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    #662
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,799 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    thebull85 wrote: »
    No my source is Caolan Robertson.

    Youve literally made stuff up.

    searched google for sources after youve made statements.

    Misconstrued actual sources given to you. And made up information that doesnt exist in articles.

    You have to be playing a part in a show of some description. I havent quite figured it out yet.


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    #663
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    listermint wrote: »
    Youve literally made stuff up.

    searched google for sources after youve made statements.

    Misconstrued actual sources given to you. And made up information that doesnt exist in articles.

    You have to be playing a part in a show of some description. I havent quite figured it out yet.



    What did i make up?


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    #664
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,286 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    thebull85 wrote: »
    No my source is Caolan Robertson.


    your source is Info Wars.


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    #665
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Alex jones is crazy and dangerous, however he yesterday got a first hand account from Tommy's formerly gagged court proceedings. Any news outlet could do it, but very few mainstream if any, did. I am particularly interested in the way Tommy was put away, as there are instances in his past where police have at best stretched the truth (and proven so in court) attempting to having him jailed. I have never heard of a defendant not getting to chance to have their personal legal representative, could be a valid reason for it but very strange.


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    #666
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,286 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    Alex jones is crazy and dangerous, however he yesterday got a first hand account from Tommy's formerly gagged court proceedings. Any news outlet could do it, but very few mainstream if any, did.


    the bbc covered it. the metro covered it. I posted a link to another newspaper that covered it. The difference is that Alex couldn't tell the truth is he truth.


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    #667
    wes
    Registered Users Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    thebull85 wrote: »
    No my source is Caolan Robertson.

    Caolan Robertson – Pretend Journalist


    Write for "Rebel Media" a far right Canadian outfit. So he is a far right activist, who appeared on a conspiracy theory youtube channel, who again claims that families of victims of mass shootings are crisis actors. So yeah your source is info wars as that is where he appeared and that is what you posted.


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    #668
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Jaysus is this thread about the recent Tommy Robinson arrest or is it an award ceremony for greatest source in the world 2018?


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    #669
    wes
    Registered Users Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    Jaysus is this thread about the recent Tommy Robinson arrest or is it an award ceremony for greatest source in the world 2018?

    Well the flat earth society should get the award :D.


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    #670
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,286 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    wes wrote: »
    Caolan Robertson – Pretend Journalist


    Write for "Rebel Media" a far right Canadian outfit. So he is a far right activist, who appeared on a conspiracy theory youtube channel, who again claims that families of victims of mass shootings are crisis actors. So yeah your source is info wars as that is where he appeared and that is what you posted.


    He was fired from Rebel Media.


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    #671
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    wes wrote: »
    Caolan Robertson – Pretend Journalist


    Write for "Rebel Media" a far right Canadian outfit. So he is a far right activist, who appeared on a conspiracy theory youtube channel, who again claims that families of victims of mass shootings are crisis actors. So yeah your source is info wars as that is where he appeared and that is what you posted.


    Ok.... That doesnt change what he said, im sorry you dont like the source. I havent came on here lied like another poster has claimed. I made a statement and then posted a video. Why are you so annoyed?


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    #672
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    Alex jones is crazy and dangerous, however he yesterday got a first hand account from Tommy's formerly gagged court proceedings. Any news outlet could do it, but very few mainstream if any, did. I am particularly interested in the way Tommy was put away, as there are instances in his past where police have at best stretched the truth (and proven so in court) attempting to having him jailed. I have never heard of a defendant not getting to chance to have their personal legal representative, could be a valid reason for it but very strange.


    Info Wars is not a news outlet. It's an entertainment show. Alex Jones is not a journalist. He is an actor. The reason he appears to scoop actual news sources is because they verify their sources.


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    #673
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    your source is Info Wars.

    Don't take this as implicit defense of infowars, but you're talking about sources, your's calls the march 'neo-nazi' themed, I click the link, daily mail video, no sign of neo nazi symbols or sentiments, black guy singing Tommy Tommy Robinson in the crowd.


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    #674
    Snake Plisken
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    Speaking of mistrials Tommy should have one as the judge in his case was a witness to his arrest and was caught laughing out the window at him being arrested!
    https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1001505639976189954?s=21


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    #675
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,799 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Ok.... That doesnt change what he said, im sorry you dont like the source. I havent came on here lied like another poster has claimed. I made a statement and then posted a video. Why are you so annoyed?

    You lied,

    Then corrected yourself.

    I commend you on correcting yourself but does not excuse the original post was in fact 'a lie'....


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    #676
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Info Wars is not a news outlet. It's an entertainment show. Alex Jones is not a journalist. He is an actor. The reason he appears to scoop actual news sources is because they verify their sources.

    I never said he was a news outlet. In that case I watched him interviewing Tommy Robinsons cameraman, who was in the court, so I got first hand information of what happened which was my goal. *shrugs*


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    #677
    ohnonotgmail
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    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Speaking of mistrials Tommy should have one as the judge in his case was a witness to his arrest and was caught laughing out the window at him being arrested!
    https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1001505639976189954?s=21


    On what basis? He seen him arrested. Assuming the photo is correct. So what?


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    #678
    ohnonotgmail
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    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    I never said he was a news outlet. In that case I watched him interviewing Tommy Robinsons cameraman, who was in the court, so I got first hand information of what happened which was my goal. *shrugs*


    Completely impartial i'm sure. Not at all biased.


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    #679
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Speaking of mistrials Tommy should have one as the judge in his case was a witness to his arrest and was caught laughing out the window at him being arrested!


    And on what basis do you believe that a judge witnessing the arrest prevents him from judging the case in relation to contempt of court? That'd be a new one. Can you imagine it? Someone kicks of in court and the judge says "You are in contempt of court. Hang on there while I find another judge to deal with you because I witnessed your actions."


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    #680
    Call Me Jimmy
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Completely impartial i'm sure. Not at all biased.

    Of course he's biased, that goes without saying surely? Do you have an article from someone else who was there?


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    #681
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,286 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    Of course he's biased, that goes without saying surely? Do you have an article from someone else who was there?




    AHFFS are all the right wing lot so lazy? I posted one in the last hour. 2 journalists that were actually in the court. Journalists, not tommys mate.


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    #682
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    AHFFS are all the right wing lot so lazy? I posted one in the last hour. 2 journalists that were actually in the court. Journalists, not tommys mate.

    I honestly didn't see it, was a genuine question. And I'm not right wing.


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    #683
    Snake Plisken
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    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    And on what basis do you believe that a judge witnessing the arrest prevents him from judging the case in relation to contempt of court? That'd be a new one. Can you imagine it? Someone kicks of in court and the judge says "You are in contempt of court. Hang on there while I find another judge to deal with you because I witnessed your actions."

    Would you trust a judge that laughs at you while you are bing arrested to, give you a fair hearing and sentence? I for one wouldn’t!


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    #684
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,286 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    I honestly didn't see it, was a genuine question. And I'm not right wing.




    link here https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/tommy-robinson-jailed-couldnt-report-14704946


    excellent analysis by a practicing barrister here https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-tommy-robinson/


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    #685
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,161 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    pumpkin4life wrote: »
    The dirty little secret is that a lot of the Middle to Upper Middle class despise the working class, as it tends to pervade their holier than shìte bubble view of the world. Muslim rape gangs in Luton? We can't have that. Black teenage gangs in Balbriggan and Tyrrelstown? Where are the Irish Times for that? That benny Fintan O Toole talking about compassion? Where's that again?

    They hate Tommy because he's the guy that breaks their view of reality, and even despite his flaws, anyone who has grown up in those kinds of estates knows exactly what he is talking about.

    Considering from what posters like wes and Grayson have said about their background on here, they haven't a clue. That's how bad these areas have become.

    Orwell wrote about it before. Said socialists and a lot of middle class tend to hate the rich, and use the working class as a way to push that forward. Yet they are part of the problem themselves. Great point in my opinion.

    Let's see. things I mentioned in the past.

    I grew up in a small cottage in the countryside.
    I went to a regular national school.
    My mother was a nurse. My dad was unemployed and on welfare for most of his life. Both are northsiders. My entire extended family live in the northside.
    We moved to Iraq for a year when I was a child because there were no jobs in Ireland in the mid 80's.
    I went to a local catholic boarding school as a day pupil. Fees were less that a hundred pounds a year.
    At one point my mother had three jobs to support us.
    I worked full time and went to college full time at the same time. I managed to get two degrees and a masters whilst doing this.

    What exactly is it about my background that makes me unable to understand the rational behind your bigotry? is it that I met loads of muslims? is it that I educated myself? Is it that I've travelled?
    At what point have I said anything positive about these rape gangs? At what point have I said anything positive about "Black" gangs? Criminals should be put in jail.

    The one thing I've said is that you cannot take the actions of a few and extend it to say that everyone in that group is like that. You can't discriminate against all muslims because of the actions of a few. That's not a radical leftist thought. that's basic equality. Don't discriminate against one human being because of someone else that they have nothing to do with.
    I've also said in this thread that Tommy Robinson is a violent criminal. That it's wrong to disrupt the proceedings of a trial of alleged paedophiles because it would be horrible to see a mistrial. Horrible crimes were committed. I want to see those accused get a fair trial and, assuming they are guilty, they get locked up.


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    #686
    ohnonotgmail
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    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Would you trust a judge that laughs at you while you are bing arrested to, give you a fair hearing and sentence? I for one wouldn’t!


    Do you think the judge erred in law in his judgement?


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    #687
    WinnyThePoo
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    AHFFS are all the right wing lot so lazy? I posted one in the last hour. 2 journalists that were actually in the court. Journalists, not tommys mate.

    One thing I have to say I love about Tommys fanboys or as I'm calling them now 'Tommys Tits' . There blindness to reality is fascinating. Like we've a lad posting infowars and still whining why he isn't being taken seriously. Another poster claiming MSM have not reported on Tommy, yet from a quick google. I can't notice a big British who hasn't.


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    #688
    Grayson
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    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Info Wars is not a news outlet. It's an entertainment show. Alex Jones is not a journalist. He is an actor. The reason he appears to scoop actual news sources is because they verify their sources.

    He's a salesman for "nutrition" supplements. :)


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    #689
    Captain Obvious
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    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Would you trust a judge that laughs at you while you are bing arrested to, give you a fair hearing and sentence? I for one wouldn’t!


    If I did something stupid and illegal in front of a judge my reaction would be "I'm ****ed now" not "This is an unfair trial". You think some distant photo of a judge possibly smiling is an issue by all means make that claim but the judge you make it to will probably laugh at you. They are allowed react to things you know.


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    #690
    wes
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    He was fired from Rebel Media.

    Ah ok got that wrong. Thanks for the clarification.


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    #691
    wes
    Registered Users Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Why are you so annoyed?

    Not really annoyed, just not a fan of infowars for the reasons I mentioned earlier.


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