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Jailed for putting up a Racist Sticker Political Correctness gone mad

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    #92
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    robp wrote: »
    The posters concerned here are not far right, nor is anyone saying "close the Mosques", "ban the Quran", "deport them".

    ...except the OP, who has called for Islam to be banned.


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    #93
    FTA69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    robp wrote: »
    The posters concerned here are not far right, nor is anyone saying "close the Mosques", "ban the Quran", "deport them".

    Some are. And if someone is advocating support for a banned violent neo-Nazi organisation's right to put up posters then what would you call them?

    Likewise the far right across Europe are advocating banning Islamic face coverings, the Quran and advocating deportation while simultaneously claiming they want free speech.


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    #94
    jim salter
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭jim salter


    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    Could be worse.

    Putting a rasher on a mosque door handle gets the death sentence.

    Even turkey rashers???


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    #95
    robp
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,934 ✭✭✭robp


    Odhinn wrote: »
    robp wrote: »
    The posters concerned here are not far right, nor is anyone saying "close the Mosques", "ban the Quran", "deport them".

    ...except the OP, who has called for Islam to be banned.
    If that is true fair enough but the fast majority of people look for more free speech are not. Very very few people want to ban Islam and the only examples of such anti Muslim restrictions being realised were in leftie regimes such as in France and previously Turkey.


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    #96
    robp
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    robp wrote: »
    The posters concerned here are not far right, nor is anyone saying "close the Mosques", "ban the Quran", "deport them".

    Some are. And if someone is advocating support for a banned violent neo-Nazi organisation's right to put up posters then what would you call them?

    Likewise the far right across Europe are advocating banning Islamic face coverings, the Quran and advocating deportation while simultaneously claiming they want free speech.
    If these 'dangerous' people are so real then we will all see them for what they are. The reality is people are well able to think for themselves and the far right pose no real threat of expanding significantly anywhere in Western Europe and probably all of Europe. The IRA is a banned organisation yet pro IRA t shirts are sold on Sinn Fein's website. Why aren't you push for banning that too? We need a constitutional article for protection of free speech.


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    #97
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    jim salter wrote: »
    Even turkey rashers???

    No such thing as turkey rashers infidel!!!


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    #98
    Sofiztikated
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    robp wrote: »
    We need a constitutional article for protection of free speech.

    Article 40.6.1 says hello.


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    #99
    jim salter
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭jim salter


    wexie wrote: »
    No such thing as turkey rashers infidel!!!

    Turkey Rashers


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    #100
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    jim salter wrote: »
    Turkey Rashers

    Those things are kinda the reverse of some of the posters here.

    Turkey rashers claiming to be something they aren't.

    The posters claiming they're not something they are

    In both cases it's lies


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    #101
    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,322 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Turkey rashers are alright on a bagel. Big of spinach, some melted cheese. You could do worse.


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    #102
    Dr Brown
    Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Why is it you think nazis should have freedom of speech, but not muslims?




    I have never heard of Muslims being jailed for putting up stickers.


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    #103
    Dr Brown
    Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Birneybau wrote: »
    Would a sticker saying 'Kill All Jews/Dubs/Irish/Whites/Men/Women/Whatever you are yourself' just be a sticker?

    Cop on




    From the reports none of those stickers put up called for violence.


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    #104
    Dr Brown
    Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Odhinn wrote: »
    ...except the OP, who has called for Islam to be banned.


    Absolutely given that Islam is responsible for mass rape and almost daily terrorism we need stop it getting a foot hold in Ireland.

    But that does not mean shutting down freedom of speech.


    We need a better Immigration policy to deal with the problem of Islam.


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    #105
    Stephen15
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    Dr Brown wrote: »
    I have never heard of Muslims being jailed for putting up stickers.

    No arrests made for enforcing Sharia Law. Anjem Choudary is out this year too free to hate preach while Tommy is denied the right to speak the truth.

    Geert Wilders summed it up he said that he doesn't support banning books since Mein Kampf got banned in the Netherlands which was applauded by the left then so should the Qur'an which is equally as hateful however the left have put their usual tags on him such as Islamphobe and a Racist even though a phobia is irrational fear and it's perfectly rational to fear a 7th century ideology which wants global dominance and Islam is not a race.


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    #106
    Nettle Soup
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Nettle Soup


    Ipso wrote: »
    It may be old but should it be illegal?
    White supremacists are knobs, but making martyrs of them won’t help.
    The next time a bunch of grown men lose the plot over a Satanic Verses or cartoon, will they be jailed?

    Martyrs die.


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    #107
    LaChatteGitane
    Registered Users Posts: 790 ✭✭✭LaChatteGitane


    Sofiztikated wrote: »
    Or we could just not slag them on their appearance.

    Seriously though, if it was a bunch of young wans, complete with blue hair and feminist slogans, or blacks lads with Black Lives Matter banners, people would call out people slagging them based on what they look like.

    So either slag noone, or slag everyone.

    I'm in no way defending these fools, before anyone even thinks I am.

    Ach, chill !
    I am the last person on earth who would slag people off or laugh at anyone's appearance. These fools however ? You do know what the supremacy stands for, I presume.
    We could talk about their intellect, but that would be a non starter.:pac:


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    #108
    FingerDeKat
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    The Ghost Train wrote: »
    Good to see the Brit cops go after the thought criminals. Be nice if they would do something about the Pakistani rape gangs but oh well, can't have everything.
    88HH:rolleyes::rolleyes:


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    #109
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    I have never heard of Muslims being jailed for putting up stickers.
    Dr Brown wrote:
    Islam is a VERY dangerous religion and should be banned. IMO.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=106897139&postcount=1498

    Dr Brown wrote:
    Absolutely given that Islam is responsible for mass rape and almost daily terrorism we need stop it getting a foot hold in Ireland.

    But that does not mean shutting down freedom of speech.

    Banning Islam means you shut down freedom of speech.


    Dr Brown wrote:
    While I don't support this group I think everyone should have the right to freedom of speech.

    Evidently "everyone" extends to racist far right members of a banned organisation but not over a billion members of a religion you have no time for.


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    #110
    Stephen15
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    Odhinn wrote: »
    Banning Islam means you shut down freedom of speech.

    Evidently "everyone" extends to racist far right members of a banned organisation but not over a billion members of a religion you have no time for.

    It's quite simple either ban Facism and Islam or don't ban either. Both preach hate


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    #111
    eyerer
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    Hapax Legomenon wrote: »
    Dr Brown wrote: »
    This week it was  "white supremacists" who were jailed for their political beliefs next time it could be UKIP supporters.

    "First they came for the white supremacists, and I spoke out. Because I am also a white supremacist."
    Brilliant, laughed out loud :D


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    #112
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    It's quite simple either ban Facism and Islam or don't ban either. Both preach hate

    Islam as a term - much like "protestantism" - covers a vast multitude of views.


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    #113
    Zebra3
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    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    Whenever someone claims Tommy Robinson to be a racist they never provide a direct quote to substantiate their claim, but I've great faith in you, you're going to be different and post a racist quote attributed to the guy from a reputable source.

    He’s a self-proclaimed Zionist. Zionism is a political ideology that native Palestinians should be ethnically cleansed from their homeland to make way for foreigners.

    He’s also a supporter of the British army, one of the leading fanatically racist terrorist organisations over the last 200-300 years.


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    #114
    Zebra3
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    Dr Brown wrote: »
    Absolutely given that Islam is responsible for mass rape and almost daily terrorism we need stop it getting a foot hold in Ireland.

    But that does not mean shutting down freedom of speech.


    We need a better Immigration policy to deal with the problem of Islam.

    Would you support the proscribing of the RC Church as well as FF/FG/Labour who all facilitated their terror?


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    #115
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Islam as a term - much like "protestantism" - covers a vast multitude of views.

    So you can have a 'Moderate Muslim' but you can't have a 'Moderate Facist'. Muslims interpret the Qur'an to suit their beliefs so can Fascists interpret Mein Kampf to suit their beliefs and views


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    #116
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    You guys and your white identity. Does it ever get old?.

    Its not our fault that we are clearly superior in every way.


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    #117
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Nah we just point out that he was in the BNP and supports Generation Identity, whereupon people like you trot out some mad excuse as to how he was a member of and current supporter of racist organisations.

    You don't find it highly unusual that for such a supposed racist with incredibly detailed social media history, you can't mine a single quote from his past that would prove him to be racist?


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    #118
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    You don't find it highly unusual that for such a supposed racist with incredibly detailed social media history, you can't mine a single quote from his past that would prove him to be racist?

    I grew up in the UK in the 70's. Where my great grandmother lived they built a new estate and several black families moved into the area. My great grandmother never ever used a racist term about them but would cross the street if she seen a black person walking towards her.

    She would refer to them as the foreigners or just "them from over the road" and at one point refuse to use her local post office because a black woman got a job there.

    To me she was a racist because of her beliefs even though she never used racist language. Tommy Robinson is of the same mindset. You don't have to publicly use racist language to be a racist.


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    #119
    FTA69
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    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    You don't find it highly unusual that for such a supposed racist with incredibly detailed social media history, you can't mine a single quote from his past that would prove him to be racist?

    So why is he supporting Generation Identity if he doesn’t agree with their beliefs? An organisation which wants to repatriate non-whites?

    It’s gas like, cos no video exists of him jumping up and down shouting about blacks or whatever you’re prepared to ignore his political support for very blatant racist organisations as if it never happened or if it isn’t happening.


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    #120
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Zionism is a political ideology that native Palestinians should be ethnically cleansed from their homeland to make way for foreigners.

    In the current state of Israel which has existed for almost a century, who are the natives in your hypothesis? And who are the foreigners? Is one who was born in Israel to parents who were also born in Israel not "native" in your eyes if they happen to be Jewish.

    Ethnic cleansing is all too real when one only looks at the decimation of Jewish peoples throughout every middle eastern nation over the past century, whilst in Israel, 1,500,000 of the population are Muslims with equal rights and opportunites.


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    #121
    SnakePlissken
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    An organisation which wants to repatriate non-whites?.

    Can you provide a reputable source for this claim please?

    It's just I don't see this mentioned anywhere on their website.


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