Should President Trump be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize?

DickSwiveller

Given that Obama got it for nothing, should Trump now be awarded the Peace Prize on account of the great work he's done tempering little Rocket Man?

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Sonics2k

Trump deserves it as much as Obama did. Not at all.

The meeting between N. Korea and S. Korea is the result of years of negotiations between both countries, Swedish ambassadors, China.

Sure, Kim finally backed down and agreed to the meeting because of Trump, but that's only out of survival because we all know Trump is mental enough to actually blow up North Korea.

ancapailldorcha

DickSwiveller wrote: »

Given that Obama got it for nothing, should Trump now be awarded the Peace Prize on account of the great work he's done tempering little Rocket Man?

You mean giving Kim Jong-un what he wanted and getting nothing in return? Great work that was, alright.

Danzy

He deserves consideration and is as viable a pick as many who have received it.

Nice to have a a U.S. President who Is not always bomb,bomb,bomb.

A change is welcome,the Peace President, relatively speaking.

Danzy

Sonics2k wrote: »

Sure, Kim finally backed down and agreed to the meeting because of Trump, but that's only out of survival because we all know Trump is mental enough to actually blow up North Korea.

Agreed, Trump left Kim in no doubt peaceful settlement was his only hope to survive.

DickSwiveller

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

You mean giving Kim Jong-un what he wanted and getting nothing in return? Great work that was, alright.

Oh come on Anchapaill. Surely a denuclearised North Korea is good for everyone.

Hande hoche!

If the end result is a Korean peninsula free of nuclear weapons, he may be a strong candidate.

Pelvis

DickSwiveller wrote: »

Oh come on Anchapaill. Surely a denuclearised North Korea is good for everyone.

Except that will never happen.

Sonics2k

Hande hoche! wrote: »

If the end result is a Korean peninsula free of nuclear weapons, he may be a strong candidate.

Yup, never mind the mass starvation, imprisonment, slavery and all the other atrocities that happen in North Korea, so long as aul Kimmy stops -trying- to build a missile.

Berserker

If he continues in this manner then he has to be a strong candidate for it. Wonder if he'll get the freedom of Dublin like Obama did?

Sonics2k wrote: »

Yup, never mind the mass starvation, imprisonment, slavery and all the other atrocities that happen in North Korea, so long as aul Kimmy stops -trying- to build a missile.

It's a start, isn't it?

RDM_83 again

DickSwiveller wrote: »

Oh come on Anchapaill. Surely a denuclearised North Korea is good for everyone.

Remember can't let the partisanship ever let up!

Trump is a pretty poor president but convincing N Korea that the consequences of not playing ball were serious was the right move, it need to be done now and not ignored as the dynamic would have changed utterly if they had reliable warheads and missiles able to reach California.

DickSwiveller

Sonics2k wrote: »

Yup, never mind the mass starvation, imprisonment, slavery and all the other atrocities that happen in North Korea, so long as aul Kimmy stops -trying- to build a missile.

Trump isn't Amnesty International. He can't do much about the North Korean Peoples' plight.

brainfreeze

Danzy wrote: »

He deserves consideration and is as viable a pick as many who have received it.

Nice to have a a U.S. President who Is not always bomb,bomb,bomb.

A change is welcome,the Peace President, relatively speaking.

In case it's not sarcasm: Trump is dropping bombs. He even brags about shooting missiles on his twitter.

Trump is dropping more bombs at a yearly rate higher than Obamas. Even only six months into his term.

Under Trump, the United States has dropped about 20,650 bombs through July 31, or 80 percent the number dropped under Obama for the entirety of 2016. At this rate, Trump will exceed Obama’s last-year total by Labor Day.

People are not paying attention to this because he does mental stuff on a weekly basis, it distracts them.

ricero

The Donald = GOAT president

Danzy

Sonics2k wrote: »

Yup, never mind the mass starvation, imprisonment, slavery and all the other atrocities that happen in North Korea, so long as aul Kimmy stops -trying- to build a missile.

The only thing to change that is an invasion, will your lordship be first in to battle?

A normalized relationship between North Korea and the rest of the world,where it is not on some Maoist plan to rape its people to push for weapons is a help as well.

Duck Soup

During Trump's short but entertaining reign, North Korea has increased its nuclear capabilities and conceded nothing in relation to its nuclear program.

Trump has promised to cease joint US-South Korean military exercises which is going down like a cup of cold vomit in Seoul.

If we're going to give Trump a Nobel Peace prize for nothing on the grounds that Obama got a Nobel Peace prize for nothing, i would suggest far more deserving candidates who have done nothing to deserve it: Jim Davidson, Charlotte Crosby, Alex Jones, Emmylou Harris, Merv Hughes, Morwenna Banks, Noel Edmunds or Dr. Strangelove.

ancapailldorcha

DickSwiveller wrote: »

Oh come on Anchapaill. Surely a denuclearised North Korea is good for everyone.

There is no sign whatsoever that this is happening nor that Trump has anywhere near the requisite level of diplomatic savvy to make it happens. Then there's the fact that he's inherently untrustworthy, demonstrated most recently by pulling out of the Paris accords and the Iran deal so North Korea knows that anything he signs is automatically worthless.

kneemos

May have been a play by the N Koreans all along.
Throw a few missiles about and sit down for a peace conference.

Apparently they have had a long term plan for modernisation for quite a while.

Hector Savage

Trump should get it, the meltdown by all the mentally ill leftist regressive fools would be worth it ....

sabat

This is all a Chinese play and he's walked right into it. The next stage will be another South Korean financial crisis caused by their household debt bubble blowing up and a mass cryptocurrency collapse. Enter China as the saviours/asset strippers to become the dominant power on the peninsula. Taiwan and Japan should be very worried seeing 70 years of US policy in the Asia Pacific region flushed down the toilet.

Berserker

Danzy wrote: »

The only thing to change that is an invasion, will your lordship be first in to battle?

If it's an online battle, there'll be plenty of keyboard warriors ready and willing.

kneemos wrote: »

Apparently they have had a long term plan for modernisation for quite a while.

Pyongyang has been modernizing since Kim Jong Un took the reigns but the rest of the country is in a dreadful state. Countless defectors have confirmed this.

Dohnjoe

North Korea has been playing the "ratchet up tensions" to gain concessions game for a long time. In the past decade the US, S Korea and increasingly China have been working together to put more pressure on them

I would say the nuclear dev was just too expensive, there are rumours part of the test facilities collapsed, and I would say that N Korea are taking advantage of a new US pres who they could get a better deal out of than the last

As for Trump, right time right place after decades of hard work by other groups and administrations

Ulysses Gaze

If Obama won one for the sum of Sweet Fcuk All, then Trump deserves one.

weisses

Sonics2k wrote: »

The meeting between N. Korea and S. Korea is the result of years of negotiations between both countries, Swedish ambassadors, China.

No .... Its the result of NK having nukes

RobertKK

We will only know in the future if Trump and Moon deserve the Nobel peace prize, would also add in Kim if he moved away from human rights abuses and opened up North Korea to freedoms we take for granted - as people wondered for decades how does one change North Korea from what it is now which is a brutal dictatorship into a benign dictatorship.

p to the e

If Henry Kissinger can win one then anyone can.

bubbles o hara

I love The Donald. He melts the heads of the haters.

zom

No. With people like Arafat, Al Gore, San Suu Kyi and Obama on the list, the award is meaningless.

Ken.

If Donald gets it they'd have to jointly award it to Kim also. Donald wasn't in the meeting alone.

riffmongous

Have people just completely forgotten about the whole Iran thing ? That was only a few weeks ago for feck sake

Hande hoche!

riffmongous wrote: »

Have people just completely forgotten about the whole Iran thing ? That was only a few weeks ago for feck sake

Such is life in the time of the Trump administration.

WinnyThePoo

riffmongous wrote: »

Have people just completely forgotten about the whole Iran thing ? That was only a few weeks ago for feck sake

They've forgotten about it already. They don't care, they just want to lick libtards tears from their mothers basement

MikeyTaylor

No and he's not a politician. He's a businessman.

alchemist33

riffmongous wrote: »

Have people just completely forgotten about the whole Iran thing ? That was only a few weeks ago for feck sake

Yes, that was more than one sleepy-nighty-snoozy-time ago so it didn't happen.

Billy86

Danzy wrote: »

He deserves consideration and is as viable a pick as many who have received it.

Nice to have a a U.S. President who Is not always bomb,bomb,bomb.

A change is welcome,the Peace President, relatively speaking.

Drone strikes have gone up since Trump took over, and by a lot - as in up to six times as many as there were previously in some places.

Strangely, all those people "ever so worried" about drone strikes in 2015 and 2016 no longer seem to give a sh*t?

Hande hoche!

Billy86 wrote: »

Drone strikes have gone up since Trump took over, and by a lot - as in up to six times as many as there were previously in some places.

Strangely, all those people "ever so worried" about drone strikes in 2015 and 2016 no longer seem to give a sh*t?

Usual politics at work, sadly. Drone strikes went up ten fold under Obama vs. Bush. Largely expect it at this stage.

Billy86

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Usual politics at work, sadly. Drone strikes went up ten fold under Obama vs. Bush. Largely expect it at this stage.

True enough, and to be honest I don't mind drone strikes going up on their own. Usually they are replacing soldiers in the ground as that technology becomes more readily available. I don't like them, but I also don't like boots on the ground or more traditional airstrikes etc.

But I do find it funny how it was such a huge issue for many (including many boardsies to the point if there being multiple threads on it in 2015 and 2016)... only to completely ignored as on January 2017 (or in some cases, celebrated as going down despite going up).

Richard Hillman

Himself and Kim should be a lock for the award. Pressure from Liberal Lobby Groups may pressure them not to.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

DickSwiveller wrote: »

Given that Obama got it for nothing, should Trump now be awarded the Peace Prize on account of the great work he's done tempering little Rocket Man?

On the basis that he didn't start a nuclear war? I'd honestly set the bar a little higher. I mean, by that standard, I should be in with a shot myself.

BoJack Horseman

DickSwiveller wrote: »

Given that Obama got it for nothing, should Trump now be awarded the Peace Prize on account of the great work he's done tempering little Rocket Man?

No

Even if he brings an end to the conflict, disbands their nuke programmes & open up the North, he still wouldn't.

At best, a joint award with the two Korean leaders.

RDM_83 again

Billy86 wrote: »

True enough, and to be honest I don't mind drone strikes going up on their own. Usually they are replacing soldiers in the ground as that technology becomes more readily available. I don't like them, but I also don't like boots on the ground or more traditional airstrikes etc.

But I do find it funny how it was such a huge issue for many (including many boardsies to the point if there being multiple threads on it in 2015 and 2016)... only to completely ignored as on January 2017 (or in some cases, celebrated as going down despite going up).

Well the argument would be that the Obama years saw a normalisation of extra judicial killing including of US citizens by a president that was at least initially adored for his credentials in terms of social justice etc.
Somebody on the right that continues this policy isn't as big a deal especially considering the rise of ISIS and the much reduced numbers of troops on the ground from the highs under Obama

MikeyTaylor

Trump will not end wars. He will only make them worse.

Danzy

MikeyTaylor wrote: »

Trump will not end wars. He will only make them worse.

There doesn't seem to be any evidence of that, quite the opposite in fact.

He is probably the least foreign focused U.S. President in 50 years.

draiochtanois

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Taytoland

Done more than Obama in 1 year than he did in 8. Stunning scenes and frankly surreal seeing him meet the North Korean leader and only good things can come out of it and slowly but surely North Korea will open up in the world to commerce. So yes he should get it.

Mutant z

He has managed to contain rocket man without firing a bullet so why not.

squawker

ask the Palestinians

MikeyTaylor

Danzy wrote: »

There doesn't seem to be any evidence of that, quite the opposite in fact.

He is probably the least foreign focused U.S. President in 50 years.

He has zero aptitude for politics. He's a businessman/reality star who only won because of the Electoral College. He's no more cut out to be President than Laura Whitmore is Taoiseach/PROI or Katie Hopkins is to be Prime Minister. He doesn't seem like a very pleasant person either. People don't hate him for nothing. President in name only.

DickSwiveller

MikeyTaylor wrote: »

He has zero aptitude for politics. He's a businessman/reality star who only won because of the Electoral College. He's no more cut out to be President than Laura Whitmore is Taoiseach/PROI or Katie Hopkins is to be Prime Minister. He doesn't seem like a very pleasant person either. People don't hate him for nothing. President in name only.

Sorry, I didn't realise you had to study for a 4 year degree in order to become President.

Danzy

MikeyTaylor wrote: »

He has zero aptitude for politics. He's a businessman/reality star who only won because of the Electoral College. He's no more cut out to be President than Laura Whitmore is Taoiseach/PROI or Katie Hopkins is to be Prime Minister. He doesn't seem like a very pleasant person either. People don't hate him for nothing. President in name only.

None of that is relevant, it isn't secondary school/

He is actually President, he gets to sit in the chair and make the decisions, so how is he President in name only?

He has pulled off this, so he has some aptitude, he had more aptitude than the Democrats did in putting Clinton forward, the one candidate that could make a New York billionaire seem an outsider and less establishment.

Trump can rely on the people who hate him and they might just well get him re-elected.