

Well, if you take the Isle of Mann, you might as well take Newfoundland as well.

judeboy101

No, our road deaths would go sky high thanks to the tt races.

Mrs OBumble

Have people from there expressed the slightest bit of interest in joining a bananna republic?

Conall Cernach

The Isle of Man shouldn't be part of Ireland but I would welcome it into a Celtic League that would include an independent Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall and Brittany.

Giraffe Box

Good idea, we could then reclaim Celtic's Isle of Man born Kieran Tierney back from Scotland.
Imagine, Tierney and Coleman as our two wingbacks!

Mutant z

It would have to be put to the Manx to decide in a referendum i doubt they have even given this the slightest bit of thought and neither has anyone else but the op apparently.

Ipso

Ten of Swords wrote: »

I would LOVE to read the Irish submission to the Hague Boundary Commission for a territorial claim over the Isle of Man on that basis. :rolleyes:

Sounds like something one of the Healy-Raes would propose!

Maybe we could also claim ownership of Israel based on the Book of Invasions.

Giraffe Box

Ipso wrote: »

Maybe we could also claim ownership of Israel based on the Book of Invasions.

I love Horslips!

Will I Am Not

Would we have to rename it to appease Louise O’Neill?

Roger Hassenforder

Manx dont really like us.
Or the English, Welsh or Scottish.

Come to think of it, they dont really like anyone.

Dr Turk Turkelton

Horribly fcuking sexist op.
It should be the Isle of Persons.

bear1

In what reality would this ever happen? What benefit would this bring to the island/s?

Chaos Tourist

Where does this end?

A policy of Lebensraum and the invasion of Iceland?

Teyla Emmagan

Have we any ties to the Manx? Bar Manannan McLir?

Zebra3

The boom is back.

Not even the wee six is enough any more!

Ten of Swords

bear1 wrote: »

In what reality would this ever happen? What benefit would this bring to the island/s?

It would benefit them immensely as the Isle of Man is not part of the EU and as such people born there (though legally British citizens) are not entitled to employment in any EU country unless they have lived in the UK mainland for at least 5 years.


Not sure how Ireland would benefit exactly, but open to being enlightened!

Harry Palmr

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Have we any ties to the Manx? Bar Manannan McLir?

Offshore accounts thousands of them!

Noveight

Hold your horses, we’ve to get the Six back first!

Zebra3

All that "Eire 33" graffiti would look cack.

fxotoole

Christ no! If they became part of Ireland, we’d have to subsume all things Manx. We’d be known around the world for having **** ugly cats!

Taytoland

No, it belongs to the crown.

Ten of Swords

Never gonna happen. It would cost BILLIONS to construct and would not recoup its investment even if the bridge carried road, high speed rail and pipelines. There is no infrastructure on either side so that would all have to be build, and the nearest city on the Scottish side would be Glasgow.

Passenger travel from Dublin to Glasgow would still be faster by air, you'd want to have a Mag Lev train for the route to be remotely competitive. The route would not be used for cargo either as the ferry to Holyhead still offers more direct access to the UK's economic heartlands, unless the cargo is going specifically to Scotland.

Ipso

fxotoole wrote: »

Christ no! If they became part of Ireland, we’d have to subsume all things Manx. We’d be known around the world for having **** ugly cats!

Yeah, they would be like a third leg.

Ubbquittious

Sure we might as well grab it if it's available. No good in letting it go to someone else

gozunda

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Have people from there expressed the slightest bit of interest in joining a bananna republic?

Why? You leaving said 'banana republic?

Ubbquittious

Ten of Swords wrote: »

Never gonna happen. It would cost BILLIONS to construct and would not recoup its investment even if the bridge carried road, high speed rail and pipelines. There is no infrastructure on either side so that would all have to be build, and the nearest city on the Scottish side would be Glasgow.

Passenger travel from Dublin to Glasgow would still be faster by air, you'd want to have a Mag Lev train for the route to be remotely competitive. The route would not be used for cargo either as the ferry to Holyhead still offers more direct access to the UK's economic heartlands, unless the cargo is going specifically to Scotland.

What about a cable car? Could be got to run at the same speed as a ferry or close to it. No need to go for the absolute shortest distance you could put one terminal near Belfast. Great for the footprint too

John the Whammer

There is lots of land on the Isle of Man - think of the potential. TT races would bring tourism income.

Ten of Swords

County Louth is considerably larger than the Isle of Man.

What other advantages do you see to this hypothetical?

Sgt Hartman

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Have we any ties to the Manx? Bar Manannan McLir?

Well.. the Manx language, Scots Gaelic and Irish are part of the same branch of Celtic languages called Goidelic Celtic. The 2nd branch of Celtic language, called Brythonic Celtic form the Welsh, Cornish, Breton and the extinct Cumbric and Pictish languages.

TheValeyard

So,


Are we going to ask them or just invade?

SEPT 23 1989

Just think of all the hassle the rich and famous would have to go through to move all their dealings off that island

Taytoland

Taytoland wrote: »

No, it belongs to the crown.

Enjoy this "Crown" nonsense while it lasts. Assuming that all the Britannia Rules the Waves crowd believe the IofM being in the EU would be another EU conspiracy, I think this is a great idea.

Keep them coming.


While you're here, I also think we should get Brexiters to swear an Oath of Allegiance to the EU, and we should also insist that the the EU holds on to at least three British ports. The very least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-286xpqtC7M

archer22

Christ there's a lot of Idi Amin type characters popping up in Ireland lately with their big notions and delusions!

super_furry

Manx people are all inbred weirdos and we already have Dingle.

corner of hells

super_furry wrote: »

Manx people are all inbred weirdos and we already have Dingle.

Would we get away with trading Leitrim for the Isle of Man ?
The six up north could become seven and we've have a nice holiday island.

Atoms for Peace

archer22 wrote: »

Christ there's a lot of Idi Amin type characters popping up in Ireland lately with their big notions and delusions!

Last Lord of the isles.

Oafley Jones

Loving the use of “the celts”. As group it’s pretty much complete bollox. It’s just an excuse for every kind of political bull**** you want, having little (or no) basis in either material or linguistic morphology. Whether that is Edward lhyud, the Romans and the Gauls or Hitler. Even the EU used the notion of the Celts (pointing to bronze trade)as one of the earliest examples for historical precedent.

Ipso

With the what now.

Dr. Bre

The Irle of man

Dr. Bre

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Loving the use of “the celts”. As group it’s pretty much complete bollox. It’s just an excuse for every kind of political bull**** you want, having little (or no) basis in either material or linguistic morphology. Whether that is Edward lhyud, the Romans and the Gauls or Hitler. Even the EU used the notion of the Celts (pointing to bronze trade)as one of the earliest examples for historical precedent.

We are all decscendants of China men

Ipso

Dr. Bre wrote: »

We are all decscendants of China men

Great bunch of lads.

archer22

The only island worth grabbing now is Greenland..with the ice cap retreating that's going to be one hell of a piece of valuable real estate yet.

Ipso

archer22 wrote: »

The only island worth grabbing now is Greenland..with the ice cap retreating that's going to be one hell of a piece of valuable real estate yet.

Not as good as Golden Island in Athlone.

Hector Bellend

Will I Am Not wrote: »

Would we have to rename it to appease Louise O’Neill?

Yes. Isle of C@nt

Taytoland

Deleted User wrote: »

Taytoland wrote: »

No, it belongs to the crown.

Enjoy this "Crown" nonsense while it lasts. Assuming that all the Britannia Rules the Waves crowd believe the IofM being in the EU would be another EU conspiracy, I think this is a great idea.

Keep them coming.


While you're here, I also think we should get Brexiters to swear an Oath of Allegiance to the EU, and we should also insist that the the EU holds on to at least three British ports. The very least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-286xpqtC7M

I've said it before and I'll say the same again, the EU can go to hell. Certainly won't be seeing me supporting the EU or it's flag.

Alice1

Tell iz more 'bout Fionn McCool - I like him. I didn't know the Manx didn't like us. I was only there once and they seemed very

Dr. Turk you are sooo right... an' Germany should be called Gerpersony too.

lawred2

Bee Gees are from the Isle of Man? Learn something new every day.

lawred2

Taytoland wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say the same again, the EU can go to hell. Certainly won't be seeing me supporting the EU or it's flag.

Ye and yer unhealthy obsession with flegs...

Doesn't serve any good whatever