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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,558 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Im sorry, not really...i could only stomach a few minutes of it....

    basically 5 odious people sitting around telling unfunny stories and fake laughing really loudly to make up for the lack of an audience....

    I actually cant describe how bad it was....

    I had to vent on here.....

    Amazing that people pay the licence fee...

    So just for clarity are you saying that you didn't watch the programme you are so critical of?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    elperello wrote: »
    So just for clarity are you saying that you didn't watch the programme you are so critical of?

    I tried....gave it maybe 5 minutes....

    There was no way I was watching anymore...

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    I tried....gave it maybe 5 minutes....

    There was no way I was watching anymore...
    I saw the promo for it. It should come with a parental guidance warning. Looking at that Senator Lynn Ruane one and her false laugh was actually scary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,579 ✭✭✭jmcc


    I tried....gave it maybe 5 minutes....

    There was no way I was watching anymore...
    You'll probably be counted as 500 viewers by RTE for advertising purposes. :)

    The best thing that RTE could do, rather than run that dire Tubridy LLS, would be to give licence payers a free Netflix subscription.

    Regards...jmcc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,157 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Ireland's national broadcaster not even aware where the border is.
    Height of laziness and/or ignorance.

    ErKMMrxXYAA_i5c?format=jpg&name=small

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/tv/rte-news-viewers-left-baffled-23283596


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,117 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Skyfloater wrote: »
    There's barely enough news on our small island to fill the half hour slot. How many times do you want them to repeat the same bit of news they do have?

    The six one and nine o clock news are the same just with different presenters. The only slight difference this week was wednesdays 9oclock news with the riots in washington and even then the reporter didnt seem to have a clue what was going on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,478 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    retalivity wrote: »
    Ireland's national broadcaster not even aware where the border is.
    Height of laziness and/or ignorance.

    ErKMMrxXYAA_i5c?format=jpg&name=small

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/tv/rte-news-viewers-left-baffled-23283596

    The headline is worse , as if we’re “baffled “ at this , sitting at home scratching our heads shouting “how can this beeeeeee”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    How long does it take to become comfortable in RTÉ?

    https://twitter.com/WilliamsJon/status/1347236494721822724?s=19


  • Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Elmo wrote: »
    How long does it take to become comfortable in RTÉ?

    https://twitter.com/WilliamsJon/status/1347236494721822724?s=19

    He “doth protest too much, methinks"

    Did the same thing happen in the Beeb? I think not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,725 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    RTÉ repeating ‘The Test’ again....

    Monday night at 8:30pm - prime time slot you’d say.....

    It's because they can't compete with the soap operas (Coronation Street is on the same time, at 8.30).

    If RTE put a new programme on at that time-it'll be buried, and a waste of money that they're already struggling to hold onto.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,536 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Elmo wrote: »
    How long does it take to become comfortable in RTÉ?

    https://twitter.com/WilliamsJon/status/1347236494721822724?s=19

    The Oireachtais and the High Court are not public service broadcasters.

    Disgraceful output over the Xmas and New Year period, it nothing new there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Two things

    1. I feel lucky to have a regular 9 - 5 last year & now this month
    2. I was lucky enough to take off on 22 dec and return the 4th Jan

    As for not competing with coro st, not a great move but not everyone watches soaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,117 ✭✭✭✭neris


    RTÉ repeating ‘The Test’ again....

    Monday night at 8:30pm - prime time slot you’d say.....

    See they Mrs Browns new year "special" repeated again this week aswell. OCarroll really is stealing a living off the BBC & RTE with that tripe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,725 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Elmo wrote: »
    Two things

    1. I feel lucky to have a regular 9 - 5 last year & now this month
    2. I was lucky enough to take off on 22 dec and return the 4th Jan

    As for not competing with coro st, not a great move but not everyone watches soaps.

    They bet against them, once-and lost heavily. RTE I mean.

    Main problem is advertising-advertisers just won't pay to have their adverts aired during that time slot, because they know the audiences won't be there. They can pay to advertise on Corrie, which is more costly, but guarantees a wide audience.

    For example, say a couple are living in a house, and only one watches the soaps. But the other person will be sitting on the couch, watching their phone or working on a tablet, while their partner watches Corrie or Emmerdale (to name a few different soaps).
    Advertisers have managed to reach both people, with a little extra spending.
    Now multiply that by 500,000 (the average audience for one episode of Corrie).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    They bet against them, once-and lost heavily. RTE I mean.

    Main problem is advertising-advertisers just won't pay to have their adverts aired during that time slot, because they know the audiences won't be there. They can pay to advertise on Corrie, which is more costly, but guarantees a wide audience.

    For example, say a couple are living in a house, and only one watches the soaps. But the other person will be sitting on the couch, watching their phone or working on a tablet, while their partner watches Corrie or Emmerdale (to name a few different soaps).
    Advertisers have managed to reach both people, with a little extra spending.
    Now multiply that by 500,000 (the average audience for one episode of Corrie).

    They did which show?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,725 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Elmo wrote: »
    They did which show?

    Remember Treasure Island? Or Treasure Ireland?

    RTE's answer to Survivor?

    Well, RTe had the show all set up for a Sunday. Sponsors and advertisers had paid up in advance, RTE had the schedule set (roughly months in advance too), the adverts were running, big money was paid down. Money was spent on NDA's so nobody would reveal who'd won etc.

    Then Coronation Street announced that they were doing an episode, and it would be an hour long special that would air on Sunday. And it was set to air at the same time as the first episode of Treasure Island (IReland?) because the subject matter was rather sensitive. (Something about internet predators. Didn't go dark, or portray anything nasty-but the subject matter required them to show it later than normal).

    Well, RTe had promised advertisers viewership in the 500, 000+ mark. The got less than half of that. And so advertisers wanted their money back. Or to get free advertising during another program with a guaranteed viewership.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Remember Treasure Island? Or Treasure Ireland?

    RTE's answer to Survivor?

    Well, RTe had the show all set up for a Sunday. Sponsors and advertisers had paid up in advance, RTE had the schedule set (roughly months in advance too), the adverts were running, big money was paid down. Money was spent on NDA's so nobody would reveal who'd won etc.

    Then Coronation Street announced that they were doing an episode, and it would be an hour long special that would air on Sunday. And it was set to air at the same time as the first episode of Treasure Island (IReland?) because the subject matter was rather sensitive. (Something about internet predators. Didn't go dark, or portray anything nasty-but the subject matter required them to show it later than normal).

    Well, RTe had promised advertisers viewership in the 500, 000+ mark. The got less than half of that. And so advertisers wanted their money back. Or to get free advertising during another program with a guaranteed viewership.

    It is slightly different now and even then I have issues with the explanation though I understand it.

    1. RTÉ ONE's prime time schedule (6 - 11) is made up of 25% repeats
    2. RTÉ2's prime time schedule is made up of 55% repeats
    3. When you exclude News from RTÉ ONE's prime time schedule 50% of programmes are repeats.
    4. When you exclude News from RTÉ2 .... well there is no news on RTÉ2

    None of those 4 facts are due to Covid. This has been the case for at least a decade.

    I'd argue Treasure Island (a New Zealand Suvivour knock off) is likely to attract the same type of people that watch Shortland Street (A New Zealand Knock off of Coronation Street).

    I'd also argue, even back then, both RTÉ ONE and 2 should provided quality alternatives to TV3 (An Irish knock off of New Zealand's TV3) regardless of audience.

    See what I did there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,725 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Elmo wrote: »
    It is slightly different and even then I have issues with the explanation though I understand it.

    1. RTÉ ONE's prime time schedule (6 - 11) is made up of 25% repeats
    2. RTÉ2's prime time schedule is made up of 55% repeats
    3. When you exclude News from RTÉ ONE's prime time schedule 50% of programmes are repeats.
    4. When you exclude News from RTÉ2 .... well there is no news on RTÉ2

    None of those 4 facts are due to Covid. This has been the case for at least a decade.

    I'd argue Treasure Island (a New Zealand Suvivour knock off) is likely to attract the same type of people that watch Shortland Street (A New Zealand Knock off of Coronation Street).

    I'd also agure even back then both RTÉ ONE and 2 should provided quality alternatives to TV3 (An Irish knock off of New Zealand's TV3) regardless of audience.

    See what I did there!

    They just know it's a losing battle to air anything in those timeslots. 9pm to 10/11 pm was also a complete disaster when Game of Thrones was popular. People turned over the Sky Atlantic to watch the show. RTE had nothing to offer. Treasure Island was their roughest lesson that the new millenium would bring new challenges. And they fell at the first hurdle.

    It's long been established that RTE 2 is a deadzone. They don't even have a children's channel. They've let that channel die. The RTE player gets more help, and we all know what shape that's in.
    The supposed 'target age group' have far more options-RTE 2 is a relic now.

    Similar to the last economic crash in 2008, the News on RTE tends to be the most watched program RTE produce. Especially when it comes to people wondering if they'll have a job tomorrow morning.
    But folks are noticing the bias creeping in. Family member's I know often tune into the BBC to get a better representation of the news... and even with the BBC's bias's, they're still less biased than RTE.

    VM1 is more adaptive... but VM2 and VM3 are just graveyards for repeats. In the same bad shape as RTE 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    They just know it's a losing battle to air anything in those timeslots. 9pm to 10/11 pm was also a complete disaster when Game of Thrones was popular. People turned over the Sky Atlantic to watch the show. RTE had nothing to offer. Treasure Island was their roughest lesson that the new millenium would bring new challenges. And they fell at the first hurdle.

    RTÉ should at least try to put something different in those timeslots rather than just give up, I am not saying they should but their biggest shows at that time but they should put something up. I would suggest that TV3's Apprentice caused RTÉ2 in particular to loose faith in their own shows, and giving up on the Monday Night 9pm slot.
    It's long been established that RTE 2 is a deadzone. They don't even have a children's channel. They've let that channel die. The RTE player gets more help, and we all know what shape that's in.
    The supposed 'target age group' have far more options-RTE 2 is a relic now.

    To me its a DEADZONE because RTÉ decided to give up on RTÉ2. They have nearly no original programming on the channel, and for the last 10 years have insisted on repeating RTÉ ONE's big Sunday night family entertainment shows.

    Watch the RTÉ Player programmes start to deplete as someone in RTÉ suggests "well people have some many options now and really those Doireann Garrihy shows are good but no matter what we do we just can seem to tap that audience .... may be we should just I suppose I don't know GIVE UP, was I paid this week and anyone know when my next holiday is?"
    Similar to the last economic crash in 2008, the News on RTE tends to be the most watched program RTE produce. Especially when it comes to people wondering if they'll have a job tomorrow morning.
    But folks are noticing the bias creeping in. Family member's I know often tune into the BBC to get a better representation of the news... and even with the BBC's bias's, they're still less biased than RTE.

    Because RTÉ have given up on any other type of programming since 2009.
    VM1 is more adaptive... but VM2 and VM3 are just graveyards for repeats. In the same bad shape as RTE 2.

    Is VM1 more adaptive? When did this happen? Must have been that time they didn't broadcast Judge Judy. or more so the time the ran around like headless chickens on the arrival of UTV Ireland. Much like UTV Ireland they seem unable to broadcast many of the ITV shows they own, WWTBAM and The Chase both out of sync with ITV, and a number of other shows. There own programming depleted over the last 3 years with the return of Coro St and Emmerdale.

    VM2 and VM3 were always going to be repeats but they should invest sometime as to what programmes they should repeat, because their isn't much difference between any of the Virgin Media Channels.

    The only broadcaster taking risks is TG4 and even then I would say that they don't push it and have some of their own problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭99nsr125


    retalivity wrote: »
    Ireland's national broadcaster not even aware where the border is.
    Height of laziness and/or ignorance.

    ErKMMrxXYAA_i5c?format=jpg&name=small

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/tv/rte-news-viewers-left-baffled-23283596

    That'd be hilarious if it wasn't so sad


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    99nsr125 wrote: »
    That'd be hilarious if it wasn't so sad

    The Irish government did the same thing a few years back on some educational materials.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,827 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Maybe all the Donegal boyo’s knew something was up hence their yellow reg plates.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,080 ✭✭✭gifted


    Anyone know where Micheál Lehane has gone too? Not the same watching the news without him giving the political report.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭jippo nolan


    gifted wrote: »
    Anyone know where Micheál Lehane has gone too? Not the same watching the news without him giving the political report.

    I think he’s like Dracula, he only comes out at night!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    McGaggs wrote: »
    The Irish government did the same thing a few years back on some educational materials.

    I'd say the graphics are produced in London


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Elmo wrote: »
    I'd say the graphics are produced in London
    I'm trying to zoom in to see if RTE have Rockall in Brit colours?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    retalivity wrote: »
    Ireland's national broadcaster not even aware where the border is.
    Height of laziness and/or ignorance.

    ErKMMrxXYAA_i5c?format=jpg&name=small

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/tv/rte-news-viewers-left-baffled-23283596

    Looks like Donegal and Leitrim don't need to pay the rte licence fee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,536 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    McGaggs wrote: »
    Looks like Donegal and Leitrim don't need to pay the rte licence fee.

    Donegal don’t pay the State too much, in fairness.

    Not too many of them heard of Howley.........:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Claire Byrne coming from outside the mater tonight I see.... Really tearin the hole out of it.. What purpose can this stuff possibly serve??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Donegal don’t pay the State too much, in fairness.

    Not too many of them heard of Howley.........:D

    Who's Howley?


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