Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

Fred C Dobbs

Aussie seems to be unmanageable, no matter what position he plays in (even if very talented). Thought this management team might be able to get inside his head ; hopefully, they will asap.

Still think he's better in the forwards "when he's in the mood". While a good distributor from the back, he's too loose a marker.

HangBlaa

I sat in Ardán Ui Gras on Sunday just beside the Galway subs, and behind the Galway management team;

A couple of observations;

Micheál Donoghue does an incredible amount of whinging an moaning at officials, and was in the linesmans ear all day. Never stopped. This was reflected in his post match comments when he has a whinge and the heavy challenges on Joe.. 'Dont touch Joe!'

Austin Gleeson did an incredible amount of work in the second half where he was operating primarily in front of me; I thought he really stood up from about 50 minurtes onwards.

Likewise Stephen Bennet, real leader stuff after the sending off, just demanded the ball, threw himself into 50:50's

Kearney, yes deserved a second yellow; but Harte should have seen red for driving the butt of the hurley into Mikey under the dropping ball.

deise08

Austin gleeson - What do they say?
' there is no great genius without a touch of madness.'

Jjjjjjjbarry

Aussie is just too unpredictable for centre back. Ideally that's where he should have developed by now but unfortunately, it's too much of a risk due to his inconsistency and unpredictable temperament and I feel that starting him there and having to move him is too unsettling for him and the rest of the team. At least at half forward you can let him loose and if he's not going well, just take him off and give another lad a chance without leaking scores the other end.

BloodyBill

Fred C Dobbs wrote: »

Aussie seems to be unmanageable, no matter what position he plays in (even if very talented). Thought this management team might be able to get inside his head ; hopefully, they will asap.

Still think he's better in the forwards "when he's in the mood". While a good distributor from the back, he's too loose a marker.

I'd say management have got inside his head and have seen there isn't much going on on there. That's not Austin's fault. He will always have to be managed extra closely and will probably never dominate like his talents suggest he should.

Jjjjjjjbarry

What’s the story with club senior hurling championship? There was meant to be club games this weekend but presumably now postponed? The Waterford gaa website is brutal to navigate on a phone!

Mastermcgrath

BloodyBill wrote: »

I'd say management have got inside his head and have seen there isn't much going on on there. That's not Austin's fault. He will always have to be managed extra closely and will probably never dominate like his talents suggest he should.

Unfair comment. Anyone that knows the lad knows that's BS. Everyone has character flaws, it dosent mean that 'there is nothing there'.

I think Fanning is managing things a bit smarter, he's not building the entire team around him like McGrath did. Otherwise you end up n a situation like Galway, for all their talent they still heavily reliant on Joe and when Joe is off form or is injured their just not the same team.

I noticed a few times over the past couple weeks when Aussie went to take a quick free, a few of the other senior players screamed at him to go away from it and go back to position. I think this is healthy trend and Fanning needs to be given credit for his role in changing the mindset

puzl

I think Aussies is 100% up for it this year. Working his ass off... Maybe he's made a few odd decisions but I think his head is in the right place so far this year.

In general though, I'm dreading what club month will do to us. We racked up a fair few injuries last year.

Mastermcgrath

puzl wrote: »

I think Aussies is 100% up for it this year. Working his ass off... Maybe he's made a few odd decisions but I think his head is in the right place so far this year.

In general though, I'm dreading what club month will do to us. We racked up a fair few injuries last year.

Likewise the clubs are dreading what the county team does to their players, but that’s life

Jjjjjjjbarry

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blueflame

To be fair, Aussie is still a young and very immature player, even considering his experience to date. He is expected by many to go out and dominate not only every opponent but every game and this is unreasonable. Yes he become frustrated when things go wrong, he is not the first and will not not the last that has to learn to cope with this and you can be sure he gets a lot of extra attention. Just look at how long it took Joe canning to reach his current level of consistency.

Having watched the "knee dropping" incident several times, i would totally disagree that he dropped both knees, his right foot is planted on the ground at all times meaning he had a fair degree of balance and did not apply full weight as some have indicated. Having said that it was a stupid thing to do, as was Mikey Kearney's and management need to get an early grip on this kind of thing. Referees nowadays are very quick to expose even the smallest of indisciplines. Our last management team to my mind failed to deal with it and it cost us dearly on a number of occasions, and to be honest our discipline this year up to last Sunday is one of the things that has impressed me so far.

People need to remember that this team is still trying to find its way., making big adjustments in playing style.

Aussie might as well have been missing all of last year and is trying to adjust to playing again as a forward. My preference is to see him as a half back, but has he the potential to deliver from half forward - absolutely.

De Burca, for me is a central player, i.e. center back or full back, Last week after coming back from a layoff he was stationed at wing back and looked lost, as he settled into the game and was moved to center back he settled down nicely, and remember he missed almost all of last year and has spent the last three years as "sweeper" never having to mark. He needs time to adjust.

While trying to get as many players as possible game time we are chopping and changing and this does unsettle the team leading to inconsistency so lets give them time.

I for one am extremely happy with how we are progressing and when we get Prunty, the two Fives, Kieran Bennett, Conor Gleeson and Maurice back up and running with some good game time behind them, the options will open up big time.

Obviously starting or finishing games poorly are worrying trends, but for me starting poorly is the preference of the two. Last week we started poorly but stuck at it and worked our way into the game. We worked hard, did not panic and kept our composure not for the first time this year and won the game. The substitutes helped to lift the overall performance and that is always a good thing as opposed to making changes that have no impact whatsoever. Even in the one game we lost we still could have beaten Dublin after being out of the game for long periods. There is much work to be done, but for me we are going in the right direction

upthedeise16

Jjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

What’s the story with club senior hurling championship? There was meant to be club games this weekend but presumably now postponed? The Waterford gaa website is brutal to navigate on a phone!

This weekends matches are now being played next weekend. The 2nd round of hurling which was to be the that weekend is cancelled. The 2 rounds of football go ahead as scheduled.

Weekend 6/7th April: Round 1 Hurling
Weekend 13/14th April: Round 1 Football
Weekend 20/21st April: Round 2 Football

It means Fanning will have the majority of his panel back training by the end of the first weekend in April.

ovalu

puzl wrote: »

In general though, I'm dreading what club month will do to us. We racked up a fair few injuries last year.

Time to get rid of the club's completely, they are a major hindrance to the intercounty team

deiseach

ovalu wrote: »

Time to get rid of the club's completely, they are a major hindrance to the intercounty team

Is that you, John Delaney?

puzl

ovalu wrote: »

Time to get rid of the club's completely, they are a major hindrance to the intercounty team

Aw now that's not what I'm saying at all and you know it. Having an intensified full month of hurling i.e. 4 weekends on the trott right before the first round of the Munster championship is just a terrible idea. The clubs are suffering for sure because of the expanded inter-county schedule, but just piling even more games on the players during any down time is not the solution.

bemmet

Here’s hoping that we get the significant and deep travelling support for Waterford on Sunday in Croke park.
Last Sunday was weak enough given bordering county location for the fixture.
We all know come summer time there will be people banging on Walsh park doors for entry.
It’s a national final , in the best stadium in the country and Waterford are playing.
Time to show this team the support they have and as Jamie says in today’s indo - it’s the support in the last 10 minutes that can often make the difference.
See you there.

blue note

We're going to need to outscore limerick at the weekend if we're going to beat them.

hurler on de ditch

blue note wrote: »

We're going to need to outscore limerick at the weekend if we're going to beat them.

Seriously

deisedude

blue note wrote: »

We're going to need to outscore limerick at the weekend if we're going to beat them.

Good to see you are familiar with the basic concept of how sport works

hardybuck

blue note wrote: »

We're going to need to outscore limerick at the weekend if we're going to beat them.

This has to be one of the quotes of the thread.

Gardner

i'd say himself and PTH2009 meet up for beers last night

puzl

blue note wrote: »

We're going to need to outscore limerick at the weekend if we're going to beat them.

Thankfully it'll be a game of two halves and waterford step up to the plate and keep their eye on the ball and knock it out of the park!

deiseach

PTH2009 thinks we could outscore Limerick and still lose.

Ian OB

deiseach wrote: »

PTH2009 thinks we could outscore Limerick and still lose.

There are some matches I have a similiar paranoia about beforehand

hurler on de ditch

blue note wrote: »

We're going to need to outscore limerick at the weekend if we're going to beat them.

seriously

JeffKenna

Echo

PTH2009

dont the county board get €100,000 and squad get a end of year holiday out of winning the league ???

irish rail are running direct match special train leaving Waterford at 10am and Hueston Station at 18.15 on Sunday

http://www.irishrail.ie/fare-and-tickets/support-your-county-and-travel-by-rail-to-the-gaa

KevIRL

Worth listening to today's Off the Ball hurling show, in particular the interview with Eoin Kelly talking about his exit from Mount Sion and other bits

Jjjjjjjbarry

Poor PTH2009 gets an awful doing on here

PTH2009

KevIRL wrote: »

Worth listening to today's Off the Ball hurling show, in particular the interview with Eoin Kelly talking about his exit from Mount Sion and other bits

Yeah always get slack for whatever I say but u all love my opinion lol

Yeah watched it there very good episode (and show). 1 going for Limerick and 1 going for us Sunday. Imo this I'd very bonus territory esp adding in getting a final on Croke park and not many expected us too go far in the league but here we are. Still think Limerick will get over the line but hoping it will be a close game and were not on the receiving of a hammering that sadly this squad of players have been through in major finals the past few years. Cant wait for Sunday