Active shooter at Youtube headquarters

Spanish Eyes · 03-04-2018 10:52pm

Anyway it will all be forgotten by tomorrow night.

But the gun laws in America will live on forever. What draw has the NRA? Do most Americans really believe in this sh!t about the right to bear arms in case they need to oust the Government? WTF.

Why is that? Must be a preppers duty. Sure.

America is a strange place for this kind of thing.

Gwynplaine · 03-04-2018 10:52pm

I remember when I used to be shocked when these things happened. Now it happens every few weeks and has just become part of the norm.
"Thoughts and prayers" don't do anything. Do something about it

Kermit.de.frog · 03-04-2018 10:53pm

Don't even know why we bother with these threads anymore.

We all know the story. Thoughts and prayers offered, forgotten following day, next incident next week.

Nothing will change.

Omackeral · 03-04-2018 10:54pm

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Reasonable enough.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/981287536520847360

Phew, for a minute I thought he forgot the patented Thoughts and Prayers TM

Spanish Eyes · 03-04-2018 10:54pm

Omackeral wrote: »

C'mon spit it out, what are you trying to tell us?

Talk to me and tell me what YOU think.

Jeff2 · 03-04-2018 10:54pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Hope you put a filter on your FB profile pic too

Ahh come on.
Sending prayers and good vibes to people that will never see the post must have a positive effect on them.

Spanish Eyes · 03-04-2018 10:55pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Don't even know why we bother with these threads anymore.

We all know the story. Thoughts and prayers offered, forgotten following day, next incident next week.

Nothing will change.

I agree, but you forgot the candles and flowers. Talk is cheap.

Omackeral · 03-04-2018 10:55pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Talk to me and tell me what YOU think.

Well I think it's jumping the gun (:pac:) to call them murderers until such time that the facts are known.

Summer In the City · 03-04-2018 10:56pm

It's a sad state of affairs when such a beautiful country is in the hands of a sick people.

Vincent Vega · 03-04-2018 10:56pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Again the word "shooter" is ridiculous. But what the heck no one cares the next day anyway.

Seen them referred to as 'Female gunman' on another site. :pac:

ironwalk · 03-04-2018 10:57pm

Gwynplaine wrote: »

I remember when I used to be shocked when these things happened. Now it happens every few weeks and has just become part of the norm.
"Thoughts and prayers" don't do anything. Do something about it

Agree.
Saw the headline on the Irish Times website, and, God forgive me, my reaction was... <shrug>.
If it happened here, I'd be in shock. Twitter would melt-down with people checking if they knew anyone who'd been hurt.
And the country would be on the streets to change the laws to prevent it happening again (like the UK after Dunblane).

I despair.

Purple Mountain · 03-04-2018 10:58pm

When people say 'thoughts and prayers' do they actually go and say a prayer?

Tipsy McSwagger · 03-04-2018 11:01pm

Purple Mountain wrote: »

When people say 'thoughts and prayers' do they actually go and say a prayer?

No they just continue to scroll down Facebook

screamer · 03-04-2018 11:01pm

Purple Mountain wrote: »

When people say 'thoughts and prayers' do they actually go and say a prayer?

Meh... Probably some do... But generally I'd imagine they think about praying......
To me though it's more like the annoying "sorry for your troubles" favoured at Irish funerals.

Omackeral · 03-04-2018 11:03pm

Purple Mountain wrote: »

When people say 'thoughts and prayers' do they actually go and say a prayer?

Spanish Eyes · 03-04-2018 11:05pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Well I think it's jumping the gun (:pac:) to call them murderers until such time that the facts are known.

Well what would you call it?

Don't ask me!

Omackeral · 03-04-2018 11:08pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Well what would you call it?

Probably a shooter or something.

Spanish Eyes · 03-04-2018 11:09pm

Blame the preppers and those who worry about the Government taking over. Yes that is the reason for guns in America. The president and the Congress might just take over your life.

So you can get guns of any calibre to protect yourself.

Honestly they are nuts. Sorry there are no other words left.

Spanish Eyes · 03-04-2018 11:09pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Probably a shooter or something.

LOL :pac:

Noveight · 03-04-2018 11:12pm

Could do with a "AH U.S.A. Shooting Megathread" to contain all the thoughts and prayers.

Omackeral · 03-04-2018 11:14pm

Noveight wrote: »

Could do with a "AH U.S.A. Shooting Megathread" to contain all the thoughts and prayers.

Sounds like you're pleading with them to stop their shenanigans. Lash up a few of these, be grand.

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eeguy · 03-04-2018 11:19pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Blame the preppers and those who worry about the Government taking over. Yes that is the reason for guns in America. The president and the Congress might just take over your life.

So you can get guns of any calibre to protect yourself.

Honestly they are nuts. Sorry there are no other words left.

It's a culture. You don't understand it cause you don't live it.You didn't grow up in it.
To even suggest taking guns away is akin to suggesting taking alcohol away from us.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 03-04-2018 11:20pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Blame the preppers and those who worry about the Government taking over. Yes that is the reason for guns in America. The president and the Congress might just take over your life.

So you can get guns of any calibre to protect yourself.

Honestly they are nuts. Sorry there are no other words left.

The government is pretty loaded though. All American police forces are basically para military operations.

The best option is an unarmed police force and citizenry.

Noveight · 03-04-2018 11:25pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Sounds like you're pleading with them to stop their shenanigans. Lash up a few of these, be grand.

Last chance lads, cop on now before it ends in tears... :pac:

Spanish Eyes · 03-04-2018 11:29pm

eeguy wrote: »

It's a culture. You don't understand it cause you don't live it.You didn't grow up in it.
To even suggest taking guns away is akin to suggesting taking alcohol away from us.

Ah I know, but it doesn't apply to all Americans does it?

it is a ridiculous culture/attitude for some, but they can drink if they want to aswell, no problem. With the gun in the dashboard in case the Government will take over. So what is their worry I often wonder.

_Dara_ · 03-04-2018 11:30pm

Berserker wrote: »

The shooter is female according to some reports.

fleet_admiral wrote: »

No prosecution so

Well, she’s dead but why wouldn’t she have been prosecuted?

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Reasonable enough.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/981287536520847360

Nice trolling there, POTUS, with the ‘thoughts and prayers’ bit.

Spanish Eyes · 03-04-2018 11:31pm

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

The government is pretty loaded though. All American police forces are basically para military operations.

The best option is an unarmed police force and citizenry.

Many countries police forces are armed. Even in Europe. But the killings on the scale of US do not seem to happen.

BattleCorp · 03-04-2018 11:42pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Looks like they are taking a different approach - get the gunmakers

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-connecticut-shooting/newtown-families-seek-to-hold-gun-maker-accountable-in-connecticut-court-idUSKBN1DE1J9

https://www.refinery29.com/2017/11/180724/sandy-hook-newtown-shooting-gun-control-laws

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/12/nyregion/appeal-offers-hope-for-newtown-families-in-suit-against-gun-companies.html

What chance have they of success? The firearms manufacturers are making legal products that aren't defective. From a legal point of view, what's the problem there?

Would Slazenger be sued if I attacked someone with a tennis racquet?

suicide_circus · 03-04-2018 11:43pm

Feminism in action

Manic Moran · 03-04-2018 11:44pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

What draw has the NRA?

Same that the Democratic and Republican Parties have, for example. Few of the members truly agree with the leadership, but they are in anyway because it is the closest, effective organisation which either achieves at least some of what they want, or perhaps more accurately, is most likely to prevent what they don't want to happen.

If you are a pro-gun chap, sure, you can become a member of an organisation which really does suit your desires, such as the California Rifle and Pistol Association (Obviously, for Californians) or the Pink Pistols (LGBT gun advocacy group) or whatever. But at the national level, they, quite simply, lack effectiveness. The NRA carries some weight in Congress. The National African American Gun Association does not.

So whilst many NRA members wish to God LaPierre and Nugent et al would shut the hell up and be a bit more reasonable, the viewpoint is that they are stuck between two unreasonable positions: That of the NRA leadership, and that of the gun control leadership. The difference being that whatever stupidity comes out of Nugent's mouth, it is not going to harm their interests, because even if it's for irrational reasons, the net effect that they are going for is to deny the anti-gun agenda. So, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and strength in unity.

And, of course, the vast majority of firearms owners are not in the NRA anyway. But we do vote, so it's not as if the politicians don't pay attention to the pro-gun position anyway, if they want to be re-elected.

Active shooter at Youtube headquarters

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