Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

PTH2009

Don't think Fanning will walk or get the sack cause of the league campaign

Will players strike ???

cul beag

Great ideas as I said previously about how to try to rectify the mess at administrative level but I’m still not happy with the fact of these fellas downing tools yesterday. In any man’s language that’s unacceptable and really and truly they don’t give a s##t about the supporters and the people that financially support them year on year. I just can’t get my head around that performance. As Shefflin said about Cork, even when they were in dispute with management/county board in cork they still didn’t bottle it like our fellas. Spitting the dummy out of the pram at this level is a sad reflection on themselves as hurlers and as human beings. Not only should we weed out the administration but also the 5/6 bad apples on the panel aswell should get the boot!

enoughtaken

Ropaire wrote: »

We couldn't fill out Walsh Park for our first home game when there was still some optimism around the place, so I can't see enough interest to manage a protest march with enough numbers to make anyone take notice.

An online petition for a single issue of consequence like removing the East and West County stuff where ya just have to click in and sign it would be easier to handle though, and much easier to promote.

Yep I’d agree. But let’s wait till after next Saturday night.

Clonmel1000

Road-Hog wrote: »

Waterford have plenty of talented forwards every bit as taleated as those you mention.......Lehane and harnady........??? Up until last year nobody had heard of gillane Hayes etc. Tipp lads yes. They have had serious talent in forwards but failed to deliver post 2010 when everyone thought they would dominate. Kk gave them an massive hiding in the semi in 2011 and it toook another 5 years for them to get back to winning ways. So all not totally gone but something has to change for next season or Offaly here we come

Kk beat Tipp in the 11 final by 4 points. Tipp beat Waterford at their ease on 12 and 15. Weird definition of winning ways.

_blaaz

PTH2009 wrote: »

Don't think Fanning will walk or get the sack cause of the league campaign

Will players strike ???

Id be suprised if he didnt walk after yesterday


What ever about poor tactics or crap preparation (which were woeful) to throw in the towel after 20 mins and 2 pts down at that stage is disgraceful behaviour



Fanning must shoulder large portion of the blame....but jesus fcuk.....there not kids anymore either (like 6 years since minor AI)...its time to step up

Calum lyons youngest man on the pitch is one of at best a handful who can hold their heads up after that display....fcuking cant get my head around how things have gone this bad


Would anyone honestly back us to beat kerry if it came to it,on that display yesterday

Stacksofwacks

_blaaz wrote: »

Id be suprised if he didnt walk after yesterday


What ever about poor tactics or crap preparation (which were woeful) to throw in the towel after 20 mins and 2 pts down at that stage is disgraceful behaviour



Fanning must shoulder large portion of the blame....but jesus fcuk.....there not kids anymore either (like 6 years since minor AI)...its time to step up

Calum lyons youngest man on the pitch is one of at best a handful who can hold their heads up after that display....fcuking cant get my head around how things have gone this bad


Would anyone honestly back us to beat kerry if it came to it,on that display yesterday

Yes Kerry would have beaten us yesterday playing like that.

munsterlegend

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Yes Kerry would have beaten us yesterday playing like that.

Whatever about Kerry, Carlow would run ye close.

Stacksofwacks

munsterlegend wrote: »

Whatever about Kerry, Carlow would run ye close.

We beat Carlow 3-15 to 0-10 in the league but have regressed massively since then so ya you're probably right

Jayesdiem

Of course Waterford would beat Carlow and Kerry. Some are saying Waterford are sh1te, others are saying they aren’t trying. I seriously doubt those two statements are true and I’d back the latter if I had to bet. The mindset needs to change, that’s all.

munsterlegend

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Of course Waterford would beat Carlow and Kerry. Some are saying Waterford are sh1te, others are saying they aren’t trying. I seriously doubt those two statements are true and I’d back the latter if I had to bet. The mindset needs to change, that’s all.

There should be a play off in Munster for bottom team like Leinster to be fair. Just happens to be Waterford in that position at that moment but obviously will change.

Stacksofwacks

If you remember Offaly's decline started in the early 2000's. They were appearing in Leinster finals and All Ireland finals nearly every year. Then they started getting a few bad beatings, even with some of their star players in tow. People just said they were inconsistent or it was just a few bad days out. Then they started getting bad beatings from the top teams every year and hence, now they can't even hold themselves in the second tier. When players stop trying it sends out a bad message to the next generation and a malaise sets in. Something to be aware of.

PTH2009

Players out drinking last night apparently

upthedeise16

PTH2009 wrote: »

Players out drinking last night apparently

Well I was driven to drink after it, not surprised they were

alta stare

munsterlegend wrote: »

There should be a play off in Munster for bottom team like Leinster to be fair. Just happens to be Waterford in that position at that moment but obviously will change.

Yeah i agree it might shake them up a bit.

enoughtaken

munsterlegend wrote: »

Whatever about Kerry, Carlow would run ye close.

Current set up with us yes. How bad to be relegated. Re group New Management and win or be runner up in Joe McDonagh cup and we’re in preliminary all Ireland quarter final avoiding Munster championship !!!

Stacksofwacks

munsterlegend wrote: »

There should be a play off in Munster for bottom team like Leinster to be fair. Just happens to be Waterford in that position at that moment but obviously will change.

What would be the point? I suppose you could have a four team Munster championship but then you'd have to have six teams in the Leinster championship. Only fair way as we all know is to scrap the provincials altogether and have 2 groups of 5 in an open draw

Stopitwillya

PTH2009 wrote: »

Players out drinking last night apparently

Apparently
So what?
Do you think they should be fined two weeks wages if true?
Remember they are amateur players.

cul beag

PTH2009 wrote: »

Players out drinking last night apparently

Yes they were. All langers in the nightclub. Can’t imagine how they had worked up a thirst though!

Jjjjjjjjbarry

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

If you remember Offaly's decline started in the early 2000's. They were appearing in Leinster finals and All Ireland finals nearly every year. Then they started getting a few bad beatings, even with some of their star players in tow. People just said they were inconsistent or it was just a few bad days out. Then they started getting bad beatings from the top teams every year and hence, now they can't even hold themselves in the second tier. When players stop trying it sends out a bad message to the next generation and a malaise sets in. Something to be aware of.

And they have one of the nicest emptiest county grounds in the country too.

JesusRef

Jjjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

And they have one of the nicest emptiest county grounds in the country too.

Totally, Offaly are the bogeyman for us here - don't get our **** together we will end just like them.

Building a fancy new stadium would only serve to make away fans comfortable as they outnumber us whilst their team give us a beating ... Another pleasant trip to the south east

Road-Hog

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

Kk beat Tipp in the 11 final by 4 points. Tipp beat Waterford at their ease on 12 and 15. Weird definition of winning ways.

Correction 2012 semi final. KK 4-24 Tipperary 1-15..........that is 18 pts. Think this was the day Lar followed tommy walsh around Croke Park. I was just trying to make the point that Tipp have got a serious hiding and bounced back but it took 4 years to reach the peak again

munsterlegend

Road-Hog wrote: »

Correction 2012 semi final. KK 4-24 Tipperary 1-15..........that is 18 pts. Think this was the day Lar followed tommy walsh around Croke Park. I was just trying to make the point that Tipp have got a serious hiding and bounced back but it took 4 years to reach the peak again

Structure is very important and confidence in a coaching team. Look at donegal in football - went from being humiliated to an all Ireland semi final and the next year winners in 2 years.

Stacksofwacks

I think a new level of nastiness is gonna creep into this thread, even poor PH will have to check out. lol

thesaturdayman

munsterlegend wrote: »

Structure is very important and confidence in a coaching team. Look at donegal in football - went from being humiliated to an all Ireland semi final and the next year winners in 2 years.

Donegal also had one of the most innovate, forward thinking, ahead of his time managers football has ever seen who played to an ultra rigid & defensive system but ultimately brought them to glory.

We had the same in hurling & was ran out of the job by a county board who had no ambition & hurling purists / snobs / knobs who said it was proper hurling that sweeper **** - we were in actual fact a puck of a ball from an all Ireland under Derek & by Christ could we do with him back.

Jjjjjjjjbarry

cul beag wrote: »

PTH2009 wrote: »

Players out drinking last night apparently

Yes they were. All langers in the nightclub. Can’t imagine how they had worked up a thirst though!

You have to feel sorry for Fanning. As a Waterford man, I’m sure he’s hurting more than anyone today. Hopefully the Brick wasn’t out as a lad of his age is in 3 day hangover territory haha

Jerry Atrick

thesaturdayman wrote: »

Donegal also had one of the most innovate, forward thinking, ahead of his time managers football has ever seen who played to an ultra rigid & defensive system but ultimately brought them to glory.

We had the same in hurling & was ran out of the job by a county board who had no ambition & hurling purists / snobs / knobs who said it was proper hurling that sweeper **** - we were in actual fact a puck of a ball from an all Ireland under Derek & by Christ could we do with him back.

Five years in the job...didn't get us to the holy grail. Time to move on and stop living in the past lad.

_blaaz

thesaturdayman wrote: »

Donegal also had one of the most innovate, forward thinking, ahead of his time managers football has ever seen who played to an ultra rigid & defensive system but ultimately brought them to glory.

We had the same in hurling & was ran out of the job by a county board who had no ambition & hurling purists / snobs / knobs who said it was proper hurling that sweeper **** - we were in actual fact a puck of a ball from an all Ireland under Derek & by Christ could we do with him back.

Kinda glossing over derek mcgraths last year there??

The rot started with him


Plus the fact several players had left the panel and refused to play (cant call that muck hurling)under him

munsterlegend

_blaaz wrote: »

Kinda glossing over derek mcgraths last year there??


Plus the fact several players had left the panel and refused to play (cant call that muck hurling)under him

Who refused to play?

Stacksofwacks

Jjjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

You have to feel sorry for Fanning. As a Waterford man, I’m sure he’s hurting more than anyone today. Hopefully the Brick wasn’t out as a lad of his age is in 3 day hangover territory haha

Im pretty sure brick dosen't drink. Ya it is tough on Fanning, he comes from a famous Waterford GAA family and its not nice to see a man hitting the deck in this way. I just think he is out of his depth both tactically and in terms of management style, his old school approach isnt washing with the current generation. He also wasnt helped by how the previous manager operated.

JeffKenna

It's looking like the smartest people in all of this were Dinny Cahill and Pat Ryan for keeping away from the current group of players.