Should President Trump be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize?

DickSwiveller · 12-06-2018 10:41am #1

Given that Obama got it for nothing, should Trump now be awarded the Peace Prize on account of the great work he's done tempering little Rocket Man?

testicles · 12-06-2018 10:42am

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Sonics2k · 12-06-2018 10:45am

Trump deserves it as much as Obama did. Not at all.

The meeting between N. Korea and S. Korea is the result of years of negotiations between both countries, Swedish ambassadors, China.

Sure, Kim finally backed down and agreed to the meeting because of Trump, but that's only out of survival because we all know Trump is mental enough to actually blow up North Korea.

ancapailldorcha · 12-06-2018 10:47am

DickSwiveller wrote: »

Given that Obama got it for nothing, should Trump now be awarded the Peace Prize on account of the great work he's done tempering little Rocket Man?

You mean giving Kim Jong-un what he wanted and getting nothing in return? Great work that was, alright.

Danzy · 12-06-2018 10:47am

He deserves consideration and is as viable a pick as many who have received it.

Nice to have a a U.S. President who Is not always bomb,bomb,bomb.

A change is welcome,the Peace President, relatively speaking.

Danzy · 12-06-2018 10:50am

Sonics2k wrote: »

Sure, Kim finally backed down and agreed to the meeting because of Trump, but that's only out of survival because we all know Trump is mental enough to actually blow up North Korea.

Agreed, Trump left Kim in no doubt peaceful settlement was his only hope to survive.

DickSwiveller · 12-06-2018 10:50am

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

You mean giving Kim Jong-un what he wanted and getting nothing in return? Great work that was, alright.

Oh come on Anchapaill. Surely a denuclearised North Korea is good for everyone.

Hande hoche! · 12-06-2018 10:53am

If the end result is a Korean peninsula free of nuclear weapons, he may be a strong candidate.

Pelvis · 12-06-2018 10:54am

DickSwiveller wrote: »

Oh come on Anchapaill. Surely a denuclearised North Korea is good for everyone.

Except that will never happen.

Sonics2k · 12-06-2018 10:56am

Hande hoche! wrote: »

If the end result is a Korean peninsula free of nuclear weapons, he may be a strong candidate.

Yup, never mind the mass starvation, imprisonment, slavery and all the other atrocities that happen in North Korea, so long as aul Kimmy stops -trying- to build a missile.

Berserker · 12-06-2018 10:56am

If he continues in this manner then he has to be a strong candidate for it. Wonder if he'll get the freedom of Dublin like Obama did?

Sonics2k wrote: »

Yup, never mind the mass starvation, imprisonment, slavery and all the other atrocities that happen in North Korea, so long as aul Kimmy stops -trying- to build a missile.

It's a start, isn't it?

RDM_83 again · 12-06-2018 10:56am

DickSwiveller wrote: »

Oh come on Anchapaill. Surely a denuclearised North Korea is good for everyone.

Remember can't let the partisanship ever let up!

Trump is a pretty poor president but convincing N Korea that the consequences of not playing ball were serious was the right move, it need to be done now and not ignored as the dynamic would have changed utterly if they had reliable warheads and missiles able to reach California.

DickSwiveller · 12-06-2018 10:58am

Sonics2k wrote: »

Yup, never mind the mass starvation, imprisonment, slavery and all the other atrocities that happen in North Korea, so long as aul Kimmy stops -trying- to build a missile.

Trump isn't Amnesty International. He can't do much about the North Korean Peoples' plight.

brainfreeze · 12-06-2018 10:59am

Danzy wrote: »

He deserves consideration and is as viable a pick as many who have received it.

Nice to have a a U.S. President who Is not always bomb,bomb,bomb.

A change is welcome,the Peace President, relatively speaking.

In case it's not sarcasm: Trump is dropping bombs. He even brags about shooting missiles on his twitter.

Trump is dropping more bombs at a yearly rate higher than Obamas. Even only six months into his term.

Under Trump, the United States has dropped about 20,650 bombs through July 31, or 80 percent the number dropped under Obama for the entirety of 2016. At this rate, Trump will exceed Obama’s last-year total by Labor Day.

People are not paying attention to this because he does mental stuff on a weekly basis, it distracts them.

ricero · 12-06-2018 10:59am

The Donald = GOAT president

Danzy · 12-06-2018 11:00am

Sonics2k wrote: »

Yup, never mind the mass starvation, imprisonment, slavery and all the other atrocities that happen in North Korea, so long as aul Kimmy stops -trying- to build a missile.

The only thing to change that is an invasion, will your lordship be first in to battle?

A normalized relationship between North Korea and the rest of the world,where it is not on some Maoist plan to rape its people to push for weapons is a help as well.

Duck Soup · 12-06-2018 11:12am

During Trump's short but entertaining reign, North Korea has increased its nuclear capabilities and conceded nothing in relation to its nuclear program.

Trump has promised to cease joint US-South Korean military exercises which is going down like a cup of cold vomit in Seoul.

If we're going to give Trump a Nobel Peace prize for nothing on the grounds that Obama got a Nobel Peace prize for nothing, i would suggest far more deserving candidates who have done nothing to deserve it: Jim Davidson, Charlotte Crosby, Alex Jones, Emmylou Harris, Merv Hughes, Morwenna Banks, Noel Edmunds or Dr. Strangelove.

ancapailldorcha · 12-06-2018 11:19am

DickSwiveller wrote: »

Oh come on Anchapaill. Surely a denuclearised North Korea is good for everyone.

There is no sign whatsoever that this is happening nor that Trump has anywhere near the requisite level of diplomatic savvy to make it happens. Then there's the fact that he's inherently untrustworthy, demonstrated most recently by pulling out of the Paris accords and the Iran deal so North Korea knows that anything he signs is automatically worthless.

kneemos · 12-06-2018 11:27am

May have been a play by the N Koreans all along.
Throw a few missiles about and sit down for a peace conference.

Apparently they have had a long term plan for modernisation for quite a while.

Hector Savage · 12-06-2018 11:32am

Trump should get it, the meltdown by all the mentally ill leftist regressive fools would be worth it ....

sabat · 12-06-2018 11:34am

This is all a Chinese play and he's walked right into it. The next stage will be another South Korean financial crisis caused by their household debt bubble blowing up and a mass cryptocurrency collapse. Enter China as the saviours/asset strippers to become the dominant power on the peninsula. Taiwan and Japan should be very worried seeing 70 years of US policy in the Asia Pacific region flushed down the toilet.

Berserker · 12-06-2018 11:45am

Danzy wrote: »

The only thing to change that is an invasion, will your lordship be first in to battle?

If it's an online battle, there'll be plenty of keyboard warriors ready and willing.

kneemos wrote: »

Apparently they have had a long term plan for modernisation for quite a while.

Pyongyang has been modernizing since Kim Jong Un took the reigns but the rest of the country is in a dreadful state. Countless defectors have confirmed this.

Dohnjoe · 12-06-2018 11:53am

North Korea has been playing the "ratchet up tensions" to gain concessions game for a long time. In the past decade the US, S Korea and increasingly China have been working together to put more pressure on them

I would say the nuclear dev was just too expensive, there are rumours part of the test facilities collapsed, and I would say that N Korea are taking advantage of a new US pres who they could get a better deal out of than the last

As for Trump, right time right place after decades of hard work by other groups and administrations

Ulysses Gaze · 12-06-2018 11:55am

If Obama won one for the sum of Sweet Fcuk All, then Trump deserves one.

weisses · 12-06-2018 11:57am

Sonics2k wrote: »

The meeting between N. Korea and S. Korea is the result of years of negotiations between both countries, Swedish ambassadors, China.

No .... Its the result of NK having nukes

RobertKK · 12-06-2018 12:05pm

We will only know in the future if Trump and Moon deserve the Nobel peace prize, would also add in Kim if he moved away from human rights abuses and opened up North Korea to freedoms we take for granted - as people wondered for decades how does one change North Korea from what it is now which is a brutal dictatorship into a benign dictatorship.