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Halloween (2018)

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Why is this called Halloween if its a direct sequel to the original and not a remake/reboot?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Maybe call it All Saints day.
    I'm cautiously optimistic about this.
    Is it true that Halloween was originally meant to be an anthology where each film was a separate story set on Halloween?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,940 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    Ipso wrote: »
    Maybe call it All Saints day.
    I'm cautiously optimistic about this.
    Is it true that Halloween was originally meant to be an anthology where each film was a separate story set on Halloween?


    Yeah the third movie is unrelated to the rest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    Didn't they remake this once already (or is that my imagination)? I'll leave out the obligatory comments re classic, no need, etc.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,514 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Didn't they remake this once already (or is that my imagination)? I'll leave out the obligatory comments re classic, no need, etc.

    They did. Rob Zombie directed it. I don't know how good it was or wasn't.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭nix


    They did. Rob Zombie directed it. I don't know how good it was or wasn't.

    If i recall, the first one was decent and the second one was an absolute mess, i cant really remember them though to be honest. I just remember feeling overall let down :(

    Aul Danny Mcbride is heavily involved with the screen play on this, while i love Danny, i just fear this movie will be more like a Scream movie instead of an actual Halloween flick :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,828 ✭✭✭✭DvB


    The original Halloween & the direct sequel Halloween II are the only ones worth watching, III at a push is decent, but as a stand alone movie with nothing at all to do with the others. All the remakes after that have been so poor I forget which ones I've watched. I doubt I'll even bother with this, would rather take out my DVD's of the original 2 & give them a watch.
    "I will honour Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all the year" - Charles Dickens




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    This looks great! That music... jesus, still fantastic. :)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    That actually looks pretty OK; when I heard Blumhouse were going to make it I was cautiously optimistic, figuring they had a better chance than others to craft a decent Halloween sequel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Fox Hound


    I like Rob Zombies Take on the Halloween series, it was messy at times, But I like the tone of all his movies, something oddly crazy about them,

    I like the fact they are starting fresh with this one and ignoring all the other sequels, thats a plus in my book,

    This will probably be a soft reboot of the first one, as it will hit the same beats as the first movie and definitly have some call backs,

    Ill defo watch it and hope for the best


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭Bret Hart


    What running time are we looking at for this, 100+? Anybody know when it'll be released over here ?

    I'll avoid going too see it for it's opening weeks. I'm a huge Halloween fan,so want too watch this in a somewhat peaceful setting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,549 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    pixelburp wrote: »
    That actually looks pretty OK; when I heard Blumhouse were going to make it I was cautiously optimistic, figuring they had a better chance than others to craft a decent Halloween sequel.

    It's only recently that I've started hearing Blumhouse mentioned in advertising material for films. Think it was Truth or Dare.


    I liked Halloween 4.
    It is strange that they just decided to do a sequel after the remake series.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mrcaramelchoc


    good god talk about milking the ****e out of something.lay the thing to rest ffs.even if they made the same movie with different name it might be better.its purely a money making excercise at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭esposito


    Bret Hart wrote: »
    What running time are we looking at for this, 100+? Anybody know when it'll be released over here ?

    Not sure about the running time. I’m hoping it’s more than the standard 90 mins for most horrors. 100-120 mins would be good.

    October 19 it will be released.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,379 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    This actually looks really good. One of the best trailers I’ve seen in a while. I can’t wait for this now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭oneilla


    Ipso wrote: »
    Maybe call it All Saints day.
    I'm cautiously optimistic about this.
    Is it true that Halloween was originally meant to be an anthology where each film was a separate story set on Halloween?

    The first one was originally going to be called The Babysitter Murders. Horror film titles in the 70s had titles which were quite blunt.

    As stated above the third one is unrelated to Michael Myers. The original financier of Halloween was a Syrian named Moustapha Akkad who predictably only cared about making money.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Trailer is decent

    On one hand I absolutely hate this **** and wonder where everyone gets the energy to work on something that has been done before, and then I start think, but what if they actually pull it off, what if it’s actually good

    I always give them the benefit of the doubt, and they never fail to disappoint

    They literally have mastered the art of making steaming piles of **** at this stage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Looks good to me , that prison yard scene builds the tension really well given it's daylight.
    The rest just looks like carnage on an epic scale.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    Fox Hound wrote: »
    I like Rob Zombies Take on the Halloween series, it was messy at times, But I like the tone of all his movies, something oddly crazy about them,

    I like the fact they are starting fresh with this one and ignoring all the other sequels, thats a plus in my book,

    This will probably be a soft reboot of the first one, as it will hit the same beats as the first movie and definitly have some call backs,

    Ill defo watch it and hope for the best

    I liked what Zombie did upon first viewings but I found as I watched more of his library, I became more irritated by his style and use of the samey characters.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭artvanderlay


    It looks pretty good, I must say. I don't think they will take the Scream route....John Carpenter gave David Gordon Green/Danny McBride this advice


    https://screenrant.com/john-carpenter-halloween-2018-advice-relentless/


    which they seem to have taken.


    Ok, so at the end of Halloween, Michael had been shot 6 times by Dr. Loomis, fell off the balcony and then disappeared. If this is a direct sequel, then when did they capture him? Soon after or was he on the run for a while (possibly killing more)? I wonder will they address this. Also, Michael is now 60, so will he be fit enough to do all this killing, given that he has been chained up/catatonic for 40 years? I hope they do address all these issues, because I can't get with it otherwise if I'm thinking about them :P


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hopefully there is proper ending to this series where either Michael or Laurie's character dies and thats it, the winner skips off into the sunset, job done.

    If it's left open for a sequel with Jason Voorhees or Kruger or or those tornado sharks i might be interested, i hope the annoying teenagers get killed off quickly and its left with Laurie and Michael to battle it out to the finish.

    But seriously lets have an ending to this long running saga because it deserves it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    Michael will leave the franchise in the hands of his apprentice by the end of the film. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Hopefully there is proper ending to this series where either Michael or Laurie's character dies and thats it, the winner skips off into the sunset, job done.

    If it's left open for a sequel with Jason Voorhees or Kruger or or those tornado sharks i might be interested, i hope the annoying teenagers get killed off quickly and its left with Laurie and Michael to battle it out to the finish.

    But seriously lets have an ending to this long running saga because it deserves it.

    Didn't he get decapitated at the end of H20?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Didn't he get decapitated at the end of H20?

    Its been so long since i saw it i can't even remember, sure isn't he always been decapitated or shot or chopped up, he keeps coming back!!!:p


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    They should have called this Halloween Part II. Something to make it clear that it's ignoring all the sequels. Otherwise I can see a lot of people dismissing it as another reboot or being very confused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,035 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    This is just weird.

    I really dislike this idea of scrunching up an entire film series - as bad as most of it was, let's be honest - and just chucking it in the bin and going off in another direction.

    But, this seems to be...ok, strangely enough.

    Problem for me is that I have a particular soft spot for 'Halloween II', as it's one of my childhood horrors. And I have a guilty love for 'Halloween III', a film so ridiculous in concept and execution, but also one that's ridiculously entertaining. I love that dumb movie.

    I'll probably end up watching this, out of curiosity, but I feel oddly uncomfortable about it all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    The machine has made this kind of thing ok unfortunately in recent years....."the soft reboot" where films can be retconned with one line of contempt such as in this trailer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Didn't he get decapitated at the end of H20?

    I think I read before he was supposed to have swapped places with a police office or medic before that.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Didn't he get decapitated at the end of H20?

    Thats what we all thought, but the sequel to H20 told the story that it was actually a paramedic wearing the mask that got decapitated, while the crafty Michael made his escape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭artvanderlay


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Thats what we all thought, but the sequel to H20 told the story that it was actually a paramedic wearing the mask that got decapitated, while the crafty Michael made his escape.


    I remember watching H2O and saying that that would happen if they did another sequel...I was right!



    Is Michael Myers crafty though?...I don't think they have fleshed out his story at all. He's just some relentless killing machine...why? Also can't somebody overpower him in a fight? I'd like to see a slasher movie where the indestructible killer wanders into a room of MMA fighters and they kick the living sh*te out of him. Getting a big tired of these 'can't be beaten/killed psycho' films.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    oneilla wrote: »
    The original financier of Halloween was a Syrian named Moustapha Akkad who predictably only cared about making money.

    As opposed to everyone else in Hollywood?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭conorhal


    There are some effective scares in the trailer, but making Laurie a Sarah Connor trope doesn't seem like there's much creative thinking going on. The prison yard scene is just flat out stupid. Why would prison authorities let a journalist wander in an excercise yard with a psycopath and wave his killing mask in his face? Who signed off on that?
    Then there's the fact this is from the creative team that gave us 'Your Highness'...... so I'm not holding out much hope that we'll get anything but a slightly more polished verson of H20.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭El Duda


    Looks decent.

    Biggest gripe is the title. Halloween FFS. Give it a number, or a suffix of some kind.

    I hate that we now have to refer to Ghostbusters as 'the first one, not the 2016 one'. Please don't make me do it with this as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,940 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    I thought this would be awful but form the trailer it looks like it could be a decent movie,
    I really liked the day time prison scene it really helped build tension ,
    As someone said how will they explain him being 60ish and still a killing machine surely the aul knees or back would be playing up ,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭p to the e


    Jamie Lee looks like Brent Spiner in Independence Day:

    landscape-1466514057-brent-spiner-independence-day.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,035 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I thought this would be awful but form the trailer it looks like it could be a decent movie,
    I really liked the day time prison scene it really helped build tension ,
    As someone said how will they explain him being 60ish and still a killing machine surely the aul knees or back would be playing up ,

    If Mickey Myers can keep coming back from the dead, I don't think a touch of arthritis will do him much harm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭artvanderlay


    I was trying to remember in Eastbound and Down where Danny McBride mentions Michael Myers. He's trying to offload all the old Kenny Powers merchandise after his baseball career stalls and his replica mask looks like a "retarded Michael Myers" :pac:



    http://halloweendailynews.com/2014/07/michael-myers-invades-eastbound-and-down/


    He must have always been a fan of the Halloween movies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Frank O. Pinion


    El Duda wrote: »
    I hate that we now have to refer to Ghostbusters as 'the first one, not the 2016 one'. Please don't make me do it with this as well.
    The 2016 Ghostbusters full title is: Ghostbusters: Answer The Call.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    El Duda wrote: »
    Looks decent.

    Biggest gripe is the title. Halloween FFS. Give it a number, or a suffix of some kind.

    I hate that we now have to refer to Ghostbusters as 'the first one, not the 2016 one'. Please don't make me do it with this as well.

    In fairness, people have been calling it "the first one" or "the original Ghostbusters" since 1989 when Ghostbusters II was released. So the release of the remake really doesn't change anything. And even then, unless you indicate that you are talking about the remake, most people who know anything about movies will assume any reference to Ghostbusters means the original.

    The main reason this shouldn't have been called Halloween is because it confusingly suggests that it's a remake when it's actually sequel albeit one that ignores all the other sequels.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    The main reason this shouldn't have been called Halloween is because it confusingly suggests that it's a remake when it's actually sequel albeit one that ignores all the other sequels.

    Should have been called "Halloween II v2"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Fox Hound


    I liked what Zombie did upon first viewings but I found as I watched more of his library, I became more irritated by his style and use of the samey characters.


    I have only watched the Halloween films, house of a 1000 corpse and the devils rejects,

    Its something very rare that we get a writer/director that likes to do his own thing, I think that needs to be championed these days,,, he is not the greatest but I like his style of horror and as for the casting, Id say he finds it hard to get actors for his movies because he likes to work on low budget things (outside the Halloween franchises) plus he probably just trusts these actors, lots of Directors do this, i.e Tim Burton, Chris Nolan etc...anyway getting a bit side tracked, but this Halloween does look cool, and plus Myers is an awesome bad guy, so lets bring him back and watch him F**k things up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    I thought this would be awful but form the trailer it looks like it could be a decent movie,
    I really liked the day time prison scene it really helped build tension ,
    As someone said how will they explain him being 60ish and still a killing machine surely the aul knees or back would be playing up ,


    All the night-time killings delayed as he tries to pee but can't due to his prostrate issues.

    I agree with the strength thing too, it's gotten a bit silly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    Fox Hound wrote: »
    I have only watched the Halloween films, house of a 1000 corpse and the devils rejects,

    Its something very rare that we get a writer/director that likes to do his own thing, I think that needs to be championed these days,,, he is not the greatest but I like his style of horror and as for the casting, Id say he finds it hard to get actors for his movies because he likes to work on low budget things (outside the Halloween franchises) plus he probably just trusts these actors, lots of Directors do this, i.e Tim Burton, Chris Nolan etc...anyway getting a bit side tracked, but this Halloween does look cool, and plus Myers is an awesome bad guy, so lets bring him back and watch him F**k things up!

    It's not necessarily an issue with the actors as he does have a very decent core that do perform for him. Just seems every film revolves around hicks and a lot of exploitation in the arse end of America. That's what he brought to Halloween which was interesting in itself, but showed his limitations when viewed in the wider context of his general work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    I rewatched the trailer today when showing it to someone else, they seem to give away 3 deaths really cheaply in that.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    It's not necessarily an issue with the actors as he does have a very decent core that do perform for him. Just seems every film revolves around hicks and a lot of exploitation in the arse end of America. That's what he brought to Halloween which was interesting in itself, but showed his limitations when viewed in the wider context of his general work.

    Not just that, but his insistence on having Sheri Moon Zombie take a significant role gets in the way too. She was surprisingly good in Lords of Salem (very much a "what it could have been" film, given that the ending just sort of peters out), but is otherwise pretty wooden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Space Dog


    razorblunt wrote: »
    I rewatched the trailer today when showing it to someone else, they seem to give away 3 deaths really cheaply in that.

    I stopped watching trailers altogether for that reason. I might watch a teaser, but full trailers give away most of the film these days. I'd rather have some surprises when I get to see the film.
    Oh, I actually watched the trailer for the Suspiria remake, but since I've seen the original and know the story I'll be watching that mostly for the mood, score and cinematography anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    New trailer. Sorry, haters. This looks great. :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭nix


    "I've been preparing for this for a long time"

    Weapon of choice: Winchester rifle, developed over 100 years ago :rolleyes::pac:


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,379 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    This looks so good. Can’t wait.


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