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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*
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end of the road wrote: »it seems strange on the face of it, but it will come down to whether that spend actually does make a loss or not.
So you telling me the World Cup that was one of their most watch events were they were selling ads at a premium made a loss? And that Imported Programming that airs after mid-night, of which some don't take advertising and other less advertising and while some shows are unavailable on the Player which in turn only generates the kind of audience of a plus one service?
but again if rte is to provide new services then it is going to have to keep the rte 2 transmitter to provide at least 1 of them and probably scrap rte 1+1 and jr to provide the others. so really as i said there is nothing to move to the commercial sector once you strip out what rte will need to provide the new services you propose.
Yes, they should scrap RTÉ ONE +1, and replace it with RTÉ Gold. RTÉ News Now would merge with Oireachtas TV and provide some live sports.
As I said RTÉjr would merge with TG4 who would become the Public Service Media provider for Children's Content, Film and Irish Language on both Radio and TV. TG4 would have TG4, RTÉjr and the Irish Film Channel as separate channels. (Plus RnaG and RTÉjr Radio, Chill replace by Radio RiRa)
RTÉ2, 2FM etc would become a new service with almost all of RTÉ's imports going to the new service along with some sports like Champions League. National Sports would most likely have to stay with RTÉ and TG4.what competition would it introduce? there is plenty of competition within the tv market as a whole whatever about in ireland, and there is only a small amount of actual quality programming produced. ireland is a small tv market and saorview is able to take a number of stations if it wishes to do so, yet how many providers are queueing up to jump on? the last i heard none unless some have come forward recently. the reason why virgin media won't make changes to it's content is because it doesn't have to. it's a commercial business so is only going to provide what makes money. rte on the other hand is expected to be both commercial and public service at the same time, so are going to try and bring in as much commercial income as they can get. we may disagree with it being that way but until everyone complains enough to force the government to allow rte to focus on ps only then i can't see anything changing.
TV market in Ireland in squashed by opt-out advertising, by introducing a new Irish Service you might being to see Irish TV grow a bit of an audience rather than 55% staying with English TV.
Why would foreign channels come in when they can just take ad revenue from Ireland via their English channels, while also getting money from cable and satellite companies for carriage? This is why RTÉ2 is strongly placed to take an independent position on Saorview.
I am not foolish enough to think that any Irish station could run a 24 hour station of just Irish programming. But more Irish content could be provided.
Virgin Media and RTÉ with an independent home competitor RTÉ2 would have a strong competitor and they would have to improve. Otherwise their market share will continue to decline.yes but you aren't going to be able to fit all of those national services. rte 2xm, and the the BAI are proposing.
I am only suggesting 2XM, the FM services will remain the same, RTÉ2fm will have those extra digital stations. what are the BAI proposing, to do absolutely nothing as they have always done?even so, something like rte pulse is unlikely to be commercially viable. even 2xm is unlikely to be as it seems to be a lot broader then tx/phantom. 8 radio could be licenced to go after the phantom/tx market. and 2xm could provide a much broader offering as part of rte.
Again I am suggesting that RTÉ2 (including digital station) would be limited by their contract, as to what they could provided 2XM, PULSE and 2FM would have to provide a certain level of public service broadcast in term of music and content rather than in terms of current affairs and news. TV wise it would have to provide programming to 8 -12 under TRTÉ.so it can be changed to provide the gold service you propose.
RTÉ Gold radio would remain largely the same but RTÉ would have to have a number of programmes from the archives such as the Doc On 1 or a look back at radio from the past along with the currently line up. They would also have a sister TV channel which would replace RTÉ 1+1.that is not surprising. rte is in a position where it is expected to appeal to everyone when that is just not possible. rte is expected to be both commercial and public service at the same time. how can they make changes when in reality by the looks of it at least, they have little support from all sides?
I still bring it down to the 24 million. Yes RTÉ have to be everything to everyone and they can't be that. But they have shown in the past that they want to do that.
Not everything will be new, not everything will be Irish but RTÉ should be able to provide some of the services that they are not providing.
They should be able to invest in High quality drama and Children's Content.
Any none of this will happen. so I don't know why I am arguing it.
At the end of the day RTÉ is not fit for purpose and they are unwilling to make cuts in certain areas where cuts should be made.
The Reform has be come from both RTÉ and the licence fee, as it currently stands.0 -
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end of the road wrote: »perhapse the events did cause the losses. i don't know. perhapse some of their imported content either caused or are part of the losses, again i don't know. i do think however that rte would have some idea of what is causing their losses however. if it turns out they aren't being truthful, then by all means they should be called out on that.
I am calling them out on this. You can't just take one aspect of you business and blame it, particularly when it looks as if they generally did a good job and also seem to have budgeted quiet well for those events. You have to look at your organisation as a whole.
RTÉ since 2003 have ring fence imported programming, unlike any other form of content, Dee Forbes suggest she has to take a look at cuts across the board, yet RTÉ will possible pay 25million for imports this year and the next. They are not worth this for a variety of reasons, but also you have to make cuts.i don't know how you use it correctly. either it has an audience or it doesn't surely?
Promote them (imported programming), air it in prime time locations, put it on them all on the Player and have the player work.tbh repeats are the way for many many tv channels unfortunately. just looking at all of the non-irish ones, nothing but repeats on many of them. so the solution is to focus the channel on other programming rather then giving it to the commercial sector to pump more of the same dross..
Both the BBC and Channel 4 have to report how many repeats they have on BBC 1, 2 and Channel 4, they have certain commitments to meet on their main public service channels. AFAIR BBC1 only has 3% of repeats, BBC2 has 25% while Channel 4 has 9% repeats during prime time TV. This compares to 25% on RTÉ ONE (remove news and it gets to 50%) and RTÉ2 has 55% repeats, this is a crazy amount for the main service, extra channels are in their nature repeat channels. (During Prime time hours, look at BBC and Channel 4 Annual reports for reference).ultimately it doesn't and shouldn't matter, but unfortunately the way everything is set up means that the BAI get to interfear beyond simply providing a licence. a proper market would have saw the likes of 4fm off the air years ago for example. that is how it should be.
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But yes, suppose they had to change and the BAI let them, sin é.so again refocus their programming remit
That's something RTÉ could do tomorrow, they choose not to and have let RTÉ2 languish and 2fm spend millions for very little return.if they bought in less, you would have people complaining that they aren't doing enough to survive by trying to bring in programming of commercial value.
People don't see the vast majority of programmes that they buy in, RTÉ don't promote them and don't seem to have any real interest in them unless they are massive shows.who supports the creation of jobs in the film and tv industry as it is? tv i believe isn't exactly the easiest industry to get into.
Children's Content is a key aspect of getting into the industry. RTÉ choose to cut its funding by 75%, when they said they would not be cutting funding to children's content, a hard industry to get into made even harder by decisions such as spending 25m on imported programming (that's nearly TG4's total budget for commissions!!!!).yes but chill is within their remit. music that is not commercially viable but provides choice all be it to a small audience. ergo minority programming.
As is Radio RiRa.or rte 2 and + 1 could provide some other rte service. if there is room for more commercial channels the commercial sector will set them up themselves.
Well then RTÉ need to improve RTÉ2, its that simple, alternatively move it away from RTÉ, you could have said the same thing when Channel 4 set up.i believe tv3 did have the odd australian show. presumably other then what they did have, tv3, and now virgin media feel there is no audience hence they are going to put on what they believe is guaranteed to have an audience. they are a commercial business.
I am talking about during the period when TV3 did not have their ITV programmes.0 -
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