UFC 226: Miocic v Cormier & Holloway vs Ortega

Paully D

Date: Saturday 7th July
Times: Fight Pass Prelims (11:30pm, Fight Pass), Prelims (1am, Fight Pass and BT Sport), Main Card (3am, BT Sport)
Venue: T-Mobile Arena, Vegas
Odds: Miocic (4/9) v Cormier (11/5), Holloway (8/11) vs Ortega (23/17)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W--SSlS1oVI

Zero-Cool

Ortega via Decision

Such a great card. Holloway Ortega is gonna be so interesting as will be Stipe DC. Cannot wait for this.

I've went with Ortega by sub, I think he'll get a snakey one, 5 rounds is very long. I went with Stipe by decision as well, DC is the toughest bastard on the roster, can't see him being finished.

yourdeadwright

Ortega via KO/TKO

Holloway by Decision
Stipe by KO

xtal191

Ortega via Decision

Stipe ko
Ortega sub

Cant wait for this card

Useful.Idiot

Ortega via KO/TKO

Stipe decision
Max decision

Tazzimus

That is an absolute belter of a card.

Stipe by decision, don't know if he can KO DC, mans tough as balls.
Ortega by sub, so close this one.

Ngannou/Lewis double KO via exhaustion, round 2.

ricero

Ortega via Decision

Stipe ko and T-city by sub.

Cracking card and the 4 lads in the main and co-main are absolute gents would be happy to see any of them win.

aj89

Holloway via Decision

Going for Stipe tko, and Holloway sub (guillotine).....

Fromvert

Holloway via KO/TKO

I'm kind of shocked Stipe is a favourite let alone a huge one. DC all day for me in this and going to have to punt him at 2/1. Stipe has the wrestling to deal with Ngannou but I can see DC absolutely clowning him in the grappling exchanges and grinding him down. He wrestled in college but he wasn't a stand out or even close to it.

But this is an absolute belter of a card.

yourdeadwright

Ortega via KO/TKO

Fromvert wrote: »

I'm kind of shocked Stipe is a favourite let alone a huge one. DC all day for me in this and going to have to punt him at 2/1. Stipe has the wrestling to deal with Ngannou but I can see DC absolutely clowning him in the grappling exchanges and grinding him down. He wrestled in college but he wasn't a stand out or even close to it.

But this is an absolute belter of a card.

He was an NCAA division 1 wrestler that's an achievement in itself, he is 3 years younger than DC , He is in better shape than DC and is more powerful than DC,  We know DC has better wrestling pedigree but Stipe is not to be laughed at , 
He will be good enough to keep it standing long enough to knock DC out ,

Tazzimus

Stipe's stand up is light years ahead of DC's. His footwork should be good enough to keep it standing.

Reason he wrestled Ngannou was to negate that Godzilla level punching power and tire him so he left with his head still attached.

Fromvert

Holloway via KO/TKO

yourdeadwright wrote: »

He was an NCAA division 1 wrestler that's an achievement in itself, he is 3 years younger than DC , He is in better shape than DC and is more powerful than DC,  We know DC has better wrestling pedigree but Stipe is not to be laughed at , 
He will be good enough to keep it standing long enough to knock DC out ,

Yes he was but I remember finding his record before and he wasn't a stand out, their grappling credentials when it comes to comparing them is like comparing different sports. He was gassed completely against Ngannou from grappling him. Let's see how that gas tank holds up when DC is the one in dominant position. He's very good I'm not denying that but DC is one of the best and I still have doubts about Stipe, you could look at his record and say all of his best wins are against guys past their best.

Stipe has better hands than Cormier but I'd rank Gus's boxing above Stipe's and Cormier was able to compete and hold his own in that one.

Ush1

Taking a punch from Gus and taking a punch from Stipe are different things though.

Fromvert

Holloway via KO/TKO

Ush1 wrote: »

Taking a punch from Gus and taking a punch from Stipe are different things though.

Yes I'd agree Stipe may has an edge in power (Gus can crack too) but they have similar reach and I'd give Gus the edge on Stipe technically and DC could get in past his jab and do work. He also has been able to take serious punishment in his fights, Rumble being the obvious biggest hitter. So I believe he'll be able to take the shots and get inside

Stipe hasn't be pushed in his title run (due to him getting it done in the first round so not a knock on him!) the one fight that has gone over a round he dominated the fight and grappling but was seriously sucking air those last 5-10 minutes. Don't see him getting DC out of there early and if DC gets his grappling going (which I think he will) I can see Stipe being the one struggling late in the fight.

Fromvert

Holloway via KO/TKO

I can't think of a wrestling based fighter Stipe has fought. I could be completely off here but think he and the heavyweight division get exposed and shown how weak it is.

derfderf

ricero wrote: »

Cracking card and the 4 lads in the main and co-main are absolute gents would be happy to see any of them win.

I want all four to win somehow.

Planemo

Holloway out with a concussion (can't link on mobile). I just don't get excited for fights anymore, **** like this happens way too often.

Fromvert

Holloway via KO/TKO

****s sake I hate the week of a fight. Never be excited for a fight!

Paully D

Ortega via KO/TKO

3 times this year that Holloway has been pulled from a card - 222, 223 and now this.

At least the main event is still on (as of now!) and is an amazing fight but man, what a disappointment, as ****ing usual.

Mellor

Bisping called it

https://twitter.com/i/status/1014708930545504256

Zero-Cool

Ortega via Decision

Usually would be going mad that another fight was off but I just hope Max is ok. His team released a statement, hard to wake, flashing vision, blurred speech, sounds bad.

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1014703749225476096?s=19

Whelo79

Such **** news to wake up to. Puts a big dent in the card. I doubt there will be any i late replacement for this one.

Autecher

Whelo79 wrote: »

Such **** news to wake up to. Puts a big dent in the card. I doubt there will be any i late replacement for this one.

Ortega's team have already said unless the replacement is for a title they are not interested. I'd say Lewis - Ngannou will be co-main now.

Planemo

Planemo wrote: »

Holloway out with a concussion (can't link on mobile). I just don't get excited for fights anymore, **** like this happens way too often.

To add to this, they are talking about concussion-like symptoms. They're not currently saying it's a concussion or that he suffered a concussion during training. Could be something else entirely.

evil_seed

drugs? alcohol? he seemed to be a bit slurry with his speech on embedded

Zero-Cool

Ortega via Decision

Tad insensitive

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/1014793133274480640?s=19

ricero

Ortega via Decision

Not surprising Kavanagh lost all his class years ago.

Although i was buzzing to see Holloway vs Ortega i am delighted its cancelled as i want to see both men 100 per cent. I reckon they could move it to ufc 227 next month or 228 in September.

tommyboy26

Holloway via Submission

max is an unbelievable fighter and i was looking forward to that fight more than anything else on the card and i wasnt surprised he still wanted to fight but it was the right decision by his team not too let him. if it is anything concussion like he is better off not fighting cause he is a young guy and he needs to think about his long term health.

Useful.Idiot

Ortega via KO/TKO

ricero wrote: »

Although i was buzzing to see Holloway vs Ortega i am delighted its cancelled as i want to see both men 100 per cent. I reckon they could move it to ufc 227 next month or 228 in September.

Depending on the doctor's orders Max could be out a bit longer. The brutal weight cuts, the no doubt hard sparring and his reliance on his chin isn't doing well for his brain at his young age. A long lay-off vacating the belt could be wise.

Paully D

Ortega via KO/TKO

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Tad insensitive

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/1014793133274480640?s=19

Did he comment on James Gallagher being forced to withdraw from his last two fights?

Kavanagh is a prat.