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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    Grads Base plan, Week 2


    Monday 10th June - Off
    Lots of foam rolling done during the evening to keep the niggles at bay.


    Tuesday 11th June - 45 mins easy. 5.1m @ 9:21
    Late evening 5 miler. Still trying to slow things down.


    Wednesday 12th June - 45 mins moderate pace. 5.5m @8.24
    After the mile warm up, I was *this* close to turning back for home as I wasn't sure I'd be back in time to get the school routine of wake up calls/making breakfasts/school lunches started. Also partly because I struggled to feel motivated before leaving the hous so that wasn't a great start. Anyway, thankfully I stuck with it as I knew there was no chance of getting out during the evening. Felt ok with the pacing.



    Thursday 13th June - 45 mins easy. 5.09m @ 9.19
    Late evening run for the second time this week, again went slightly beyond the 45 mins mark just to squeeze in the 5th mile.


    Friday 14th June - Off
    More rolling...... getting my money's worth :D


    Saturday 15th June - 45 mins easy (last 5 mins @threshhold). 4.93 @9:07
    Up early for this and the legs just felt like complete dead weights, really sluggish for the whole thing. I knew that this was from lack of sleep. I currently have caricature commissions coming out of my ears at the moment and with precious little drawing time to get them done, it often results in burning the candle at both ends. No wonder I felt so tired.
    Went easy enough and the threshold pace was run at around 7:10 which was still manageable. Even at the early hour, preparations had begun for setting up of the Griffeen Parkrun 6 year anniversary. Professional event organisers had been drafted in to set up marquee, banners and yoga tent and I wondered if I should wander back down for an easy 5k to join in the celebrations but thought better of it.
    Followed the run by a 10 min cool down.


    Sunday 16th June - 90 mins easy. 10.14m @9.32
    Another early start but noticed that the Garmin had only 12% battery left, despite me charging it the previous evening. Took the phone with the Strava app just in case the watch died.......which it did at mile 6. Miles 7 through 10 were run entirely by feel. As a result, the splits for these latter miles were run slower than usual.
    Legs felt much better today after yesterday's leggy run.
    Came home to a lovely haul of Father's Day pressies, including some brand spanking new running gear. My fellow 2018 novices will be thrilled silly to hear that I finally have some new running shorts!!! :D:D

    Miles for the week - 33.6

    Miles for the year - 764

    Will be doing the Docklands 5k this Thursday - my very first taste of a 5k race so quite excited about that. Was actually looking forward to Wednesday's 60 min progression run - mostly to make amends for my previous progression run 'fail' but will have to sacrifice this given that I'll be racing in Docklands. Still, there's a 70 min progression run in the plan in a couple week's time to look forward to.
    So, a couple of things need to change in the coming weeks and beyond.......
    Diet- I don't necessarily have a bad diet as such and I'm not one for eating junk food, I just need to cut out late-night snacking.
    Sleep - not getting anywhere near enough sleep, especially considering the amount of early runs I'm doing so something's got to give.

    Current listening - The Rambling Runner podcast.
    I've been a podcast fan for a few years now and up till now would have listened predominately to comedy themed podcasts but after making a recent conscious effort to expand my knowledge of running, I stumbled across this one by pure accident. It's aimed specifically at amateur runners who take their running seriously enough. The interviews are with well-known athletes in the world of running (mostly US-based) who discuss their individual running careers. Most of the discussions I've listened to so far focus on each runner's early career, their pb's and the sometimes startling progression they've made to reach their current form. Lots of discussion too about the internal dialogue us runners face from time to time. Well worth checking out. Its been going for a few years now so there's only 170 episodes to catch up with.......:rolleyes:

    Thanks for reading!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    coogy wrote: »
    Grads Intermediate plan - Week 1 (continued)


    For some reason, it won't allow me to edit this particular post......:confused:

    Just in case anyone was wondering, this is not the Grads Intermediate plan, just the Base plan. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,964 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Best of luck tonight K! I had my first "proper" 5k in the past month as well... embrace the pain!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    Best of luck tonight K! I had my first "proper" 5k in the past month as well... embrace the pain!


    Thanks A, really looking forward to it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    coogy wrote: »
    Thanks A, really looking forward to it!


    Weirdo :P I'm very nervous for some reason!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    ReeReeG wrote: »
    Weirdo :P I'm very nervous for some reason!


    Who am I kidding?....... I'm bricking it!!!! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,307 ✭✭✭ariana`


    coogy wrote: »
    Thanks A, really looking forward to it!

    Love it! Best of luck, embrace the pain, it won't last long!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    Just wanted to log this while it's still relatively fresh in the memory!!

    Docklands 5k


    I was experiencing a real mix of excitement and nerves in the build up to this. Even though it was my first proper attempt at a 5k event, I had allowed myself to assume that a sub-20 time was as good as in the bag, based mostly on my Parkrun experiences to date.
    Arrived well ahead of time, bumped into Wubble Wubble at the bag drop before meeting up with ReeReeG for a nice, easy 5k loop around Dublin's docks which got the legs nice and limber. Earlier in the day, I had a stroll along part of the route and while taking it in, it immediately dawned on me that this particular 5k would be an altogether different beast to a regular Parkrun.

    After a brief downpour about an hour before the start, the conditions were muggy/heavy and by the time I had made my way up to the 19 minute pacers (what on earth was I doing THERE??) at the start line, I was already dripping with perspiration. I hung around at the back of the 19-minute pacing group before the start and figured I'd do what I could in the early stages to keep them within easy enough reach.

    Mile 1 - 6:00
    Off we went, in the direction of Liberty Hall and veered right over the bridge at the Custom House/IFSC. Even as we crossed the bridge, it was still quite congested and had to watch my footing, especially with the sun in our eyes. As I eyed my pace of around 5:45. it was still too early on to tell how the next few miles were going to shape up as I was primarily focused on not letting the pacers get too far away from me but by the time we had reached the Convention Centre, it soon became evident that maintaining the effort I was putting in would be a big ask and noticed that the 19 minute pacer had begun to ever so slightly pull away. The leading pack were already making their way back up towards the City Quay bridge looking mightily controlled.

    Mile 2 - 6:21
    As is often the case during races, when I find myself having to start to dig deep, I am guilty of focusing too much on the distance left to run and wonder/doubt if I truly have what it takes to make it to the finish line without either slowing up considerably or even stopping altogether.
    These very thoughts were impossible to ignore on this occasion as we made our way up the seemingly endless journey back up towards the IFSC. By now I had already officially lost the 19 minute pacers and a glance at the watch spelled trouble, compounded by the ever nearing shouts from the 20 minute pacers behind me. Some welcome encouragement came from Hobbyjogger and skyblue which spurred me on ever so slightly, even though I was now officially 'struggling' and with a mile to go, I already felt as if I had nothing left in the tank.

    Mile 3 - 6:51, (.15m @6.04)
    With the levels of effort now at a maximum and with a worryingly large number of runners passing me out, we crossed back over the bridge at City Quay and another glance at the watch showed 15:xx. I knew I would have to push even harder than I already was if I was going to get anywhere under 20 minutes and the sight of the finish line - barely visible from the beginning of the home straight - confirmed to me that it wasn't going to happen today.
    The 20 minute pacers were now just ahead of me and although I found a burst of speed from somewhere in the last 300 metres, it wasn't quite enough. I crossed the line in a heap, found the nearest bench and swore like a sailor while pouring the contents of a bottle of water over my head. Nothing quite like a good old fashioned swear-fest to let it all out......:p
    Chip time was 20:07

    Saw WW cross the line mere seconds after me and assessed the damage with skyblue as we made our way down to the refreshments. Met up again with ReeReeG and after some much need grub and a beer, was introduced for the first time to aquinn, Murph_D and singer. Lovely to put more faces to familiar Boards names.

    So, on reflection, I'm not overly disappointed, as it's still a respectable enough time. Racing strategies were poorly judged in my eyes, possibly influenced by the combined excitement and nerves on the day.
    Not really sure what's next, race-wise. Might try out the Kilcock 10 from 10 at the end of July before the Ratoath Half in September.

    Cheers!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭chickey2


    So close! Sounds like a lot of people found it tough which suggests conditions weren't ideal for a pb. You'll get there soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,307 ✭✭✭ariana`


    It'd be interesting if you could see a parallel version where you started with the 20 min pacer instead of the 19 or even somewhere in between...

    It was a great effort on a tough enough evening, by all accounts it was warm out there and the course possibly a small bit long as well? Lots of lessons learnt too i'd say! Well done :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    ariana` wrote: »
    It'd be interesting if you could see a parallel version where you started with the 20 min pacer instead of the 19 or even somewhere in between...

    It was a great effort on a tough enough evening, by all accounts it was warm out there and the course possibly a small bit long as well? Lots of lessons learnt too i'd say! Well done :)


    Yeah, I think the more sensible option would have been to hang back a bit at the start. Who knows what difference 30 seconds might have made for that first mile?

    Anyway, like you say, lesson learnt and I know I'll get there eventually!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    ariana` wrote: »
    It'd be interesting if you could see a parallel version where you started with the 20 min pacer instead of the 19 or even somewhere in between...

    It was a great effort on a tough enough evening, by all accounts it was warm out there and the course possibly a small bit long as well? Lots of lessons learnt too i'd say! Well done :)
    coogy wrote: »
    Yeah, I think the more sensible option would have been to hang back a bit at the start. Who knows what difference 30 seconds might have made for that first mile?

    Anyway, like you say, lesson learnt and I know I'll get there eventually!!

    Great run K. Nice detail and report. Sure you know yourself, the splits tell you. No wonder I couldn't find you at the start :D

    The experience will stand to you big time for the next one, of that I've no doubt. Well done again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    Meant to add, I finally invested in some new running shoes today. To say "they are overdue is an understatement" is an understatement. Am now 130 euros lighter but still the proud owner of a brand spanking new pair of Brooks Ravenna 10's. Was happy to learn that I do not require a support shoe as much as I used to.
    Test run tomorrow!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    coogy wrote: »
    Meant to add, I finally invested in some new running shoes today. To say "they are overdue is an understatement" is an understatement. Am now 130 euros lighter but still the proud owner of a brand spanking new pair of Brooks Ravenna 10's. Was happy to learn that I do not require a support shoe as much as I used to.
    Test run tomorrow!!


    Sure you'll probably get 2000 miles out of this pair :P
    well done again on last night's race, and I feel a little guilty telling you to just go for it when you dithered over the 19 or 20 min pacer :o


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 19,068 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    I've a pair of Ravenna 9s and they've served me well.
    Well done on the race!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    ReeReeG wrote: »
    I feel a little guilty telling you to just go for it when you dithered over the 19 or 20 min pacer :o

    Not at all Valerie!! This one's all on me!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,768 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    coogy wrote: »
    Not at all Valerie!! This one's all on me!!!

    It does seem a bit rash, to be blunt, with your recent 5 mile time suggesting 20 as a far more likely target, I think. Your strava splits look very painful! You did well to finish at all under the circumstances. As you say, first real 5k race, so the learning will stand to you. Good to meet you after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    No worries D, I take it all on board! I think "rash" sums it up perfectly tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭Kellygirl


    Well done for giving it a bash anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    Grads Base plan, Week 3


    Monday 17th June - Off


    Tuesday 18th June - 60 mins easy. 6.51m @ 9:19
    Had to collect the kids from school so used it as an excuse to fit in a run home (starting outside Garda Rowing Club). 60 mins on the nose took me to the school gates. Very satisfying.......


    Wednesday 19th June - 30 mins easy, including some strides at the end. 4.24m @8.40
    The plan had a 60 min progression run but with the following day's Docklands 5k, thought it best to take it handy. Ran down to Ringsend Park for a short easy shuffle, finishing it off with about 7 or 8 x 100 metre strides.



    Thursday 20th June - Docklands 5k
    See above for post mortem race report.


    Friday 21st June - Off
    Hoping for a few miles recovery but time was not my friend today.


    Saturday 22nd June - 50 mins mix (9 mins easy/1 min hard). 5.71 @8:45
    I referred back to my log about this very session from earlier in the year just to get a sense of how 'hard' I ran the hard part.
    All it said was "Got this one so very, very wrong" but for the life of me, I can't remember why.........



    Sunday 23rd June - 2 hours easy. 13.01 @ 9:25
    The plan said '1 hour 45 mins easy' which I would have done were it not for some as-yet-unopened gates at the back entrance to Castletown Demesne so had to double back on myself before heading in via the Celbridge entrance.
    Also, given, Thursday's exertions, part of me was thinking I should be holding back on the distance slightly but I was enjoying this way too much.
    As for the Docklands 5k, I know there's little point in going over old ground as it's all been covered but let me just get it down in black and white: what I did/attempted was reeeeee-diculous! By now, I should know better, especially when it comes to my limitations. Sure, you can 'go for it' on the day but you have to know that you have it in you. There still needs to be some common sense involved too. Am putting this particular episode to bed now.

    Halfway through the Base plan, excited to get started with the Intermediate marathon plan in a few weeks time.

    New footwear: Had been wearing the Brooks Ravenna 9 - which was sold to me at the time as more of a stability shoe - and was in two minds about buying the same pair as they were reduced in Elverys. Thought it best to have another gait analysis done so headed up to Run Hub again and although there is a small amount of supination with my right foot, I don't really require as much foot support so was recommended the Brooks Ravenna 10. Very light on the feet and didn't take me long to feel comfortable in them.

    In other news......I noticed a small bit of swelling just above my left ankle yesterday evening. It feels a little tender too so I think a couple of day's rest and I'll assess it again.

    Miles for the week - 41.07

    Miles for the year - 805


    Current reading - Not quite 'current reading' but have just ordered Matt Fitzgerald's "80/20 running" from Amazon.



    Thanks for reading!!


    Edit: Yesterday was the 1st birthday of the Griffeen Junior Parkrun so lots of fanfare and goodies for afterwards. Took his nibs along and had a quick chat with him beforehand about some of his recent Parkruns where he's thrown in the towel over relatively minor stuff.
    He has the potential to be a great runner, I've seen that in him over the last year or so, and I told him to just take it handy but not to be afraid to put a little more into it if he feels like he's able. He ran brilliantly and finished 8th out of 133 runners, giving it absolute socks for the final 100 meters, overtaking three others in the process.
    It seems to be his thing so hopefully we can steer him in the right direction..........no pressure though........:p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭Huzzah!


    coogy wrote: »
    Grads Base plan, Week 3


    Monday 17th June - Off


    Tuesday 18th June - 60 mins easy. 6.51m @ 9:19
    Had to collect the kids from school so used it as an excuse to fit in a run home (starting outside Garda Rowing Club). 60 mins on the nose took me to the school gates. Very satisfying.......


    Wednesday 19th June - 30 mins easy, including some strides at the end. 4.24m @8.40
    The plan had a 60 min progression run but with the following day's Docklands 5k, thought it best to take it handy. Ran down to Ringsend Park for a short easy shuffle, finishing it off with about 7 or 8 x 100 metre strides.



    Thursday 20th June - Docklands 5k
    See above for post mortem race report.


    Friday 21st June - Off
    Hoping for a few miles recovery but time was not my friend today.


    Saturday 22nd June - 50 mins mix (9 mins easy/1 min hard). 5.71 @8:45
    I referred back to my log about this very session from earlier in the year just to get a sense of how 'hard' I ran the hard part.
    All it said was "Got this one so very, very wrong" but for the life of me, I can't remember why.........



    Sunday 23rd June - 2 hours easy. 13.01 @ 9:25
    The plan said '1 hour 45 mins easy' which I would have done were it not for some as-yet-unopened gates at the back entrance to Castletown Demesne so had to double back on myself before heading in via the Celbridge entrance.
    Also, given, Thursday's exertions, part of me was thinking I should be holding back on the distance slightly but I was enjoying this way too much.
    As for the Docklands 5k, I know there's little point in going over old ground as it's all been covered but let me just get it down in black and white: what I did/attempted was reeeeee-diculous! By now, I should know better, especially when it comes to my limitations. Sure, you can 'go for it' on the day but you have to know that you have it in you. There still needs to be some common sense involved too. Am putting this particular episode to bed now.

    Halfway through the Base plan, excited to get started with the Intermediate marathon plan in a few weeks time.

    New footwear: Had been wearing the Brooks Ravenna 9 - which was sold to me at the time as more of a stability shoe - and was in two minds about buying the same pair as they were reduced in Elverys. Thought it best to have another gait analysis done so headed up to Run Hub again and although there is a small amount of supination with my right foot, I don't really require as much foot support so was recommended the Brooks Ravenna 10. Very light on the feet and didn't take me long to feel comfortable in them.

    In other news......I noticed a small bit of swelling just above my left ankle yesterday evening. It feels a little tender too so I think a couple of day's rest and I'll assess it again.

    Miles for the week - 41.07

    Miles for the year - 805


    Current reading - Not quite 'current reading' but have just ordered Matt Fitzgerald's "80/20 running" from Amazon.



    Thanks for reading!!

    Well done on your first 5k. Don’t be so hard on yourself. I think it’s good every so often to just really go for it. 5ks hurt like the dickens anyway and take a good bit of practice - as I’ve learned myself this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    I've a pair of Ravenna 9s and they've served me well.
    Well done on the race!


    Thanks! Yeah, I seem to have taken to the Brooks alright. Had to choose between them, New Balance 880's, Mizuno Wave Ultima 11 and Asics Gel Cumulus 21.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    Huzzah! wrote: »
    Well done on your first 5k. Don’t be so hard on yourself. I think it’s good every so often to just really go for it. 5ks hurt like the dickens anyway and take a good bit of practice - as I’ve learned myself this year.


    Thanks E! You're dead right, it DOES hurt!! :D

    Seriously though, I'm slowly learning that "respect the distance" doesn't just apply to marathons! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    Grads Base plan, Week 4


    Monday 24th June - Off



    Tuesday 25th June - 55 mins moderate pace (8:10-8:20). 7.01m @ 8:12
    Evening session today and was looking forward to testing out what will eventually be my PMP for October. Lots of late evening activity in Griffeen, this really is a great place to run.
    Only realised afterwards that this run was actually scheduled for the following day.........:rolleyes:


    Wednesday 26th June - Scheduled - 60 mins easy pace
    Had to scratch this one off due to something or other. My mind's drawing a complete and utter blank. :o



    Thursday 27th June - 60 mins easy. .6.52m @ 9.27
    Had my earliest start in quite a while and chose a slightly different route. Beautiful morning too and the usual skeleton staff on the roads.


    Friday 28th June - 60 mins easy. 6.36m @9.27
    The plan had a rest day scheduled but wanted to make up for missing Wednesday's run, even though it would ultimately result in four straight days of running. Took advantage of a very quiet day in work to head down to PP and enjoy the scenery. Really lovely and was over much too soon.


    Saturday 29th June - 50 mins easy (last 5 mins @ threshold - approx 7:15). 5.45 @9.11
    Opened the front door and was greeted by a very loud clap of thunder followed by a short burst of early morning rain and a little flash of lightning thrown in for good measure, but with the sun still shining. The rain persisted on and off which was pleasant enough and the 5 mins @ threshold at the end was pretty much stitched on 7:15 which I was very happy with. As I came to a stop and took in the sun coming up over the empty park around me, I enjoyed a real rare moment of clarity that I didn't want to end. Snapped out of it eventually before heading for home.


    Sunday 23rd June - 1hr, 35 mins easy. 10.01m @ 9:34
    I had decided the day before to treat myself to an early trip in the car to the Phoenix Park for this run and even made a special effort to hit the hay earlier than usual the night before. Only thing I forgot to do was to set my alarm and ended up waking 3/4 hour later than planned. Took stock of the situation before actually getting out of bed as there was a Junior Parkrun to factor in and wasn't sure if I'd make it back in time. Decided to go for it anyway and hope for the best. Arrived and parked up on Chesterfield Ave around 6:50am and after some stretching, started on my lap of the park. Made my way up towards Castleknock gates and hung a left past OS and onto Knockmaroon Rd, all the way down to the magazine where I continued up as far as the Wellington monument, onto the North Rd and back down Chesterfield Ave. Really strange weather along the way with some early morning sunshine followed by a sudden spell of wind and rain and back to sunshine again. I had set out to try and slow things down more than I had been doing recently and once I had settled into my stride, I found it surprisingly easy to stick to. Didn't seem that long ago when I was really struggling to even run at this pace, let alone maintain it for 10 miles. Far and away my most enjoyable run in quite some time.
    The plan said 1hr 45 mins but I knew that I had to cut the run short by 10 minutes to make sure I was going to get back to the house in time for Parkrun. Didn't mind too much as I was happy having done the 10 miles.
    Himself put in another impressive performance coming 15th out of 123 runners. That's m'boy!!! :cool:


    Definitely need to see the physio this week. The very slight swelling around my ankle is still visible and although it doesn't hurt to run on it, there's a small bit of discomfort to the touch so I'll try to squeeze in an appointment before we head off on holiday next week.

    In other news.....my head space is now officially choc-a-bloc with thoughts of DCM. Resistance is futile.


    Miles for the week - 38.02

    Miles for the year - 843


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭Kellygirl


    Hope that swelling is nothing.

    Funny to see your artwork on my friends Facebook page during the week. It was excellent as always. Do ye know each other? I think you live in the same area?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    Yeah, small world alright!

    She's a friend of my wife (our kids go swimming together), only lives about 5 minutes down the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭Kellygirl


    coogy wrote: »
    Yeah, small world alright!

    She's a friend of my wife (our kids go swimming together), only lives about 5 minutes down the road.

    Ah I see. It was brilliant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    Kellygirl wrote: »
    Ah I see. It was brilliant.

    Cheers K!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    Just back from the physio.

    He had a good look at the ankle and after asking me to pinpoint where I was experiencing issues one of the first things he asked me was "have you had any insect bites recently?"
    That was really odd as I did notice last week that there was what looked like an insect bite on the back of my leg that I didn't really take much notice of. At one point there appeared to be some slight build up of fluid around it which disappeared a day or so later.
    He pretty much ruled out anything muscular/stress fracture and after giving my leg a really thorough massage and workout, it was enough for him to confirm that the swelling is non-running related which is good news and said that I was in pretty good shape generally. :)
    The swelling has gone down a little but if it's still there in a couple of days, I'll go to the doctor to see if they can throw any light on it.



    Edit: the physio I saw has run 26 marathons (PB of 2:42 from what I have investigated so far ;)) so I knew I was in good hands........


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭Damo 2k9


    Always a good thing to see a physio you trust, ive been to some cowboys in the past but as soon as you get a decent one, it definitely helps put the mind at ease!


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