Boycotting Paddy Power over Russia scoring fiasco.

paleoperson

I'm boycotting Paddy Power due to them donating of €10,000 for each goal scored by Russia to "LGBTQ rights".

It's just such a bad move, and in such bad faith.

Keep football out of politics. I'm well aware of the claims made by a lot of western media about Russia discriminating against LGBTQ groups. But on further investigation, in my opinion, they're not warranted. For example the "people should not give propaganda and advice to children about non-traditional sexual relations" - what is wrong with that? Maybe they should bring it in Ireland. I also agree with their stance against highly sexualised parades in main streets. Otherwise LGBTQ persons are treated well there and are not persecuted.

I think a lot of these LGBTQ groups are more like hate groups these days and would not support that. Maybe some of them do some good and actually help LGBTQ groups in some ways, however a lot of the time they are trying to push for things beyond that.

Another thing is the arrogance of Paddy Power to try to enter their political opinion like this. Even if you were doing something I agreed with it's very strange for a profit-making bookmaker to do it and I would not agree with doing this "twist". I would not agree with donating money to a nudist rights group every time Saudi Arabia scores even though I highly agree with nudist rights.

Why don't they just donate a few thousand euro to starving children? That's a much more noble cause than privileged first-worlders having to twist things to try to show discrimination that is either small or not there.

vicwatson

Maybe keep politics out of football?

Outlaw Pete

You've just mentioned them in a thread title on Boards and so the real reason they did it, for promotional reasons, is working.

gctest50

paleoperson wrote: »

I'm boycotting Paddy Power due to them donating of €10,000 for each goal scored by Russia to "LGBTQ rights".

It's just such a bad move, and in such bad faith.

Keep football out of politics. I'm well aware of the claims made by a lot of western media about Russia discriminating against LGBTQ groups. But on further investigation, in my opinion, they're not warranted. For example the "people should not give propaganda and advice to children about non-traditional sexual relations" - what is wrong with that? Maybe they should bring it in Ireland. I also agree with their stance against highly sexualised parades in main streets. Otherwise LGBTQ persons are treated well there and are not persecuted.

I think a lot of these LGBTQ groups are more like hate groups these days and would not support that. Maybe some of them do some good and actually help LGBTQ groups in some ways, however a lot of the time they are trying to push for things beyond that.

Another thing is the arrogance of Paddy Power to try to enter their political opinion like this. Even if you were doing something I agreed with it's very strange for a profit-making bookmaker to do it and I would not agree with doing this "twist". I would not agree with donating money to a nudist rights group every time Saudi Arabia scores even though I highly agree with nudist rights.

Why don't they just donate a few thousand euro to starving children? That's a much more noble cause than privileged first-worlders having to twist things to try to show discrimination that is either small or not there.

Butthurt ?

Ipso

paleoperson wrote: »

I'm boycotting Paddy Power due to them donating of €10,000 for each goal scored by Russia to "LGBTQ rights".

It's just such a bad move, and in such bad faith.

Keep football out of politics. I'm well aware of the claims made by a lot of western media about Russia discriminating against LGBTQ groups. But on further investigation, in my opinion, they're not warranted. For example the "people should not give propaganda and advice to children about non-traditional sexual relations" - what is wrong with that? Maybe they should bring it in Ireland. I also agree with their stance against highly sexualised parades in main streets. Otherwise LGBTQ persons are treated well there and are not persecuted.

I think a lot of these LGBTQ groups are more like hate groups these days and would not support that. Maybe some of them do some good and actually help LGBTQ groups in some ways, however a lot of the time they are trying to push for things beyond that.

Another thing is the arrogance of Paddy Power to try to enter their political opinion like this. Even if you were doing something I agreed with it's very strange for a profit-making bookmaker to do it and I would not agree with doing this "twist". I would not agree with donating money to a nudist rights group every time Saudi Arabia scores even though I highly agree with nudist rights.

Why don't they just donate a few thousand euro to starving children? That's a much more noble cause than privileged first-worlders having to twist things to try to show discrimination that is either small or not there.

Well the Saudi's love the ghey, too. So it's win, win (unless you mean the game).

kneemos

LGBTQI.

Berserker

kneemos wrote: »

LGBTQI+.

Fixed your post. Need to keep these things up to date.

paleoperson

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

You've just mentioned them in a thread title on Boards and so the real reason they did it, worked.

Some things are so bad that the "all publicity is good publicity" saying doesn't hold. It also wasn't some last minute idea that seemed good the night before, they apparently had multiple meetings over it. It's baffling how they gave the go-ahead to it.

Ipso wrote: »

Well the Saudi's love the ghey, too. So it's win, win (unless you mean the game).

It's the principle of it, and the arrogance of Paddy Power to think they know best.

Ipso

Shouldn't there be an A there, also?

Peregrine

That's a brilliant idea. €10,000 could do a lot of good. I didn't know they were doing this. I haven't used my Paddy Power account in ages but I might log in now and give them custom. Thanks for letting me know, OP.

mikemac2

People who never knew about this get to read it now

You may not like PP’s marketing OP but now you are helping them

Arthur Daley

Here here OP. it's time to give it a bloody rest now and enjoy the football.

markc1184

€50k up. Good start.

pleas advice

paleoperson wrote: »

Why don't they just donate a few thousand euro to starving children? That's a much more noble cause than privileged first-worlders having to twist things to try to show discrimination that is either small or not there.

https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/mastercard-put-its-foot-in-its-mouth-with-world-cup-childrens-meals-campaign/

Subcomandante Marcos

paleoperson wrote: »

I'm boycotting Paddy Power due to them donating of €10,000 for each goal scored by Russia to "LGBTQ rights".

It's just such a bad move, and in such bad faith.

Keep football out of politics. I'm well aware of the claims made by a lot of western media about Russia discriminating against LGBTQ groups. But on further investigation, in my opinion, they're not warranted. For example the "people should not give propaganda and advice to children about non-traditional sexual relations" - what is wrong with that? Maybe they should bring it in Ireland. I also agree with their stance against highly sexualised parades in main streets. Otherwise LGBTQ persons are treated well there and are not persecuted.

I think a lot of these LGBTQ groups are more like hate groups these days and would not support that. Maybe some of them do some good and actually help LGBTQ groups in some ways, however a lot of the time they are trying to push for things beyond that.

Another thing is the arrogance of Paddy Power to try to enter their political opinion like this. Even if you were doing something I agreed with it's very strange for a profit-making bookmaker to do it and I would not agree with doing this "twist". I would not agree with donating money to a nudist rights group every time Saudi Arabia scores even though I highly agree with nudist rights.

Why don't they just donate a few thousand euro to starving children? That's a much more noble cause than privileged first-worlders having to twist things to try to show discrimination that is either small or not there.

Why do you hate gay people?

Pherekydes

Gambol responsibly.

:pac:

Franz Von Peppercorn

Is the donation because Russia is scored against the medieval theocracy of Saudi Arabia. That’s nice.

kneemos

Ipso wrote: »

Shouldn't there be an A there, also?

LGBTQI+A.

KaiserLu

Let’s not forget that Paddy Power have adopted this ‘shur it’s only a birra craic’ schtick since about 2001 for one reason and one reason only: to lure younger people into the gambling market earlier. In fifty years’ time we’ll be wondering how we allowed bookies to advertise at all.

I wouldn’t get behind anything a bookmaker fronts, it’s only to normalize gambling that destroys many people’s lives.

Any bookmaker would go through his own mother for a euro- an absolute shower.

wylo

PP have once again pulled it out of the bag with their provocative marketing.


They always do things that are just almost "too far" but never really is.


The reality is the vast majority of their custom base and potential custom base would not be offended by this. In fact they would think its cool for whatever random reasons.



Personally I do find this idea a little bit weird. It would be nicer if they did something that maybe helped people in desperate need.


But once again that is Paddy Power and its how they operate and its why they are establishing a name for themselves far beyond Ireland and UK. They do not like to be considered the "good guys", they like to be considered the bad, but not sooooo bad guys.

Franz Von Peppercorn

kneemos wrote: »

LGBTQI+A.

*cough* + at the end *cough*

wexie

kneemos wrote: »

LGBTQI+A.

It's PearsonVue that do the exams for that no?

Fighting Tao

What odds would PP give on the OP being one of the 37.9% of the voting electorate against SSM in 2015?

How Soon Is Now

Load of ****e.

If they where gonna bother there arse doing something like this why not donate to homeless people or some kinda cancer research or something worthwhile.

I guess theres no better way to win people over these days then helping out one the ''minority's'' though.

Fighting Tao

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Load of ****e.

If they where gonna bother there arse doing something like this why not donate to homeless people or some kinda cancer research or something worthwhile.

I guess theres no better way to win people over these days then helping out one the ''minority's'' though.

This was Channel 4’s response to Russia hosting the Winter Olympics. There is a common theme for a reason.

VinLieger

paleoperson wrote: »

I'm boycotting Paddy Power due to them donating of €10,000 for each goal scored by Russia to "LGBTQ rights".

It's just such a bad move, and in such bad faith.

Keep football out of politics. I'm well aware of the claims made by a lot of western media about Russia discriminating against LGBTQ groups. But on further investigation, in my opinion, they're not warranted. For example the "people should not give propaganda and advice to children about non-traditional sexual relations" - what is wrong with that? Maybe they should bring it in Ireland. I also agree with their stance against highly sexualised parades in main streets. Otherwise LGBTQ persons are treated well there and are not persecuted.

I think a lot of these LGBTQ groups are more like hate groups these days and would not support that. Maybe some of them do some good and actually help LGBTQ groups in some ways, however a lot of the time they are trying to push for things beyond that.

Another thing is the arrogance of Paddy Power to try to enter their political opinion like this. Even if you were doing something I agreed with it's very strange for a profit-making bookmaker to do it and I would not agree with doing this "twist". I would not agree with donating money to a nudist rights group every time Saudi Arabia scores even though I highly agree with nudist rights.

Why don't they just donate a few thousand euro to starving children? That's a much more noble cause than privileged first-worlders having to twist things to try to show discrimination that is either small or not there.

Let me guess you cant be a homophobe cus youve got gay friends?

If it walks and quacks like a duck but has gay friends its still deffinitely a homophobic duck

oneilla

paleoperson wrote: »

I think a lot of these LGBTQ groups are more like hate groups these days and would not support that

Wtf did I just read!?

El Tarangu

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Load of ****e.

If they where gonna bother there arse doing something like this why not donate to homeless people or some kinda cancer research or something worthwhile.

I guess theres no better way to win people over these days then helping out one the ''minority's'' though.

Why don't *you* donate your money to those causes if *you* want to, and let paddy power donate their money to the gays if that's how they want to spend it.

everlast75

Jesus Christ.

If they wanna donate money to a gay rights cause then let them ffs.

You think they should donate it to another charity, just because you find some other more worthy OP?

I donate to 3 animal rights charities monthly. I'm sorry i didn't consult with you before i started. Can you let me know the hierarchy in play please?

Here is an idea - how about you donate your money to whatever charity you wanna donate to and stop criticising others for doing what they want to do?

ohnonotgmail

everlast75 wrote: »

Jesus Christ.

If they wanna donate money to a gay rights cause then let them ffs.

You think they should donate it to another charity, just because you find some other more worthy OP?

I donate to 3 animal rights charities monthly. I'm sorry i didn't consult with you before i started. Can you let me know the hierarchy in play please?

Here is an idea - how about you donate your money to whatever charity you wanna donate to and stop criticising others for doing what they want to do?

It is a bold idea i grant you but it lacks the possibility for indignant outrage. I cant see it catching on.

begbysback

the_syco

paleoperson wrote: »

For example the "people should not give propaganda and advice to children about non-traditional sexual relations" - what is wrong with that?

So you're homophobic? Explains the hate.

bilbot79

What a load of overkill

How Soon Is Now

El Tarangu wrote: »

Why don't *you* donate your money to those causes if *you* want to, and let paddy power donate their money to the gays if that's how they want to spend it.

This isnt about donating money to charity its about getting positive attention and public approval.

The amount of money betting company's make do you think they give a **** about handing over 50k to a random charity especially this type?

What bothers me about this and why i laughed at it when i seen it online yesterday was because this is exactly what scores points with so many people now a days. Everyone knows well what goes on in Russia and these other country's towards certain groups of people.

So it comes across as this great amazing forward thinking gesture by Paddy Power against the evil gay hating Russia...

If i was trying to win a popularity contest or a vote these days sure all id have to do is mention or side with one of these LGBT bla bla groups or something feminine orientated in general and certain people would lap it up.

Its that easy.

But sure anyway....

Odhinn

paleoperson wrote: »

I'm boycotting Paddy Power due to them donating of €10,000 for each goal scored by Russia to "LGBTQ rights".

It's just such a bad move, and in such bad faith.

Keep football out of politics. I'm well aware of the claims made by a lot of western media about Russia discriminating against LGBTQ groups. But on further investigation, in my opinion, they're not warranted. For example the "people should not give propaganda and advice to children about non-traditional sexual relations" - what is wrong with that?.

Some of the kids being gay fer one. Teaching other kids to be tolerant of them for another.

paleoperson wrote: »

I think a lot of these LGBTQ groups are more like hate groups these days and would not support that. Maybe some of them do some good and actually help LGBTQ groups in some ways, however a lot of the time they are trying to push for things beyond that.

Such as?

TheValeyard

Hehehehe

Ten of Swords

paleoperson wrote: »

I'm well aware of the claims made by a lot of western media about Russia discriminating against LGBTQ groups. But on further investigation, in my opinion, they're not warranted...


...Otherwise LGBTQ persons are treated well there and are not persecuted

Well, you're obviously an expert on the matter so that's me convinced :rolleyes:

Edgarfrndly

paleoperson wrote: »

I'm well aware of the claims made by a lot of western media about Russia discriminating against LGBTQ groups. But on further investigation, in my opinion, they're not warranted.

Hahahahahahahahahaaha.

Delusional.

paleoperson

Edgarfrndly wrote: »

Hahahahahahahahahaaha.

Delusional.

Give any example that would not also happen in the US or UK.

Odhinn wrote: »

Such as?

Being offered jobs to prove "diversification" and being harder to fire is one of the things people like that are trying to get. Celebrating their sexuality... why can't I obscenely celebrate my heterosexuality in public? And so on.

Peregrine

Peregrine wrote: »

That's a brilliant idea. €10,000 could do a lot of good. I didn't know they were doing this. I haven't used my Paddy Power account in ages but I might log in now and give them custom. Thanks for letting me know, OP.

Russia won 5-0 today. €50,000 in the kitty. That's great!

paleoperson

pleas advice wrote: »

https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/mastercard-put-its-foot-in-its-mouth-with-world-cup-childrens-meals-campaign/

This is why it's so wrong even without a political motive.

What about the poor defenders and goalkeepers whose sole job is to keep out goals? Are they going to be responsible if some kids aren't fed? A similar situation for those defending against Russia. It's so ill thought out.

JupiterKid

So what if Paddy Power want to donate towards what I consider to be a good cause, fighting against homophobic hatred in Putin’s intolerant, corrupt Russia?


OP - If you don’t like what PP are doing, then just don’t bet with them. Simples. Just get with another bookies if it bothers you that much. Likewise, no one is forcing you to participate in a gay pride event. Grow up.

Stench of homophobia from the OP is very obvious...

Ten of Swords

paleoperson wrote: »

Give any example that would not also happen in the US or UK.

I could be wrong but I don't think the US or UK state authorities round up and imprison gay men in concentration camps?

Anthracite

Getting pretty tired of right-wing snowflakes getting offended about anything that doesn't fit their PC world view.

Edgarfrndly

paleoperson wrote: »

Give any example that would not also happen in the US or UK.

Gay people in the UK and the US can get married and have it legally recognised. In Russia, not even civil partnership is recognised.

There is no legal barrier to kids being educated about tolerance towards the LGBT community in the UK or US. In Russia, there is a nationwide blanket ban on education about anything pertaining to the LGBT community to minors.

In Chechnya, with full support of Vladimir Putin - Ramzan Kadyrov is leading mass crackdowns on the LGBT community, leading to abductions, beatings and murders.

The list is endless and you're out of your mind if you don't see there is huge issues with gay rights in Russia.

paleoperson

Ten of Swords wrote: »

I could be wrong but I don't think the US or UK state authorities round up and imprison gay men in concentration camps?

You know one of the biggest disadvantages of posting online is that when someone says something so knowingly stupid and so knowingly wrong that you can't blow them out of it. So you get people that will make posts like this.

BabyCheeses

Fighting Tao wrote: »

What odds would PP give on the OP being one of the 37.9% of the voting electorate against SSM in 2015?

Probably wouldn't be worth putting money on it.


https://www.boards.ie/search/submit/?user=705501&thread=2057426700&sort=best&date_to=&date_from=&query=%2A%3A%2A&page=1


Who would have thought person who is ok with beating gay people is against them being treated equally.

Edgarfrndly

paleoperson wrote: »

You know one of the biggest disadvantages of posting online is that when someone says something so knowingly stupid and so knowingly wrong that you can't blow them out of it. So you get people that will make posts like this.

What he said is a documented fact and happens in Chechnya on a regular basis. And you're not blowing anyone out of anything. You're one of these people who blows hot air but isn't actually educated about anything.

suicide_circus

They should probably direct the money towards gamblers charities who help the people who destroy their lives using paddy powers services.

Heebie

paleoperson wrote:

Some things are so bad that the "all publicity is good publicity" saying doesn't hold. It also wasn't some last minute idea that seemed good the night before, they apparently had multiple meetings over it. It's baffling how they gave the go-ahead to it.

They have gay employees. People just like their gay employees (and just like me) are simply vanishing, and some of them are turning up murdered, some never show up.
The police in Russia be look the other way of someone like me is murdered or beaten into a coma.

Fair play to Paddy Power for calling them out, and I hope their decision to "use" Russia's atrocious human rights record to make money and a statement about hate at the same time.

Ten of Swords

paleoperson wrote: »

You know one of the biggest disadvantages of posting online is that when someone says something so knowingly stupid and so knowingly wrong that you can't blow them out of it. So you get people that will make posts like this.

Tell me the 'knowingly wrong' part please, I'm dying to hear this