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Darkness int light 2018

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭traveller0101


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    These people go walk for mental health and then go home an abuse people online. You can't make this **** up :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Patww79 wrote:
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    Defination of a troll, saying something to get an emotive reaction. Suggesting mental health issues don't exist despite all the evidence to the contrary suggests trolling to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Patww79 wrote:
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    So which ones don't exist in your expert opinion?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,885 ✭✭✭Allinall


    You don’t believe/ buy into what?

    It’s not clear from your post.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    So mental illness is a figment of the imagination?.

    Hmmm


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sick of hearing about it tbh.
    I could've guessed the first 4 people who'd be involved in the local one before seeing the photos.
    I know people involved in Pieta House and the like and that's why I would never go near them if I need professional help.
    I thought some of the stuff coming from them lately is hilarious. Apparently Pieta House want to have a centre within 100km of everyone. Go and draw some circles and see how many that actually means. The amount of money they've been raising the last while and with their profile I can't believe they don't already have it.
    Also thought it was funny with a tshirt **** up. The whole thing was a moany "If you're annoyed, imagine how we feel..." followed by a list of all they've done to organise the thing.

    FFS get the state funding stuff properly instead of this self-righteous look-how-good-I-am ****e.
    Yes there'll be people there for the right reasons and fair play to them but overall it does my tits in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT



    FFS get the state funding stuff properly instead of this self-righteous look-how-good-I-am ****e.
    Yes there'll be people there for the right reasons and fair play to them but overall it does my tits in.

    Spoiler alert: You’ll be waiting a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    Let's all donate money to these charities privately, instead of the need to show off the good deed all over Facebook every year. You stayed up all night. OK. You're great. Better if this was done without the plaudits to yourself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Krispie wrote: »
    At the start, I will point out I believe that the cause is extremely worthy and is doing fantastic work for those affected but.......

    The Darkness into Light fundraiser, €25 for a adult. Am I the only one that thinks that this is a massive price to give to a charity to do the walk. Many many families are affected by the tragedy of suicide but are not in a financial position to take part. They would love to play their part and say thank you but, at a price??

    It's my opinion but, as it's not a popular one, I assume that there will be pleasant comments below. I do give to certain charities at times but I don't go online to tell all an-sundry that I have done so. I do commend the people that do take part but social media is then saturated with their stories for the following days...

    I don't know if there is a facility, but I would like to think that if you can't pay, does not mean you can't do!! People will say "it's only €25" but to some that is food in the fridge or the heat on....

    Give what you can, when/if you can is my point.


    I don't think anyone involved with Pieta House would encourage someone to choose between contributing to the charity, and putting food in the fridge or keeping the lights on. I know you don't mean those as specific examples, but I still wouldn't think anyone involved with Pieta House would suggest that someone should put themselves in further hardship to support the charity.

    Pieta House also don't force people to participate, they organise the event to raise funds for the charity, and those who can pay, do. This isn't anything out of the ordinary for charities to organise events to raise funds for the charity which can sometimes mean tickets for an event can be up to €1,000 or more! They aren't holding anyone to ransom for their participation in the event.

    As for the publicity the event generates on social media, I think that's the general idea, as opposed to people being ashamed to be seen having anything to do with the charity in question. It generates good publicity for the charity and it's free, and anyone can participate in raising awareness for the charity or contributing what they can without ever participating in the event.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Ally Dick wrote: »
    Let's all donate money to these charities privately, instead of the need to show off the good deed all over Facebook every year. You stayed up all night. OK. You're great. Better if this was done without the plaudits to yourself.

    ****ing do it then.


    Reading some of the replies here, you would lose faith. Some of the most moany pricks around to give out about something like this, like the walk affects them and the thoughts of people coming together as a community bothers them. Who cares if people share a good deed done on facebook, it just spreads awareness of it.

    Regarding the fee. Its once a year, .50cent a week. And you can do it if you want without paying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Mr_Muffin wrote: »
    It wouldn't be my kinda thing, but if it raises funds to help people and gets the community together then I can't see how it is anything but a beneficial event for all involved.

    This!

    So what if people put it on their facebook. Highlights the charity and more money raised. Fair play to anyone who gives their free time to a cause.

    As for the registration fee. I have done serveral charity events, and all required a registration fee, or a minimum amount to be raised, even then, I would still throw them an extra twenty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭Yester


    Let them take all the selfies they want and fair play to them. It all helps to raise awareness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    People giving out because other people feel good about themselves giving to a charity!

    So f...'kin what? Someone posts a picture on social media just unfollow them.

    Why be so bothered?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Mint Sauce wrote:
    So what if people put it on their facebook. Highlights the charity and more money raised. Fair play to anyone who gives their free time to a cause.


    My brother in law put an event in FB a couple of years ago in aid of Pieta House, it was tongue in cheek but raised 1000's but equally as important raised awareness and openness. I have to ask myself what type of individual whinge about the work and services Pieta house provides.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Some people are just too miserable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,700 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Defination of a troll, saying something to get an emotive reaction. Suggesting mental health issues don't exist despite all the evidence to the contrary suggests trolling to me.
    Thats not the definition of a troll at all.

    Lots of people say lots of things to get emotive reactions, but as an example, unless you think people campaigning for Repeal are also trolls then you are way off in your thinking.

    Saying something you don't actually believe in order to get any reaction, that would be trolling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Or perhaps to a charity for tedious online misanthropy?

    I lolled, so I did. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Saying something you don't actually believe in order to get any reaction, that would be trolling.

    Will I find it hard to believe someone dismissing the idea of mental health as an illness is anything other than trolling. My opinion you disagree, sound.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭Testament1


    Collie D wrote: »
    As is your right. You see, the thing about charity is that it's voluntary and you can give your money to whichever one you choose or to none at all.

    I'm starting to think giving out on social media is the new selfies on social media.

    Cynicism for the sake of it.

    I'd be as cynical as they come and I've no doubt there's plenty folks doing the walk simply because it's the thing that everyone else is doing and will be delighted with their selfie likes.

    But, and this is the important bit, it still raises a significant amount of money and awareness for a vital service for an affliction that like it or not still has a stigma attached to it, at least in rural Ireland though that is slowly changing. I mean when you see volunteers patrolling the river nightly in Limerick city watching for potential jumpers then surely any funds and awareness raised for counselling services is a great thing right?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,282 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I did it last year. I couldn't do it this year.
    I did hear a lot who found it expensive and some were unable to find the OAP/Student rate this year on the website.
    Last year I found it was same selfie brigade who uploaded photo's on facebook as normal.
    Regarding the organisation I've have mixed feelings about it. Heard good and bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    You can't put a price on the selfies and social media likes.

    Yeah, it promotes the cause. Whats your point?

    Anyway son of suicide, didn't do it myself this year but fair play to all.

    Its a very very noble cause.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Yeah that's what I said.

    Do you want a real life debate Pat because i will chat with you over cup of coffee no problem?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Anyway if this thread has shown me anything is there is plenty of ***** left about...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    I did it in Dublin last year with some friends, this year I stayed local and had a lovely morning with the local community. There's been a lot of talk about it locally, creating community spirit, getting people talking to each other, so even just on that level I think its a success. The volunteers did a fantastic job lighting the way this morning, a choir singing half way round, I found it a really magical experience. There were people of all ages walking together and chatting.

    All of the walks are held on public land I believe, so if someone hasn't registered and paid, I don't think they could be stopped joining in. There were no checks to see if we had registered, everyone was welcome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Would not give a penny to any charity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭Royal Legend


    Did it this morning and it certainly wasn't that. Heard so many stories as people walked and some sad souls walking in silence with the weight of the world on their shoulders.
    There were people I hadn't thought of in years that came to mind this morning.

    Same here, the two of us do it every year, one of my best friends lost a son to suicide so mainly i do it in memory of him and all the rest of his family.

    P.S. i do post afterwards, but not selfies, i post to thank all that took part and all the volunteers that help run the event,

    its easy for some posters to be cynical on here, not nice though if you don't really know why people take part


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Would not give a penny to any charity

    Just as well you don't live in the UK then


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Wellyd


    I’ve been heavily involved in my local darkness into light for 5 years and this year was the year I decided to step back from it. Up until this year we had registration days and tshirt pick up evenings but this year that was all scrapped and moved to an online only registration. To me it took the personal approach away from it. The amount of old people who would come for a registration day and chat for half an hour about a family member. Many of these people don’t have access to the internet or credit cards to register online. We’ve sat and laughed, joked, cried and wiped tears with friends and strangers alike but this year that was gone. I can understand how the new system works for the big venues in Dublin but I honestly don’t think it suits smaller venues.


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