Enraged

cfuserkildare

If this is happening on a daily basis, then Why do we still deal with these people?
The content in the article below implies that the Indian nation is guilty of Ethnic Cleansing!!

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-views-india-must-change-how-it-treats-women-if-it-wants-to-cure-its-rape-problem-11335882

Sin City

Absolutely sickened

cfuserkildare

The excuse they gave is that because the women are Nomadic Muslims, then they are Expendable!!
Raping and killing young children with the intent of Driving the Muslims away!!!
And yet Sooo many countries in the west have outsourced critical services to such a race!!!!
Utterly disgusted!!

Uncharted

Pure and utter filth.... as per usual,they will latch onto some stupid 'reasoning' for their actions.

They should be annihilated from this planet.

Vile vile disgusting filth does this,there is no other explanation. ......end of.

Kuva

Going on along time now. One place I'd never step foot in.

We only hear the odd case.

kneemos

It's like he woke up one day and discovered India.

You should read some more on the place,in particular the caste system.

Hector Bellend

To state that women are second class citizens here is a sickening understatement.

How do you change that?

Graces7

Hector Bellend wrote: »

To state that women are second class citizens here is a sickening understatement.

How do you change that?

You cannot. Change it I mean. My "family" are in India, gathering in newborn baby girls from rubbish heaps. No birth control or abortion ( only now they use late term abortion ; girls only lest they prevent a precious boy ... Girls need dowries you see.

Gang rape is a common thing too .

Be aware and help those who are trying to support and help

garbo speaks

...and here we have nutjob feminazis saying we have a rape culture ...

cfuserkildare

kneemos wrote: »

It's like he woke up one day and discovered India.

You should read some more on the place,in particular the caste system.

Am Well aware of the Caste System,
But I still do not understand why we are still dealing with such a perverse society, when we should just cut them off,
No more Outsourcing to them, No more dealing with tehm until they stop this and drag their society back into the 21st century.

racso1975

garbo speaks wrote: »

...and here we have nutjob feminazis saying we have a rape culture ...

Well so long as we are a rung above them on the ladder that's ok!!! Just cause you are better then the worst does not mean until are good

From that article:

Police allege the Hindu men who killed the eight-year-old in Kashmir targeted her because she was from a nomadic Muslim community they wanted to drive away.

They believed her background made her disposable.

Again and again across the world it always starts with one group successfully dehumanising members of another group. Dehumanisation didn't start and end with the Nazis. The Irish shouldn't need to be reminded of that.

What group is being dehumanised in our society today, in 2018, and how is that making it easier to mistreat them? Beware anybody who wants to dehumanise any group. That's always where the justifications for murder and savagery begin.

garbo speaks

racso1975 wrote: »

Well so long as we are a rung above them on the ladder that's ok!!! Just cause you are better then the worst does not mean until are good

There is no comparison between the way women are treated in Ireland, and the way women are treated in India. We are far more above them than "a rung" as you suggest.

Mr. Incognito

I used to get offended by all these things

Now I dont read them and I drink my tea with custard creams in the afternoons instead

I am much happier

Shenshen

garbo speaks wrote: »

There is no comparison between the way women are treated in Ireland, and the way women are treated in India. We are far more above them than "a rung" as you suggest.

If you actually start counting the rungs, I suspect you entirely missed the point of that post.

the dark phantom

Sub continent sub human

Graces7

cfuserkildare wrote: »

Am Well aware of the Caste System,
But I still do not understand why we are still dealing with such a perverse society, when we should just cut them off,
No more Outsourcing to them, No more dealing with tehm until they stop this and drag their society back into the 21st century.

Then you punish the wrong people and cause more deprivation and suffering to innocents.

na1

the dark phantom wrote: »

Sub continent sub human

Indians could say the same about Ireland. Because  this county doesn't meet their expectation of the "normal" society

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

cfuserkildare wrote: »

Am Well aware of the Caste System,
But I still do not understand why we are still dealing with such a perverse society, when we should just cut them off,
No more Outsourcing to them, No more dealing with tehm until they stop this and drag their society back into the 21st century.

Having seen how they operate, first hand, I refuse to support any charity in India. The Government there needs to get its act together. A country with nuclear capabilities, a space programme and many of the richest people in the world yet we send people and money to work with their poor. The international community has to stand up to them and bring pressure to have them mend their ways. And I don't accept that it's their 'culture'.

Franz Von Peppercorn

cfuserkildare wrote: »

Am Well aware of the Caste System,
But I still do not understand why we are still dealing with such a perverse society, when we should just cut them off,
No more Outsourcing to them, No more dealing with tehm until they stop this and drag their society back into the 21st century.

India is multi faceted. The countryside is radically different from the cities and we outsource to the cities. And notice how they are in fact demonstrating. Some regional police are suspect but the federal police will solve this. Hopefully these guys are jailed for life or get the death penalty.

Franz Von Peppercorn

[Deleted User] wrote: »

From that article:



Again and again across the world it always starts with one group successfully dehumanising members of another group. Dehumanisation didn't start and end with the Nazis. The Irish shouldn't need to be reminded of that.

What group is being dehumanised in our society today, in 2018, and how is that making it easier to mistreat them? Beware anybody who wants to dehumanise any group. That's always where the justifications for murder and savagery begin.

Russians.

Franz Von Peppercorn

na1 wrote: »

Indians could say the same about Ireland. Because  this county doesn't meet their expectation of the "normal" society

I don’t think most Indians would in fact see the rape as normal.

This is more disturbing that I thought. Looks like members of the ruling party protested the arrest of the perpetrators.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/17/india-rapes-damaged-divided-nation-hindu-nationalism

cfuserkildare

cfuserkildare wrote: »

But I still do not understand why we are still dealing with such a perverse society, when we should just cut them off,

You can't hold all of any people responsible for the acts of the few. There are a billion people in India, and the very, very, vast majority of them are as decent and good as any other people.

It's a huge and diverse country, and there are places that bear no resemblance at all to anywhere else in the country. It's not one homogeneous society or culture.

na1

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

na1 wrote: »

Indians could say the same about Ireland. Because  this county doesn't meet their expectation of the "normal" society

I don’t think most Indians would in fact see the rape as normal.

Where did I say that rape is normal in India?
On the other hand there is no "normal" behavior for every single society.
In some Papua New Guinea tribes it is normal to buy a wife for a pig. And feminism is considered retarded.

Summer wind

Anyone that rapes an 8 month old baby or child should be castrated and strung up by their balls.

The Old Guy

Makes you glad to live in Ireland. Keep these savages out.

andekwarhola

Congratulations on your enragement. When's the big day?

Franz Von Peppercorn

na1 wrote: »

Where did I say that rape is normal in India?
On the other hand there is no "normal" behavior for every single society.
In some Papua New Guinea tribes it is normal to buy a wife for a pig. And feminism is considered retarded.

Look I read your post again. It implies what it implied.

anewme

garbo speaks wrote: »

...and here we have nutjob feminazis saying we have a rape culture ...

Shame on you.

Using the horrific suffering and death of an innocent child in India to take a side swipe at irish women.

The situations are not linked and NEITHER is ok.

reading about this made me angry that this could happen in our time, today in 2018, but most if all it made me sad.

So very fcking sad.

The Old Guy

anewme wrote: »

Shame on you.

Using the horrific suffering and death of an innocent child in India to take a side swipe at irish women.

The situations are not linked and NEITHER is ok.

reading about this made me angry that this could happen in our time, today in 2018, but most if all it made me sad.

So very fcking sad.

In fairness to him I don't expect to hear much from Irish feminists about this. The fake wage gap is probably more important.

Also it might be 2018 in Europe but in India it's about 500BC

Buford T. Justice XIX

the dark phantom wrote: »

Sub continent sub human

Mod Note: the dark phantom, don't post in this thread again.

Buford T. Justice.

garbo speaks

anewme wrote: »

The situations are not linked and NEITHER is ok.

There is no comparison between the two. One is the vicious and violent rape and murder of an innocent child, and the other is some middle-class feminazi simpletons in the west getting annoyed on Twitter over senseless nonsense.

garbo speaks

The Old Guy wrote: »

In fairness to him I don't expect to hear much from Irish feminists about this. The fake wage gap is probably more important.

Also it might be 2018 in Europe but in India it's about 500BC

That's because the perpetrators have brown skin. The feminazis only go after white, straight, western men.

na1

reading about this made me angry that this could happen in our time, today in 2018, but most if all it made me sad.

Have you read about [font=Georgia, Times, serif]Edward Heath, the former UK [/font][font=Georgia, Times, serif]Prime Minister?[/font]
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Graces7

Summer wind wrote: »

Anyone that rapes an 8 month old baby or child should be castrated and strung up by their balls.

Within living memory happened many times here . In the Industrial schools

jimgoose

na1 wrote: »

Indians could say the same about Ireland. Because  this county doesn't meet their expectation of the "normal" society

Rajeev Chandrasekhar said pretty much the same about Ireland in 2012.

nacho libre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hC0Ng_ajpY

I've met Indians here who bascially see women as disposable. One guy without a hint of shame said it was ok to hit his wife if she did not obey him.

So if they are thinking that way, what hope is there for less educated Indian men living in in rural India.

tupenny

pleas advice wrote: »

Cowboys, Ted

Really? Ffs . Hilarious..

anewme

garbo speaks wrote: »

That's because the perpetrators have brown skin. The feminazis only go after white, straight, western men.

garbo speaks wrote: »

There is no comparison between the two. One is the vicious and violent rape and murder of an innocent child, and the other is some middle-class feminazi simpletons in the west getting annoyed on Twitter over senseless nonsense.

The initial post has nothing to do with “femanazi”

What a complete load of bollicks.

Am a middle class woman who can confirm there is a gender pay gap(certainly in my industry)

That does not mean I cannot emphatise or express concernsthat children are raped and murdered in India.

I fail to see where one is mutually dependent on the other.

As for industrial schools in Ireland , they are shut now and we all need to move on for our own sakes.

anewme

Graces7 wrote: »

Within living memory happened many times here . In the Industrial schools

The industrial schools are closed.

They have impacted many peoples lives but are thankfully in the past.

Zebra3

nacho libre wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hC0Ng_ajpY

I've met Indians here who bascially see women as disposable. One guy without a hint of shame said it was ok to hit his wife if she did not obey him.

So if they are thinking that way, what hope is there for less educated Indian men living in in rural India.

Yeah, because someone who is less educated is automatically gonna be more into domestic violence. :rolleyes:

Shenshen

nacho libre wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hC0Ng_ajpY

I've met Indians here who bascially see women as disposable. One guy without a hint of shame said it was ok to hit his wife if she did not obey him.

So if they are thinking that way, what hope is there for less educated Indian men living in in rural India.

The same hope there was for men throughout Europe some 50 years ago, when hitting your wife suddenly became a thing that was frowned upon.

Cultures change, and so do attitudes. Constantly. And everywhere. The fact that these cases are not only reported here, but in India as well, and that they have thousands of people in India taking to the streets and demanding change is a good indicator of that, I would say.

nacho libre

Zebra3 wrote: »

Yeah, because someone who is less educated is automatically gonna be more into domestic violence. :rolleyes:

I did not suggest that all domestic abusers are likely to be less educated, rather that primitive views of women in India tend to be more readily accepted in poorer areas, where there is a lack of education.
With this in mind, where are the majority of these rapes taking place in India? Is it in big cities? No it's not. It's mostly in rural areas, where backward traditions and the perception of women as sex objects for men is more prevalent and widely accepted. Maybe the fact people are protesting in large number will lead to a change in culture. I am not sure, though.

jaxxx

I couldn't even finish reading that. 2018 and there are still so many places worldwide that view women and children as not even second class citizens, but almost like property? It's.... I don't even think there is a word to describe how disgusting it is. Why does the world look on and not step in and try bring an end to this? Not that it can be done easily, jesus it would take years and years but.... I don't even know. When I say the world, I mean whole governments, the United Nations, etc. What can actually be done?

Graces7

jaxxx wrote: »

I couldn't even finish reading that. 2018 and there are still so many places worldwide that view women and children as not even second class citizens, but almost like property? It's.... I don't even think there is a word to describe how disgusting it is. Why does the world look on and not step in and try bring an end to this? Not that it can be done easily, jesus it would take years and years but.... I don't even know. When I say the world, I mean whole governments, the United Nations, etc. What can actually be done?

Set your own place right first. We have here a terrible track record still being exposed to the world ..

Atoms for Peace

They've just passed a law over there making the abuse of children under twelve a capitol offence.

screamer

Seriously are you that surprised? In a country with its caste system. In a country with one billion people. Life is cheap and their social systems mean that the life of some is cheaper than others. As for the particular case it is disgusting and there's no punishment harsh enough for the animals who did that to the poor child.
They won't change a thing over there. There have been a number of high profile rape murder cases and nothing changes. I have female friends who travelled there and the stories they tell are hair raising and not in a good way.

Neyite

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

They've just passed a law over there making the abuse of children under twelve a capitol offence.

Lets hope there's no loophole for them to legitimise the abuse of an under 12 by marriage in order to sidestep punishment.

I'd be worried that having the death penalty for such a crime puts the victim at more risk - that she would be killed in order to cover up the crime and leave no witnesses. Plus people might be loath to report a male relative for abuse if he's the wage earner/ breadwinner and in doing so, plunges the family into extreme poverty if he's put to death.

But maybe it will prompt societal and cultural shifts in thinking. I hope so.

screamer

Neyite wrote: »

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

They've just passed a law over there making the abuse of children under twelve a capitol offence.

Lets hope there's no loophole for them to legitimise the abuse of an under 12 by marriage in order to sidestep punishment.

I'd be worried that having the death penalty for such a crime puts the victim at more risk - that she would be killed in order to cover up the crime and leave no witnesses. Plus people might be loath to report a male relative for abuse if he's the wage earner/ breadwinner and in doing so, plunges the family into extreme poverty if he's put to death.

But maybe it will prompt societal and cultural shifts in thinking. I hope so.

And of course...they have to be convicted first.... there'll still be many loop holes.

Galwayguy35

jimgoose wrote: »

Rajeev Chandrasekhar said pretty much the same about Ireland in 2012.

Did he now.

A woman was gang raped, had steel bars put inside her and later died on a moving bus in his country in 2012 so he's the last person to have an opinion on what's normal.

Galwayguy35

Graces7 wrote: »

Set your own place right first. We have here a terrible track record still being exposed to the world ..

We are all aware of what happened here in Ireland, it was wrong but we can't change the past and this country is a much better place in 2018 than parts of India is.

As someone who came here to live all you seem to do is criticize the place.