Cork developments

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122343386#Comment_122343386

It looks light and shoddy like garden centre standard light planking.

It's patently obvious people would stand on them so something more solid should have been installed.

hans aus dtschl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353506#Comment_122353506

I think that's exactly what it is, standard garden centre decking.

However, a slight disagreement with you: the dopes on St Patrick's day were well out of order. Adults behaving like children (worse, really). On the day, I didn't understand at first why every bus shelter was fenced off, but when I saw this happen I understood why. They stayed on there even after they broke it. We're talking about middle aged adults desperate to see the parade. Pushing forward to the barriers, with small children behind them unable to see. Honestly it was pathetic. I am more than happy to criticize our own local bad behaviour, but this was "well-to-do" tourists acting the gowl. Over by Merchant's quay there was no crowd then.

TLDR: my opinion is that nothing's going to stop a group of 15-20 grown adults behaving like chimps (it must have been more than a tonne put onto it), so yes it needs to be repaired now and council needs to get the finger out but it just needs to be fenced off when the next batch of simpleton adults arrives to see the children's show.

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353664#Comment_122353664

Not defending their behaviour, at all, but street furniture should be able to cope with people standing on it.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353664#Comment_122353664

The behaviour that offended you is irrelevant, they should have been of sturdier construction. Penny pinching by council.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353664#Comment_122353664

You build for expected behaviour. That's reasonable expectation

hans aus dtschl

I disagree with you all, no wooden furniture is going to withstand 15-20 adults jumping on it, they just need to fence it off for the parade is all, same as they do with the bus shelters. I fully accept it should have been fixed well before now and that the council may well be of a penny pinching mindset, I just disagree that it should have withstood what I saw breaking it is all.

I know it might seem like I'm clutching at pearls but I honestly don't care what people did on the day, I just thought it was embarrassing behaviour. At the time I didn't feel for a second like the wooden construction was at fault. I went from thinking the council was heavy-handed in fencing off the bus shelters to thinking they needed to fence off more things!

But zero argument they should have long since fixed it by now.

whisky_galore

It's in a city, visited by and populated with people who do stupid things, who drink and take drugs.

This should hardly come as any great surprise.

If one of them fell through it, they wouldn't be slow to claim real or imagined damages over it. The onus is on the council to make such things sturdy enough.

hans aus dtschl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122355322#Comment_122355322

Ah yeah but it's no different than a car crashing into it IMO, I feel like the fault here is in not fixing it, rather than not making it withstand the abuse. Anyway we only barely disagree, and we agree on the general topic: it's a shame the upkeep of the city centre isn't better.

hans aus dtschl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122355322#Comment_122355322

You edited your comment, and I think I understand why we disagree now. It's the tree roots and earth that are underneath it. You actually can't fall through it any more than those people did. That's why it's wooden planking suspended over the gap, you can't support it directly in the centre. They could use perforated metal or brace it with steel or something like that but that would make it harder to modify when the tree gets wider. The planking there is lying on the earth and root of the tree. They could maybe just top up the soil and rest the planking on that or something.

scrotist

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122320972#Comment_122320972

Any more info on these apartments?

Pauliedragon

This is behind a paywall but you get the gist. interesting they went against the inspector.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-41438386.html

Iscreamkone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122393554#Comment_122393554

It was either use the small spaces available or continue as a vacant building. Common sense prevailed I think.

rebs23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122393587#Comment_122393587

Why did the LA refuse the initial application?

Iscreamkone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122395713#Comment_122395713

Sorry - I don’t know

what the hell!

Wasn’t it to do with fire escapes? No way of getting out if there is a fire. I think that’s the reason why there aren’t people living above businesses on Patrick’s St.

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122395713#Comment_122395713

"apartments fell below the minimum floor space and storage standards."

rebs23

the obvious question then is why did ABP grant permission? Obviously an overly cautious interpretation of guidelines?

Grey123

What's the story with the abandoned apartment (?) building accross from Ballinglanna in Glanmire? Not sure how long it's been like that but a real eyesore. Looks like there is a new development happening nearby closer to the bridge now.

Jcb21

It was meant to be a nursing home and creche.

The owners got into financial difficulties and the building has been left like that for about two years.

The scaffolding was taken down earlier this year and some of the politicians canvassing around the time of the elections said someone else has taken over the project and it was going out for tender again.

marno21

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-41454214.html?utm_source=push&utm_medium=mobile&utm_campaign=article

John Cleary and the City Council planning 217 cost rental apartments on the old Sextant/Carey Tools site.

the beer revolu

CCC are looking for feedback on Shandon

https://www.corkcity.ie/en/council-services/services/planning/shandon-integrated-urban-strategy/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3OYfc-Be_h9UhXqg1i_HBALDu5U-GAw_G-5bT8w41YMWOQF4ZRfOfCln8_aem_pp-p_g7t83dk0r8H5z8Zew

Timing belt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122493274#Comment_122493274

will be interesting to see what the rent will be for these cost rentals….: even if you assumed market rents haven’t increased since they calculated 3k a month a few years ago…. That would mean cost rental would be a min of 2,250 a month

Apogee

There is a write up today in Examiner on the completed Bottleworks student accommodation on Carrigrohane Rd, but it also contains details on the 3 projects on Victoria Cross/Wilton Rd. Apparently, they are waiting on planning approval for the Finbarr Galvin site before they potentially start work in Q2 2025.

Further significant PBSA development is due to get underway in Q2 of next year, also in Victoria Cross, where Bellmount Developments Ltd hope to get on site to start work on schemes that will add almost another 600 student beds to the system. 

Seamus Kelleher, who heads up Bellmount, said work will start as soon as they get planning permission for one remaining scheme (there are three neighbouring schemes of which two have the go-ahead).

“We are waiting for planning to come through on the Finbar Galvin site, which is the middle site,” he said.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/property/commercial/arid-41456356.html

JP Liz V1

What's going on by Wilton CUH traffic lights, mayhem with lane changes and backed up traffic, temporary lights

Chris_5339762

They're sorting out that junction, and by "sorting it out" I mean removing one traffic lane for the benefit of patients who are waiting in the middle to cross. To be fair that should have probably been sorted out over a decade ago.

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517657#Comment_122517657

Yes. The pedestrian access to the hospital is appalling!

hans aus dtschl

It's a very busy stretch of road too, you'd think they'd do something better with that whole junction.

ofcork

Is there any work going on in the old Debenhams.

blindsider

Work has started on the Lee Garage re-development on Model Farm Road.

I have no other details….

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/plan-add-cafe-seating-area-21697579

JP Liz V1

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-41468623

Plans to redevelop a former pub to create apartments and a new restaurant have failed to get the green light from Cork City Council.

In July applicant Packo Maguire submitted proposals for the redevelopment of the former Port Bar at 2 Victoria Rd.

The application proposed the demolition of the former pub with residence above, retaining the existing front façade of the building, and the construction of a four-storey building in its place with a restaurant on ground floor level and three two-bed apartments over the first, second and third floors.