Chemical weapon used on civilians in Syria + Airstrikes

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Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Mattis could be next out the door?

Strongly doubt that. For all the negatively over firing people that one would be met with the most backlash. Trump needs to keep the military on his side, he doesn't have many friends left

donegaLroad

mcmoustache wrote: »

Then perhaps we should take sky news off the air because they are always doing that.

I would fully support the idea of taking Sky News off the air. Having grown up watching their biased and slanted reportage of the Troubles in Northern Ireland I have first hand knowledge of how certain events occurred, and it was not the way Sky News reported it.

KyussB

The recent trend of claiming there is secret 'evidence' against Russia is a scary one. Especially now that it has escalated to such a serious scale.

We can't allow wars to be based on stuff like this - it's fucking crazy. This isn't a war that will stay localized to the Middle East if it kicks off.

This is a pretty good time for Ireland to reaffirm and resecure its neutrality tbh. Did us well the last time mad fuckers decided to start a potentially globally cascading war...(except this time there's nuclear weapons to worry about...)

There is a reason that 'Wars of Aggression' are considered one of the worst evils - and why we should have locked away those responsible for Iraq, for life - or given them the Nuremberg treatment.

It's stuff like that which has directly led us to where we are today. All of this shit in the Middle East today goes back to that.

Cheerful Spring

2 Scoops wrote: »

Strongly doubt that. For all the negatively over firing people that one would be met with the most backlash. Trump needs to keep the military on his side, he doesn't have many friends left

He fires everyone who disagrees with him nobody is saved. Can he just hire another general to do the job? I don't know if he will fire Mattis, but this is Trump how many people in cabinet positions has he fired now I have lost count.

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Cheerful Spring wrote: »

He fires everyone who disagrees with him nobody is saved. Can he just hire another general to do the job? I don't know if he will fire Mattis, but this is Trump how many people in cabinet positions has he fired now I have lost count.

It's probably approaching double digits at this stage

mcmoustache

donegaLroad wrote: »

I would fully support the idea of taking Sky News off the air. Having grown up watching their biased and slanted reportage of the Troubles in Northern Ireland I have first hand knowledge of how certain events occurred, and it was not the way Sky News reported it.

Yep.
They are among the worst here.

Cheerful Spring

What I thinking is worrying here is Trump willingness to inflict damage on the Russians and Iranians. Trump not thinking of the consequences for world peace.

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Cheerful Spring wrote: »

What I thinking is worrying here is Trump willingness to inflict damage on the Russians and Iranians. Trump not thinking of the consequences for world peace.

He's being told what to say, that's how the game is played.

Aidric

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

It's hard to keep up with the Kremlin line. First there was no attack whatsoever, then there was an actual chemical attack but it was staged by unknown actors, then it was there was no chemical attack, but it was staged by unknown actors to make it seem as if there was one, then there was a chemical attack again and a State intelligence agency was involved and now the latest line is that there was no chemical attack, but Britain staged an attack to make it seem like there was one. It's all simple and straight forward according to Russia, right? :rolleyes:

We'll see what the Kremlin line is tomorrow.

Why are you surprised? That has been Kremlin policy for quite some time now. Disseminate as many angles as possible to sow doubt in the general populace.

The US and UK are equally adept at this but strangely don't attract the same attention.

Cheerful Spring

2 Scoops wrote: »

He's being told what to say, that's how the game is played.

Bolton probably numbers one Warhawk in America now giving advice to Trump not good.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

I already have. I told you what I believe happened.

No you haven't you gave your opinion I asked can you back it up .

Yes or no

ArchXStanton

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

WASHINGTON—President Donald Trump is prodding his military advisers to agree to a more sweeping retaliatory strike in Syria than they consider prudent and is unhappy with the options they have presented to him, White House and other administration officials said.

In meetings with Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis, Mr. Trump has been pushing for an attack that not only would punish the Syrian regime but also exact a price from two of its international patrons, Russia and Iran, a White House official said.

“He wants Mattis to push the limits a little bit more,” the official said.

Mr. Mattis and other military advisers have resisted, worried that the administration lacks a broader strategy in Syria and that military strikes could trigger a dangerous clash with Russia and Iran, U.S. officials said.

Over the past two days, the Pentagon has had two opportunities to launch attacks against Syria in reprisal for a suspected chemical weapons attack, but Mr. Mattis halted them, according to U.S. and defense officials.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-seeks-large-strike-in-syria-mattis-urges-caution-1523651589?mod=e2tw

Mattis could be next out the door? We spoke about this before the only person left to stop Trump and Bolton and Pompeo.

That's the thing the US cheerleaders here don't seem to understand with all their talk of aircraft carriers,an attack on Syria now would be like kicking a hornet's nest with Iran getting involved aswell,then the US and its axis of evil partners really will have a fight on their hands

JenovaProject

Gatling wrote: »

No you haven't you gave your opinion I asked can you back it up .

Yes or no

Give over,youve a lot of backing up to do yourself before you start demanding answers from anyone else

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

I still waiting for links from you for the last month and some other people on here

Thread is only 6 days old .

Another lie I've no time for other people I know who and what exactly they are

So are the OPCW capable of carrying out an independent investigation into chemical weapons attacks .
You claimed earlier they are pressured to support Novichok was used in the UK recently

Gatling

JenovaProject wrote: »

Give

The other poster can answer the question it's a really simple ..yes or no

JenovaProject

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

I still waiting for links from you for the last month and some other people on here same, waiting.

Gatling wrote: »

Thread is only 6 days old .

Its from the previous thread thats been moved....but im sure you know that already:)

JenovaProject

Gatling wrote: »

The other poster can answer the question it's a really simple ..yes or no

Back up your own spoof with links before demanding answers from others

Gatling

JenovaProject wrote: »

Its from the previous thread thats been moved

It's still there. Novichok confirmed by the OPCW

Again welcome to the latest chemical weapons attack in Syria thread

JenovaProject

Gatling wrote: »

It's still there.

And youve still provided no link

Gatling

JenovaProject wrote: »

And youve still provided no link

Again the other poster can answer his questions

JenovaProject

Gatling wrote: »

Novichok confirmed by the OPCW

No....try again...youve told so many lies your losing track

JenovaProject

Gatling wrote: »

Again the other poster can answer his questions

He can...to somebody with a bit of credibility

smurgen

Gatling wrote: »

Gringo180 wrote: »

Yes free to speak openly. Thats why Julian Assange is a prisoner in the Venezuela.

Rape and sexual assault is not free speech

Snowden is a common garden thief who had delusions of being James bond 007 and all he ended up with was life stuck in Moscow

Trump fancies his own daughter,talks of sexually assualting women,cheated on his wife with pornstars and insulted dead american war heros and their families.

CZ 453

ArchXStanton wrote: »

That's the thing the US cheerleaders here don't seem to understand with all their talk of aircraft carriers,an attack on Syria now would be like kicking a hornet's nest with Iran getting involved aswell,then the US and its axis of evil partners really will have a fight on their hands

That's right ya. Iran's red line will be the yanks bombing Syria. Not them backing Iraq in the 80's when they were at war with Iran. Not when the Yanks invaded Iraq twice since then. Not when they invaded Afghanistan. Not when the set up the largest bases in the region to the south of Iran. It'll be now when they Tomahawk Syria.

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

It's still there. Novichok confirmed by the OPCW

Again welcome to the latest chemical weapons attack in Syria thread

Actually, your wrong OPCW never said Novichok, find that quote I talk with you then!

Gatling

smurgen wrote: »

Trump fancies his own daughter,,cheated on his wife with pornstars and insulted dead american war heros and their families.

It's all apparently quite common in America .
Can't see many men turning down porn stars can you

CZ 453

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Actually, your wrong OPCW never said Novichok, find that quote I talk with you then!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/12/novichok-used-in-spy-poisoning-chemical-weapons-watchdog-confirms-salisbury

Now go back to bed.

JenovaProject

Gatling wrote: »

Can't see many men turning down porn stars can you

Speak for yourself:D

JenovaProject

CZ 453 wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/12/novichok-used-in-spy-poisoning-chemical-weapons-watchdog-confirms-salisbury

Now go back to bed.

from your link....

The executive summary released by the OPCW does not mention novichok by name

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Actually, your wrong OPCW never said Novichok, find that quote I talk with you then!

They did they confirmed exactly what Porton down confirmed last week it's all there in black and white .

You already claimed that they were pressureised to agreeing with the British ,
Which means that they cannot be possibly be trusted to carry out an independent investigation if they are easily swayed by the British government