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Tommy Robinson jailed

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    what is it i am supposed to find strange?

    That a man who's case is in front of the attorney general, in a country where online police surviellance is substantial, who is an enemy of the almost every journalist and anti-islamophobia group is getting away with criminality broadcast to millions of people.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    can you point to the post where i called you a racist?

    The implication was there to see.

    Your implication that I would find it acceptable for people to urge beheadings of the followers of the Koran would indicate that way.

    The fact that you purposely misquoted me to make it look like I said things I didn't.

    Scroll back up there. Im on a phone at the minute so it's hard to multiquote.

    But anyhoo, as enjoyable as it was, I was just trying to save someone else the trouble.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Any screenshots pal? You and the many thousands who hate him surely must have some proof?


    Corporate capital has the modern Left by the bollox from anarchism to social democrats

    Of all those following and monitoring Robinson, easily thousands out of his million followers, no one saw nothing. Including the police, hope not Hate, uaf etc etc.

    The cry from the activists is trust capital, trust big business, ignore that lumped people, join the leafy suburb revolution, that is the modern Left.

    Politics as a lifestyle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,286 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    That a man who's case is in front of the attorney general, in a country where online police surviellance is substantial, who is an enemy of the almost every journalist and anti-islamophobia group is getting away with criminality broadcast to millions of people.


    You mean give him another excuse to claim persecution and grift from his followers for his legal expenses?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,507 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken




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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    You mean give him another excuse to claim persecution and grift from his followers for his legal expenses?

    That is exactly what Facebook just did.

    Just because they are class allies for the Left doesn't mean that they were right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,286 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Danzy wrote: »
    That is exactly what Facebook just did.

    Yeah but now he is not their problem any more.
    Danzy wrote: »
    Just because they are class allies for the Left doesn't mean that they were right.


    If he posted the hate speech and incitement to violence that they claim he did they were right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Yeah but now he is not their problem any more.




    If he posted the hate speech and incitement to violence that they claim he did they were right.

    Well we'll just have to go along then presume they are right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero




    Panodrama now on Youtube for anyone interested


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    Yeah because posting stuff like that would be totally out of character for tommy.

    I'm anti-TR and am glad he's been given the boot off social media but to be totally honest I wouldn't expect to see him posting anything that blatant nowadays Most of the far right guys know these days that you can't go around openly saying stuff like that, so you have to pose as a concerned citizen while pedalling a narrative that demonizes whatever your "other" of choice is.

    I wouldn't put it past TR to get hammered and post something like that then delete it straight away, but I am surprised nobody could manage to grab a screenshot. I thought he'd been kicked for something else in all honesty and would have presumed fb insta et al would have had more than enough ammunition to do so just from his esual carryon.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,457 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    RWCNT wrote: »
    I'm anti-TR and am glad he's been given the boot off social media but to be totally honest I wouldn't expect to see him posting anything that blatant nowadays Most of the far right guys know these days that you can't go around openly saying stuff like that, so you have to pose as a concerned citizen while pedalling a narrative that demonizes whatever your "other" of choice is.

    I wouldn't put it past TR to get hammered and post something like that then delete it straight away, but I am surprised nobody could manage to grab a screenshot. I thought he'd been kicked for something else in all honesty and would have presumed fb insta et al would have had more than enough ammunition to do so just from his esual carryon.

    A few here

    https://resistinghate.org/tommy-robinson-and-his-hate-tweets/

    Few more here

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=tommy+robinson+racist+tweets&prmd=niv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZh-e4x9zgAhVXSBUIHXHJBqwQ_AUoAnoECAwQAg&biw=360&bih=512&dpr=3


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT



    Those all look to be from twitter though, which he got kicked off about a year ago. Wasnt this meant to be on Fb or insta? Tbf it's possible this was done in a closed group on fb. I've been in groups before where people have got the group/their own profile taken down for sharing porn and whatnot. His fellow professional bollocks Raheem Kassan's profile was taken down and restored as well, with Fb saying it was removed in error because he was an admin in a group which violated ToS, so it's a merchantable explanation for lack of receipts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,252 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Grayson wrote: »
    It has a couple of examples here.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-facebook-ban-instagram-permanent-far-right-edl-racism-a8797451.html

    And explains that he was given a warning for his posts in January.

    Tommy's MO. Break a rule on purpose. Keep doing it. Gets warned that if he does it again there's consequences. He does it again. Consequences. Tommy whines and claims to be the victim.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭gw80


    I'm not a big fan of Tommy for my own reasons, but to be fair a lot of those quotes may not be even from Tommy Robinson but fake profiles, and your two links are basically just the same quotes repeated, and those sites are completely biased.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That documentary is quite good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    gw80 wrote: »
    I'm not a big fan of Tommy for my own reasons, but to be fair a lot of those quotes may not be even from Tommy Robinson but fake profiles, and your two links are basically just the same quotes repeated, and those sites are completely biased.
    Wait, Google is biased against Tommy Robinson?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    gw80 wrote: »
    I'm not a big fan of Tommy for my own reasons, but to be fair a lot of those quotes may not be even from Tommy Robinson but fake profiles, and your two links are basically just the same quotes repeated, and those sites are completely biased.

    They seem to be fake profiles, different twitter handles to the ones he had that year, which were surprisingly easy to find.

    His account being well monitored.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭gw80


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Wait, Google is biased against Tommy Robinson?

    "Resisting hate, building bridges" no that's not a biased site at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    gw80 wrote: »
    "Resisting hate, building bridges" no that's not a biased site at all.

    They are on the lunatic fringe of that movement.

    Have had problems with targeting Jews, homophobia etc

    Really don't like Jews.

    Not just your normal Labour level of Jew baiting either.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 746 ✭✭✭GinAndBitter


    ricero wrote: »


    Panodrama now on Youtube for anyone interested

    You would think panaroma would have had enough on the supposed racist monster that they wouldnt need to go trying to pay people to tell lies.

    I think it leaves a question mark over some of their exposes they have done in the past, this can't of been the first they were at this type of behaviour.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,204 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    You would think panaroma would have had enough on the supposed racist monster that they wouldnt need to go trying to pay people to tell lies.

    I think it leaves a question mark over some of their exposes they have done in the past, this can't of been the first they were at this type of behaviour.

    You should have realised by now that when you make a statement like that, some awkward git like me is inevitable going to come along and ask the obvious questions:

    What specific lies are you referring to? and: what proof do you have that they are actually lies?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭jeremyj1968


    I think it leaves a question mark over some of their exposes they have done in the past, this can't of been the first they were at this type of behaviour.

    To see how much John Sweeney was coaching the witness in that really is shocking. It brings the objectivity of every Panorama that he was involved in, in to question. What is particularly sinister is where he says "we can clip that bit out" when the witness mentions something she said that would a) reflect badly on her behaviour and b) might throw a bit of proper context on the interaction. I wonder how many times has he "clipped that bit out in the past"?

    Amazing how this has been absolutely buried in the mainstream. This should be a massive news story and the end of John Sweeney's career.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    If it happened to any one else it would see Panorama in crisis and heads rolling.

    It is the sort of crap that launched Robinson.

    Industrial levels of sexual assault on girls ignored for years because they were white working class girls.

    Labour didn't want to risk block votes and they were only lumpen proles anyway, the authorities didn't want to risk being labelled racists by activists, that kills careers and the activists would be their friends children, neighbours, party guests. All too awkward to bother with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Danzy wrote: »
    They are on the lunatic fringe of that movement.

    Have had problems with targeting Jews, homophobia etc

    Really don't like Jews.

    Not just your normal Labour level of Jew baiting either.

    ?

    I got the impression that most of his followers are pro Israel. There’s a lot of Israeli flags on those accounts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    gw80 wrote: »
    "Resisting hate, building bridges" no that's not a biased site at all.

    You never said one of those sites was biased, you just said "those sites" were biased, which would mean both linked to in the post you quoted... one of those two sites was Google.

    Can we agree google is not somehow biased against Tommy robinson?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    ?

    I got the impression that most of his followers are pro Israel. There’s a lot of Israeli flags on those accounts.
    Pro Israel in relation to Palestine, anti semitic in most other walks of life sums up a lot of Tommy supporters very well.

    https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/far-right-pro-tommy-robinson-websites-are-littered-with-same-antisemitic-used-by-pittsburgh-shooter-1.471868

    If they ever get those pesky Muslims out of the way, the Jews likely won't be far down their list. Because that is all Tommy robinson support is about really, shouting about minorities for things that non white people - including many associates of Tommy himself - unfortunately also do.

    The fact that not a single tommy seems at all interested to talk about his EDL pedophile buddies has already proven that in this very thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,507 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Pro Israel in relation to Palestine, anti semitic in most other walks of life sums up a lot of Tommy supporters very well.

    https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/far-right-pro-tommy-robinson-websites-are-littered-with-same-antisemitic-used-by-pittsburgh-shooter-1.471868

    If they ever get those pesky Muslims out of the way, the Jews likely won't be far down their list. Because that is all Tommy robinson support is about really, shouting about minorities for things that non white people - including many associates of Tommy himself - unfortunately also do.

    The fact that not a single tommy seems at all interested to talk about his EDL pedophile buddies has already proven that in this very thread.

    Speaking of pesky Muslims as you put it Billy how are all your old pals over at the Clonakeagh Mosque? Is our dear friend and fan of FGM Dr Ali Salim keeping well?
    Btw the Pakistani Pedos gangs in the UK for out number one or two Pedos in the EDL, not that you or the rest of your pals on here care one bit about their victims!
    Still waiting for the screen grabs of the supposed comments Tommy made?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭jeremyj1968


    Just watching through to the end now. From the start, I thought he was sensationalizing the whole thing. But he's really shown up Panorama badly here. The most fun part of the whole thing is watching John Sweeney ever increased tension as he watches each clip getting worse and worse. It's like a BBC presenter's youtube reaction video. Incredible to hear John Sweeney using the remarks that the people in his crosshairs would normally use - "those remarks were taken out of context", "that was a joke", etc

    And John Sweeney thinking he had the gotcha at the end, with the faked text!! Tommy really need to show him the video of Lucy sending the fake text, to put the cherry on the cake.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Speaking of pesky Muslims Billy boy how are all your old pals over at the Clonakeagh Mosque? Is our dear friend and fan of FGM Dr Ali Salim keeping well?
    Btw the Pakistani Pedos gangs in the UK for out number one or two Pedos in the EDL, not that you or the rest of your pals on here care one bit about their victims!
    Still waiting for the screen grabs of the supposed comments Tommy made?
    You seem to be mistaking me with someone else, but all the same thank you for proving my point for me. I can't help but notice how eager you are to immediately want to change the subject from all the pedophiles cultivated in the same EDL Tommy Robinson founded, that he (and you) have zero interest in looking at.

    You really are like clockwork. And you give zero sh*ts about that were victims in all of this, that much is very clear.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Pro Israel in relation to Palestine, anti semitic in most other walks of life sums up a lot of Tommy supporters very well.

    https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/far-right-pro-tommy-robinson-websites-are-littered-with-same-antisemitic-used-by-pittsburgh-shooter-1.471868

    If they ever get those pesky Muslims out of the way, the Jews likely won't be far down their list. Because that is all Tommy robinson support is about really, shouting about minorities for things that non white people - including many associates of Tommy himself - unfortunately also do.

    The fact that not a single tommy seems at all interested to talk about his EDL pedophile buddies has already proven that in this very thread.

    Globalist is often used by people to mean ... globalist. I’m old enough to remember anti globalist movements, of the left.

    And as for Soros he clearly has an agenda which is the opposite of nationalists.

    Clearly these fascists tend to be pro Israel though, as it is carrying out policies they agree with.

    Edit:

    In any way I think that danzy was calling hope not hate anti Semitic. I misread that.


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