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garbo speaks · 19-04-2018 09:31AM

anewme wrote: »

The situations are not linked and NEITHER is ok.

There is no comparison between the two. One is the vicious and violent rape and murder of an innocent child, and the other is some middle-class feminazi simpletons in the west getting annoyed on Twitter over senseless nonsense.

garbo speaks · 19-04-2018 09:32AM

The Old Guy wrote: »

In fairness to him I don't expect to hear much from Irish feminists about this. The fake wage gap is probably more important.

Also it might be 2018 in Europe but in India it's about 500BC

That's because the perpetrators have brown skin. The feminazis only go after white, straight, western men.

na1 · 19-04-2018 12:12PM

reading about this made me angry that this could happen in our time, today in 2018, but most if all it made me sad.

Have you read about [font=Georgia, Times, serif]Edward Heath, the former UK [/font][font=Georgia, Times, serif]Prime Minister?[/font]
[font=Georgia, Times, serif]It was happening in 1970-es some 40 years ago.[/font]

Graces7 · 19-04-2018 02:45PM

Summer wind wrote: »

Anyone that rapes an 8 month old baby or child should be castrated and strung up by their balls.

Within living memory happened many times here . In the Industrial schools

jimgoose · 19-04-2018 03:24PM

na1 wrote: »

Indians could say the same about Ireland. Because this county doesn't meet their expectation of the "normal" society

Rajeev Chandrasekhar said pretty much the same about Ireland in 2012.

nacho libre · 19-04-2018 08:34PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hC0Ng_ajpY

I've met Indians here who bascially see women as disposable. One guy without a hint of shame said it was ok to hit his wife if she did not obey him.

So if they are thinking that way, what hope is there for less educated Indian men living in in rural India.

tupenny · 19-04-2018 08:54PM

pleas advice wrote: »

Cowboys, Ted

Really? Ffs . Hilarious..

anewme · 20-04-2018 12:37AM

garbo speaks wrote: »

That's because the perpetrators have brown skin. The feminazis only go after white, straight, western men.

garbo speaks wrote: »

There is no comparison between the two. One is the vicious and violent rape and murder of an innocent child, and the other is some middle-class feminazi simpletons in the west getting annoyed on Twitter over senseless nonsense.

The initial post has nothing to do with “femanazi”

What a complete load of bollicks.

Am a middle class woman who can confirm there is a gender pay gap(certainly in my industry)

That does not mean I cannot emphatise or express concernsthat children are raped and murdered in India.

I fail to see where one is mutually dependent on the other.

As for industrial schools in Ireland , they are shut now and we all need to move on for our own sakes.

anewme · 20-04-2018 12:41AM

Graces7 wrote: »

Within living memory happened many times here . In the Industrial schools

The industrial schools are closed.

They have impacted many peoples lives but are thankfully in the past.

Zebra3 · 20-04-2018 04:18AM

nacho libre wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hC0Ng_ajpY

I've met Indians here who bascially see women as disposable. One guy without a hint of shame said it was ok to hit his wife if she did not obey him.

So if they are thinking that way, what hope is there for less educated Indian men living in in rural India.

Yeah, because someone who is less educated is automatically gonna be more into domestic violence. :rolleyes:

Shenshen · 20-04-2018 08:46AM

nacho libre wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hC0Ng_ajpY

I've met Indians here who bascially see women as disposable. One guy without a hint of shame said it was ok to hit his wife if she did not obey him.

So if they are thinking that way, what hope is there for less educated Indian men living in in rural India.

The same hope there was for men throughout Europe some 50 years ago, when hitting your wife suddenly became a thing that was frowned upon.

Cultures change, and so do attitudes. Constantly. And everywhere. The fact that these cases are not only reported here, but in India as well, and that they have thousands of people in India taking to the streets and demanding change is a good indicator of that, I would say.

nacho libre · 22-04-2018 01:22AM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Yeah, because someone who is less educated is automatically gonna be more into domestic violence. :rolleyes:

I did not suggest that all domestic abusers are likely to be less educated, rather that primitive views of women in India tend to be more readily accepted in poorer areas, where there is a lack of education.
With this in mind, where are the majority of these rapes taking place in India? Is it in big cities? No it's not. It's mostly in rural areas, where backward traditions and the perception of women as sex objects for men is more prevalent and widely accepted. Maybe the fact people are protesting in large number will lead to a change in culture. I am not sure, though.

jaxxx · 22-04-2018 01:36AM

I couldn't even finish reading that. 2018 and there are still so many places worldwide that view women and children as not even second class citizens, but almost like property? It's.... I don't even think there is a word to describe how disgusting it is. Why does the world look on and not step in and try bring an end to this? Not that it can be done easily, jesus it would take years and years but.... I don't even know. When I say the world, I mean whole governments, the United Nations, etc. What can actually be done?

Graces7 · 22-04-2018 05:35AM

jaxxx wrote: »

I couldn't even finish reading that. 2018 and there are still so many places worldwide that view women and children as not even second class citizens, but almost like property? It's.... I don't even think there is a word to describe how disgusting it is. Why does the world look on and not step in and try bring an end to this? Not that it can be done easily, jesus it would take years and years but.... I don't even know. When I say the world, I mean whole governments, the United Nations, etc. What can actually be done?

Set your own place right first. We have here a terrible track record still being exposed to the world ..

Atoms for Peace · 22-04-2018 07:54AM

They've just passed a law over there making the abuse of children under twelve a capitol offence.

screamer · 22-04-2018 08:02AM

Seriously are you that surprised? In a country with its caste system. In a country with one billion people. Life is cheap and their social systems mean that the life of some is cheaper than others. As for the particular case it is disgusting and there's no punishment harsh enough for the animals who did that to the poor child.
They won't change a thing over there. There have been a number of high profile rape murder cases and nothing changes. I have female friends who travelled there and the stories they tell are hair raising and not in a good way.

Neyite · 22-04-2018 08:05AM

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

They've just passed a law over there making the abuse of children under twelve a capitol offence.

Lets hope there's no loophole for them to legitimise the abuse of an under 12 by marriage in order to sidestep punishment.

I'd be worried that having the death penalty for such a crime puts the victim at more risk - that she would be killed in order to cover up the crime and leave no witnesses. Plus people might be loath to report a male relative for abuse if he's the wage earner/ breadwinner and in doing so, plunges the family into extreme poverty if he's put to death.

But maybe it will prompt societal and cultural shifts in thinking. I hope so.

screamer · 22-04-2018 08:07AM

Neyite wrote: »

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

They've just passed a law over there making the abuse of children under twelve a capitol offence.

Lets hope there's no loophole for them to legitimise the abuse of an under 12 by marriage in order to sidestep punishment.

I'd be worried that having the death penalty for such a crime puts the victim at more risk - that she would be killed in order to cover up the crime and leave no witnesses. Plus people might be loath to report a male relative for abuse if he's the wage earner/ breadwinner and in doing so, plunges the family into extreme poverty if he's put to death.

But maybe it will prompt societal and cultural shifts in thinking. I hope so.

And of course...they have to be convicted first.... there'll still be many loop holes.

Galwayguy35 · 22-04-2018 08:51AM

jimgoose wrote: »

Rajeev Chandrasekhar said pretty much the same about Ireland in 2012.

Did he now.

A woman was gang raped, had steel bars put inside her and later died on a moving bus in his country in 2012 so he's the last person to have an opinion on what's normal.

Galwayguy35 · 22-04-2018 08:57AM

Graces7 wrote: »

Set your own place right first. We have here a terrible track record still being exposed to the world ..

We are all aware of what happened here in Ireland, it was wrong but we can't change the past and this country is a much better place in 2018 than parts of India is.

As someone who came here to live all you seem to do is criticize the place.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 22-04-2018 09:23AM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

We are all aware of what happened here in Ireland, it was wrong but we can't change the past and this country is a much better place in 2018 than parts of India is.

As someone who came here to live all you seem to do is criticize the place.

Indeed. India has not made any attempt to correct it's ills. Charities may as well be throwing money in the Ganges for all the good they do. It's a rich country yet it's people suffer daily and the priorities of it's government are deplorable. At least in Ireland we give aid to our citizens, the taxpayer through the government pays support and pensions, and we provide a considerable amount of social housing. To compare Ireland to India is insulting and bazaar.

dr.fuzzenstein · 22-04-2018 09:50AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

From that article:

Again and again across the world it always starts with one group successfully dehumanising members of another group. Dehumanisation didn't start and end with the Nazis. The Irish shouldn't need to be reminded of that.

What group is being dehumanised in our society today, in 2018, and how is that making it easier to mistreat them? Beware anybody who wants to dehumanise any group. That's always where the justifications for murder and savagery begin.

Muslims. And the many, many threads on "what those evil mussies did" and the many sneering posts about "religion of peace".
And of course the smug justifications of "Muslim is not a race, I am not a racist".
I can't even write what comes to mind, but it rhymes with "clucking tanker".

Appledreams15 · 22-04-2018 09:56AM

Presley Harsh Muzzle wrote: »

cfuserkildare wrote: »

Am Well aware of the Caste System,
But I still do not understand why we are still dealing with such a perverse society, when we should just cut them off,
No more Outsourcing to them, No more dealing with tehm until they stop this and drag their society back into the 21st century.

Having seen how they operate, first hand, I refuse to support any charity in India. The Government there needs to get its act together. A country with nuclear capabilities, a space programme and many of the richest people in the world yet we send people and money to work with their poor. The international community has to stand up to them and bring pressure to have them mend their ways. And I don't accept that it's their 'culture'.

what about Ireland where rape victims were imprisoned all their lives.
I just watched a documentary where a woman said as a young girl a priest ejaculated on her clothes and she did not know what it was.

We have had the same levels of depravity here.

Appledreams15 · 22-04-2018 09:58AM

Hector Bellend wrote: »

To state that women are second class citizens here is a sickening understatement.

How do you change that?

The United Nations has stated that Ireland abuses the human rights of women. That's Ireland, our country has been flagged for abuse. Why don't we start with our own country.

Appledreams15 · 22-04-2018 09:59AM

cfuserkildare wrote: »

kneemos wrote: »

It's like he woke up one day and discovered India.

You should read some more on the place,in particular the caste system.

Am Well aware of the Caste System,
But I still do not understand why we are still dealing with such a perverse society, when we should just cut them off,
No more Outsourcing to them, No more dealing with tehm until they stop this and drag their society back into the 21st century.

what about Ireland where priests ejaculated on young children, the age of 5?

Appledreams15 · 22-04-2018 10:01AM

garbo speaks wrote: »

racso1975 wrote: »

Well so long as we are a rung above them on the ladder that's ok!!! Just cause you are better then the worst does not mean until are good

There is no comparison between the way women are treated in Ireland, and the way women are treated in India. We are far more above them than "a rung" as you suggest.

What about girls who were raped being locked up all their lives in the laundries. That was Ireland.
Stories of girls in the laundries being raped by priests, that was Ireland.

How exactly is Ireland better?

Fann Linn · 22-04-2018 10:05AM

Appledreams15 wrote: »

What about girls who were raped being locked up all their lives in the laundries. That was Ireland.
Stories of girls in the laundries being raped by priests, that was Ireland.

How exactly is Ireland better?

'WAS' being the appropriate word in everyone of your posts.

Appledreams15 · 22-04-2018 10:05AM

jaxxx wrote: »

I couldn't even finish reading that. 2018 and there are still so many places worldwide that view women and children as not even second class citizens, but almost like property? It's.... I don't even think there is a word to describe how disgusting it is. Why does the world look on and not step in and try bring an end to this? Not that it can be done easily, jesus it would take years and years but.... I don't even know. When I say the world, I mean whole governments, the United Nations, etc. What can actually be done?

you do see that Ireland is known worldwide for its human rights abuses of women? I'm stunned that some are blind to this.

Appledreams15 · 22-04-2018 10:05AM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Appledreams15 wrote: »

What about girls who were raped being locked up all their lives in the laundries. That was Ireland.
Stories of girls in the laundries being raped by priests, that was Ireland.

How exactly is Ireland better?

'WAS' being the appropriate word in everyone of your posts.

No. The United nations condemning human rights abuses of women in Ireland.

Current.

dr.fuzzenstein · 22-04-2018 10:06AM

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