Darkness int light 2018

Krispie

At the start, I will point out I believe that the cause is extremely worthy and is doing fantastic work for those affected but.......

The Darkness into Light fundraiser, €25 for a adult. Am I the only one that thinks that this is a massive price to give to a charity to do the walk. Many many families are affected by the tragedy of suicide but are not in a financial position to take part. They would love to play their part and say thank you but, at a price??

It's my opinion but, as it's not a popular one, I assume that there will be pleasant comments below. I do give to certain charities at times but I don't go online to tell all an-sundry that I have done so. I do commend the people that do take part but social media is then saturated with their stories for the following days...

I don't know if there is a facility, but I would like to think that if you can't pay, does not mean you can't do!! People will say "it's only €25" but to some that is food in the fridge or the heat on....

Give what you can, when/if you can is my point.

Hande hoche!

You can't put a price on the selfies and social media likes.

OldMrBrennan83

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WinnyThePoo

I've suffered with depression for my entire teenage and adult life. I certainly would not ask anyone to pay 25 quid. Anyway I'm sure alot of selfies will be took.

Sofiztikated

For a lot of people, it's become one of those things that you just "do" like confirmations and house parties on Good Friday. No real thought into why it's being done, just that you are doing it.

Greyfox

Krispie wrote: »

People will say "it's only €25" but to some that is food in the fridge or the heat on....

Give what you can, when/if you can is my point.

And I'm one of those people, it's €25 going to a very good cause. Obviously you can't do it if you can't spare €25.

BuboBubo

It was €20 for early registration, it's €15 for unemployed people.

The €20 fee should not have been increased imo. I reckon a lot of participants just wore last year's t-shirt and threw a few coins into a bucket.

Did it myself in Enniscorthy. Very enjoyable, great weather. Tea and biscuits afterwards in the GAA Building.

spurious

Isn't the 25 euro to cover the T shirt cost?

Hitman3000

Krispie wrote:

It's my opinion but, as it's not a popular one, I assume that there will be pleasant comments below. I do give to certain charities at times but I don't go online to tell all an-sundry that I have done so. I do commend the people that do take part but social media is then saturated with their stories for the following days...

Yes and after the women's 10k run, oops I mean mini marathon SM will be awash with selfies and inspired stories of someone who managed to battle through 10k in 2 hours. Any well known event is subject constant attention seeking on SM part of modern life.
Btw 25 euro is a lot, but it's the major fundraiser for this charity.

fergiesfolly

Sofiztikated wrote: »

For a lot of people, it's become one of those things that you just "do" like confirmations and house parties on Good Friday. No real thought into why it's being done, just that you are doing it.

Did it this morning and it certainly wasn't that. Heard so many stories as people walked and some sad souls walking in silence with the weight of the world on their shoulders.
There were people I hadn't thought of in years that came to mind this morning.

Krispie

Krispie wrote: »

The Darkness into Light fundraiser, €25 for a adult. Am I the only one that thinks that this is a massive price to give to a charity to do the walk. Many many families are affected by the tragedy of suicide but are not in a financial position to take part. They would love to play their part and say thank you but, at a price??

Aside from your own income, it depends on what percentage of the charity's income is spent on "administration"/what percentage actually goes to the people in need of support?

If that's not at St John of God/Central Remedial Clinic levels, I think it's a lovely idea at a fair price.

Sabre0001

Registration covers t-shirt and other costs, I imagine. They have more than required; they were giving away last year's shirts to people who didn't receive their shirt this year. If you'd like to do it, you could probably just join in easily enough (they're not checking registration), put some coinage in the buckets, maybe volunteer on the day if you're not in a position to contribute financially.

Oasis1974

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

I've suffered with depression for my entire teenage and adult life. I certainly would ask anyone to pay 25 quid. Anyway I'm sure alot of selfies will be took.

€25 in what way cures depression you pay for everyone else then that's a lot of cash for some people some other charitable cause with the begging bowl looking for suckers.....

Hitman3000

Oasis1974 wrote:

€25 in what way cures depression you pay for everyone else then that's a lot of cash for some people some other charitable cause with the begging bowl looking for suckers.....

The 25 euro pays towards the cost of counsellors, phone services etc. No one other than you has suggested that 25 euro is a cure for depression. Just be happy there are people whom are not as cynical as you willing to support this service. If you and members of your family are lucky you will never need the service but others do.

Fighting Tao

Yay. Another annual thread to look forward to.

Hitman3000

Fighting Tao wrote:

Yay. Another annual thread to look forward to.

Unfollow, sorted.

Mr_Muffin

It wouldn't be my kinda thing, but if it raises funds to help people and gets the community together then I can't see how it is anything but a beneficial event for all involved.

Fighting Tao

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Unfollow, sorted.

Nah. It’s fun seeing how annoyed people get about it. I just hope they don’t need assistance themselves in the future as it would be hypocritical of them to use the services this event contributes to.

Aongus Von Bismarck

Excellent idea, extremely well organised, and for a wonderful charity.

Next.

OldMrBrennan83

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JohnnyFlash

Patww79 wrote: »

If I was stumping up €25 I'd be giving it to something for a physical illness.

Or perhaps to a charity for tedious online misanthropy?

Hitman3000

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So mental illness is a figment of the imagination? Do troll more...sorry I mean do explain more.

OldMrBrennan83

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traveller0101

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Excellent idea, extremely well organised, and for a wonderful charity.

Next.

Get a good few likes yeah? Nice one

Hitman3000

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Suggesting mental health problems don't exist is beyond stupid. You opened yourself up to an accusation by your own stupidity.

OldMrBrennan83

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lertsnim

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A new way of saying you are unable to debate your stance.

petes

Already a few idiots on this thread!

LizT

I think it’s very reasonable. I went this morning and it was really well organised, loads of banners and things along the way, cup of tea and a cake at the end.

It’s not like they force people to register, anyone can show up and do the walk. Pieta house provide an invaluable service, the HSE mental health services here are stretched beyond capacity.

Collie D

Patww79 wrote: »

If I was stumping up €25 I'd be giving it to something for a physical illness.

As is your right. You see, the thing about charity is that it's voluntary and you can give your money to whichever one you choose or to none at all.

I'm starting to think giving out on social media is the new selfies on social media.

Cynicism for the sake of it.

Hande hoche!

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Yay. Another annual thread to look forward to.

Sure now that the Good Friday one is gone, need a replacement.

OldMrBrennan83

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traveller0101

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These people go walk for mental health and then go home an abuse people online. You can't make this **** up

Hitman3000

Patww79 wrote:

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Defination of a troll, saying something to get an emotive reaction. Suggesting mental health issues don't exist despite all the evidence to the contrary suggests trolling to me.

OldMrBrennan83

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Hitman3000

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So which ones don't exist in your expert opinion?

Allinall

You don’t believe/ buy into what?

It’s not clear from your post.

pleas advice

Hitman3000 wrote: »

So mental illness is a figment of the imagination?.

Hmmm

Sick of hearing about it tbh.
I could've guessed the first 4 people who'd be involved in the local one before seeing the photos.
I know people involved in Pieta House and the like and that's why I would never go near them if I need professional help.
I thought some of the stuff coming from them lately is hilarious. Apparently Pieta House want to have a centre within 100km of everyone. Go and draw some circles and see how many that actually means. The amount of money they've been raising the last while and with their profile I can't believe they don't already have it.
Also thought it was funny with a tshirt **** up. The whole thing was a moany "If you're annoyed, imagine how we feel..." followed by a list of all they've done to organise the thing.

FFS get the state funding stuff properly instead of this self-righteous look-how-good-I-am ****e.
Yes there'll be people there for the right reasons and fair play to them but overall it does my tits in.

LizT

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FFS get the state funding stuff properly instead of this self-righteous look-how-good-I-am ****e.
Yes there'll be people there for the right reasons and fair play to them but overall it does my tits in.

Spoiler alert: You’ll be waiting a while.

Ally Dick

Let's all donate money to these charities privately, instead of the need to show off the good deed all over Facebook every year. You stayed up all night. OK. You're great. Better if this was done without the plaudits to yourself.

One eyed Jack

Krispie wrote: »

At the start, I will point out I believe that the cause is extremely worthy and is doing fantastic work for those affected but.......

The Darkness into Light fundraiser, €25 for a adult. Am I the only one that thinks that this is a massive price to give to a charity to do the walk. Many many families are affected by the tragedy of suicide but are not in a financial position to take part. They would love to play their part and say thank you but, at a price??

It's my opinion but, as it's not a popular one, I assume that there will be pleasant comments below. I do give to certain charities at times but I don't go online to tell all an-sundry that I have done so. I do commend the people that do take part but social media is then saturated with their stories for the following days...

I don't know if there is a facility, but I would like to think that if you can't pay, does not mean you can't do!! People will say "it's only €25" but to some that is food in the fridge or the heat on....

Give what you can, when/if you can is my point.

I don't think anyone involved with Pieta House would encourage someone to choose between contributing to the charity, and putting food in the fridge or keeping the lights on. I know you don't mean those as specific examples, but I still wouldn't think anyone involved with Pieta House would suggest that someone should put themselves in further hardship to support the charity.

Pieta House also don't force people to participate, they organise the event to raise funds for the charity, and those who can pay, do. This isn't anything out of the ordinary for charities to organise events to raise funds for the charity which can sometimes mean tickets for an event can be up to €1,000 or more! They aren't holding anyone to ransom for their participation in the event.

As for the publicity the event generates on social media, I think that's the general idea, as opposed to people being ashamed to be seen having anything to do with the charity in question. It generates good publicity for the charity and it's free, and anyone can participate in raising awareness for the charity or contributing what they can without ever participating in the event.

Yakult

Ally Dick wrote: »

Let's all donate money to these charities privately, instead of the need to show off the good deed all over Facebook every year. You stayed up all night. OK. You're great. Better if this was done without the plaudits to yourself.

****ing do it then.


Reading some of the replies here, you would lose faith. Some of the most moany pricks around to give out about something like this, like the walk affects them and the thoughts of people coming together as a community bothers them. Who cares if people share a good deed done on facebook, it just spreads awareness of it.

Regarding the fee. Its once a year, .50cent a week. And you can do it if you want without paying.

Mint Sauce

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

It wouldn't be my kinda thing, but if it raises funds to help people and gets the community together then I can't see how it is anything but a beneficial event for all involved.

This!

So what if people put it on their facebook. Highlights the charity and more money raised. Fair play to anyone who gives their free time to a cause.

As for the registration fee. I have done serveral charity events, and all required a registration fee, or a minimum amount to be raised, even then, I would still throw them an extra twenty.

Yester

Let them take all the selfies they want and fair play to them. It all helps to raise awareness.

Choochtown

People giving out because other people feel good about themselves giving to a charity!

So f...'kin what? Someone posts a picture on social media just unfollow them.

Why be so bothered?

Hitman3000

Mint Sauce wrote:

So what if people put it on their facebook. Highlights the charity and more money raised. Fair play to anyone who gives their free time to a cause.

My brother in law put an event in FB a couple of years ago in aid of Pieta House, it was tongue in cheek but raised 1000's but equally as important raised awareness and openness. I have to ask myself what type of individual whinge about the work and services Pieta house provides.

Fighting Tao

Some people are just too miserable.

bucketybuck

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Defination of a troll, saying something to get an emotive reaction. Suggesting mental health issues don't exist despite all the evidence to the contrary suggests trolling to me.

Thats not the definition of a troll at all.

Lots of people say lots of things to get emotive reactions, but as an example, unless you think people campaigning for Repeal are also trolls then you are way off in your thinking.

Saying something you don't actually believe in order to get any reaction, that would be trolling.

_Dara_

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Or perhaps to a charity for tedious online misanthropy?

I lolled, so I did.

Hitman3000

bucketybuck wrote:

Saying something you don't actually believe in order to get any reaction, that would be trolling.

Will I find it hard to believe someone dismissing the idea of mental health as an illness is anything other than trolling. My opinion you disagree, sound.