Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

ben.schlomo

vriesmays wrote: »

InTheShadows wrote: »

RTE is meant to be a public service broadcaster. They need to do more stuff like the show last night exposing the vermin involved in the Greyhound industry and less Fair City, dancing on snow and repeats

Like screening the women's football world cup with Ireland absent yet ignoring last months's world darts final, Republic of Ireland vs Scotland.

I'd imagine the viewing figures wouldn't be much better.

kneemos

George Lee is appointed as new science and environment correspondent.
Never ceases to be amazed by his many and varied talents.
Dunno if it's a promotion from his previous role as agriculture and environment correspondent.

No doubt agriculture will need a new separate reporter.

https://www.thejournal.ie/george-lee-rte-correspondent-4699746-Jun2019/?amp=1

inajock

And he his taking home in or around 150k

kneemos

inajock wrote: »

And he his taking home in or around 150k

He only does the odd news report. Only place I've seen him anyway.
Does he do that farming programme? Don't see it very often.

Fan of Netflix

kneemos wrote: »

George Lee is appointed as new science and environment correspondent.
Never ceases to be amazed by his many and varied talents.
Dunno if it's a promotion from his previous role as agriculture and environment correspondent.

No doubt agriculture will need a new separate reporter.

https://www.thejournal.ie/george-lee-rte-correspondent-4699746-Jun2019/?amp=1

Whats the bets his new role will entail him blathering on more about climate change and telling the audience how brilliant carbon taxes are. 150k he's on as well.

RabbleRouser2k

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Whats the bets his new role will entail him blathering on more about climate change and telling the audience how brilliant carbon taxes are. 150k he's on as well.

He has so many talents-wanted to be a politician, then didn't and walked away from politics.
Walked back into a cushy RTE gig that had better pay.

fritzelly

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

He has so many talents-wanted to be a politician, then didn't and walked away from politics.
Walked back into a cushy RTE gig that had better pay.

Yeah, being a politician was too much like hard work, not to mention he never really left RTE who basically allowed him to try another job for a year and if he didn't like he could go back arms wide open (not what leave of absence is for)

Gen.Zhukov

Just to throw in my 2c's worth in defence of the George Lee fella.
He decided to run for election on the FG ticket. He was well respected as the economics editor in RTE and he was really pissed off with the train wreck that FF had inflicted on the country.

So he gets elected. He starts to try and get stuff done in the new FG govt. Then discovers that due to the complete f/up that is Irish politics, he can't do a thing from the inside. He realises that he's just expected to stfu and stick his snout into the trough too. I think that's why he left and iirc, he had the integrity to refuse to receive a pension/something else(?)

fritzelly

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

Then discovers that due to the complete f/up that is Irish politics, he can't do a thing from the inside. He realises that he's just expected to stfu and stick his snout into the trough too. I think that's why he left and iirc, he had the integrity to refuse to receive a pension/something else(?)

Seriously? Has he been living under a rock his whole life - he should have known better, that was just an excuse for an out.

Atlantic Dawn

If they spent €7 million on the Womens World Cup someone needs to go for that decision, that's €135k a game, crazy crazy crazy.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/rte-and-tg4-to-show-all-52-matches-in-fifa-womens-world-cup-38179302.html

elperello

Pretty good account of G Lee and FG.

Here is a bit more -
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/george-lee-describes-his-political-career-as-being-like-a-lamb-to-the-slaughter-35621208.html

I always found him to be a competent journalist.

kneemos

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

Just to throw in my 2c's worth in defence of the George Lee fella.
He decided to run for election on the FG ticket. He was well respected as the economics editor in RTE and he was really pissed off with the train wreck that FF had inflicted on the country.

So he gets elected. He starts to try and get stuff done in the new FG govt. Then discovers that due to the complete f/up that is Irish politics, he can't do a thing from the inside. He realises that he's just expected to stfu and stick his snout into the trough too. I think that's why he left and iirc, he had the integrity to refuse to receive a pension/something else(?)

It was a publicity stunt. FG told him he could come in and dictate economic policy,he was naive enough to believe them.
When he discovered he couldn't walk in over the heads of those who had put in the years of grunt work he became disillusioned and talked about false promises.

goose2005

joeysoap wrote: »

What station and when? Monday and Tuesday this week 4,30 - 10,30 rte 2. I can’t see it advertised on bbc. I watch bbc fairly often and never saw it mentioned bar an odd news clip. As for the other stations, the cricket World Cup is getting more coverage.

minor games were put on BBC Four.

The Late Late Show

Boggles wrote: »

Bit nonsensical comparing the likes of HBO with RTE.

Game of Thrones was $15m an episode.

BBC have way higher budgets too, around 5 billion.

RTE needs to be attacked with a chainsaw, but it's silly trying to compare with massive media outlets.

Ireland gave us Love/Hate with a smaller much smaller budget. They can make decent drama when given the right conditions as Love/Hate proved. The REASON Ireland's post-Love/Hate drama is so poor is not because of budgets but because idiots listened to the complaints about violence in Love/Hate. They took that onboard, cancelled Love/Hate and gave us tame, vacuous drivel like Striking Out and Finding Joy instead.

Atlantic Dawn

The Late Late Show wrote: »

Ireland gave us Love/Hate with a smaller much smaller budget. They can make decent drama when given the right conditions as Love/Hate proved. The REASON Ireland's post-Love/Hate drama is so poor is not because of budgets but because idiots listened to the complaints about violence in Love/Hate. They took that onboard, cancelled Love/Hate and gave us tame, vacuous drivel like Striking Out and Finding Joy instead.

Yes and they have so much real life feuds going on in the country that such shows could literally write themselves, petrol bombings, shootings, hatchet wedding attacks, we have it all, no need to produce some PC bull**** that appeals to the 5%.

fritzelly

Think people are giving RTE too much credit for Love/Hate - was nothing to do with them and made by an independent production company

Fair City is RTE's level of production values

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Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Yes and they have so much real life feuds going on in the country that such shows could literally write themselves, petrol bombings, shootings, hatchet wedding attacks, we have it all, no need to produce some PC bull**** that appeals to the 5%.

Exactly. It is the SAME 5% who complain about the violence of Love/Hate that love those things like Striking Out and who those programmes are made for. A Better Call Saul-type legal drama could have been done instead as a Love/Hate offshoot and Striking Out was a lost opportunity. Likewise, Taken Down: cannot help but think if it was made a few years earlier, it would have been so much better.

RTE's defenders often say that they do not have the budget when one downs their dramas and say they cannot be compared to Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, The Handmaid's Tale, Peaky Blinders, McMafia, Better Call Saul, etc. Love/Hate disproves that: this was a great drama with the budget it had and proved Ireland can do good drama when they go with their instinct and do not try and conform to an agenda such as toning down the violence.

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fritzelly wrote: »

Think people are giving RTE too much credit for Love/Hate - was nothing to do with them and made by an independent production company

Fair City is RTE's level of production values

I know that but RTE allowed it to be shown and didn't censor the violence. Today, it would not be allowed by RTE and a toned down version would be requested. That's what I'd say happened to Taken Down.

Atlantic Dawn

The funny thing is RTE Entertainment pages running full daily commentary on Love Island, talk about shooting yourself in the foot to the advantage of your competition, Virgin Media One must find it comical.

fritzelly

Interesting reading
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/rt%C3%A9-spent-41-million-on-independent-productions-in-2018-1.3919986

Most of the obligatory local investment is spent on ****e and lining the pockets of so called stars! That money should be earmarked for dramas and the ilk and not cheap imitations of UK shows that just do not work here in a tiny island (think even VM realised that with IGT)

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fritzelly wrote: »

Interesting reading
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/rt%C3%A9-spent-41-million-on-independent-productions-in-2018-1.3919986

Most of the obligatory local investment is spent on ****e and lining the pockets of so called stars! That money should be earmarked for dramas and the ilk and not cheap imitations of UK shows that just do not work here in a tiny island (think even VM realised that with IGT)

These talent shows have clogged up our TV for decades now. First in 2001 it was Pop Stars. Then in 2002, it became known as You're A Star. After that, it became known as The All Ireland Talent Show and then The Voice of Ireland. It then changed from RTE to TV3/Virgin and was called Ireland's Got Talent. All Louis Walsh-related drivel. The same show with the same judges under different names. Horrible stuff and much worse than the UK shows it copied (they are bad too but Ireland made them worse!!).

fritzelly

And they have to pay to licence the format - millions of euros

Atlantic Dawn

The Late Late Show wrote: »

These talent shows have clogged up our TV for decades now. First in 2001 it was Pop Stars. Then in 2002, it became known as You're A Star. After that, it became known as The All Ireland Talent Show and then The Voice of Ireland. It then changed from RTE to TV3/Virgin and was called Ireland's Got Talent. All Louis Walsh-related drivel. The same show with the same judges under different names. Horrible stuff and much worse than the UK shows it copied (they are bad too but Ireland made them worse!!).

The €2 a text is like the church collection, gold for them.

Mehapoy

Elmo wrote: »

It's in the Annual Report from 2018, Dee Forbes statement on the 7.2 million is based around RTÉ coverage of The World Cup 2018, The Pope's Visit, The Referendum and The Presidential Election.

In the 2019 Annual Report RTÉ will happily blame the Women's World Cup even though they were only showing half of it, and also the Local and European Elections. Just as they blamed 1916 celebrations for their losses in their 2016 Annual Report.

Lets hope we don't have a general election before the end of the year because that would cause RTÉ to blame that also.

Trust me if I did, I wouldn't be spending 24million on imported programming, that no one is watching and that everyone can get from other sources.

So basically they are saying the deficit is from showing stuff that happens in Ireland which is actually their remit for existing! How about they still show stuff thats happening in Ireland but cut d'arcy, tubridy et al

Atlantic Dawn

Did they invest the €100million money for the lands for a steady return or just wash themselves with it like Scrooge McDuck.

fritzelly

Nothing like RTE defending itself

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4263437/rte-journalist-tv-licence-fee-online-rant-twitter/

RabbleRouser2k

fritzelly wrote: »

Nothing like RTE defending itself

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4263437/rte-journalist-tv-licence-fee-online-rant-twitter/

His defence has so many holes, I almost expect him to make a 'documentary' about it.
One riddled with cavities and false 'facts'.

kneemos

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Did they invest the €100million money for the lands for a steady return or just wash themselves with it like Scrooge McDuck.

Was curious about that. Forty million surplus in 2017 from the hundred million they got the previous year,yet a thirteen million deficit last year.
Presumably it went into loan payments or equipment purchase or something?

InTheShadows

fritzelly wrote: »

Nothing like RTE defending itself

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4263437/rte-journalist-tv-licence-fee-online-rant-twitter/

Or someone posting a link to that rag.

Kivaro

InTheShadows wrote: »

Or someone posting a link to that rag.

It was only reporting what he tweeted.

Here you go, this may be more a palatable source for your discernible tastes:
RTE's Philip Boucher Hayes deleted 'sponger' tweets when he realised there was an error in the figures.