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Munster vs Toulon, ERCC QF, Sat 30th March 3:15pm; Sky Sports Action

  • 30-03-2018 12:04pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    Munster:
    Simon Zebo; Andrew Conway, Sammy Arnold, Rory Scannell, Alex Wootton; Ian Keatley, Conor Murray;
    Dave Kilcoyne, Rhys Marshall, Stephen Archer; Jean Kleyn, Billy Holland; Peter O’Mahony (C), Jack O’Donoghue, CJ Stander.

    Replacements: Niall Scannell, James Cronin, John Ryan, Gerbrandt Grobler, Robin Copeland, James Hart, JJ Hanrahan, Darren Sweetnam.

    Toulon:
    15. Chris Ashton; 14. Josua Tuisova, 13. Mathieu Bastareaud, 12. Ma'a Nonu, 11. Semi Radradra; 10. Francois Trinh-Duc, 9. Eric Escande;
    1. Florian Fresia, 2. Guilhem Guirado, 3. Marcel Van Der Merwe, 4. Juandre Kruger, 5. Dave Attwood, 6. Raphael Lakafia, 7. Facundo Isa, 8. Duane Vermeulen
    16. Anthony Etrillard, 17. Xavier Chiocci, 18. Emerick Setiano, 19. Romain Taofifenua, 20. Anthony Belleau, 21. Malakai Fekitoa, 22. Alby Mathewson, 23. Samu Manoa

    Munster are able to name Conway and Zebo in their back three and it's just as well. Toulon's back three will be absolutely lethal going forward. Chris Ashton, like so many names that arrive in Toulon in the autumn of their careers, has had a renaissance in the south of France. Tuisova is dangerous with ball in hand and Radradra has been one of the finds of the season since arriving from the NRL. I think their halfbacks of Escande and FTD can be gotten at. The pack put out is far from the Toulon pack of old with legendary names like Hayman, Botha and Fernandez Lobbe (in his prime).

    Munster to edge it. The internationals will be relied upon to produce as Munster's form without them has been patchy.

    Who will win? 25 votes

    Munster
    0%
    Toulon
    68%
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    Reggie Corrigan
    32%
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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭ Dbu


    Reggie Corrigan
    Munster:
    Simon Zebo; Andrew Conway, Sammy Arnold, Rory Scannell, Alex Wootton; Ian Keatley, Conor Murray;
    Dave Kilcoyne, Rhys Marshall, Stephen Archer; Jean Kleyn, Billy Holland; Peter O’Mahony (C), Jack O’Donoghue, CJ Stander.

    Replacements: Niall Scannell, James Cronin, John Ryan, Gerbrandt Grobler, Robin Copeland, James Hart, JJ Hanrahan, Darren Sweetnam.

    Toulon:
    15. Chris Ashton; 14. Josua Tuisova, 13. Mathieu Bastareaud, 12. Ma'a Nonu, 11. Semi Radradra; 10. Francois Trinh-Duc, 9. Eric Escande;
    1. Florian Fresia, 2. Guilhem Guirado, 3. Marcel Van Der Merwe, 4. Juandre Kruger, 5. Dave Attwood, 6. Raphael Lakafia, 7. Facundo Isa, 8. Duane Vermeulen
    16. Anthony Etrillard, 17. Xavier Chiocci, 18. Emerick Setiano, 19. Romain Taofifenua, 20. Anthony Belleau, 21. Malakai Fekitoa, 22. Alby Mathewson, 23. Samu Manoa

    Munster are able to name Conway and Zebo in their back three and it's just as well. Toulon's back three will be absolutely lethal going forward. Chris Ashton, like so many names that arrive in Toulon in the autumn of their careers, has had a renaissance in the south of France. Tuisova is dangerous with ball in hand and Radradra has been one of the finds of the season since arriving from the NRL. I think their halfbacks of Escande and FTD can be gotten at. The pack put out is far from the Toulon pack of old with legendary names like Hayman, Botha and Fernandez Lobbe (in his prime).

    All we can do is pray to Jesus.:eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    Toulon
    Toulon:
    15 Delon Armitage, 14 Drew Mitchell, 13 Mathieu Bastareaud, 12 Matt Giteau, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Jonny Wilkinson (c), 9 Sebastien Tillous-Borde;
    1 Xavier Chiocci, 2 Craig Burden, 3 Carl Hayman, 4 Danie Rossouw, 5 Jocelino Suta, 6 Juan Smith, 7 Juan Fernandez Lobbe, 8 Steffon Armitage.

    Replacements: 16 Jean-Charles Orioli, 17 Alexandre Menini, 18 Martin Castrogiovanni, 19 Virgile Bruni, 20 David Smith, 21 Maxime Mermoz, 22 Michael Claassens, 23 Konstantine Mikautadze.

    Munster:
    15 Felix Jones, 14 Keith Earls, 13 Casey Laulala, 12 James Downey, 11 Simon Zebo, 10 Ian Keatley, 9 Conor Murray;
    1 Dave Kilcoyne,
    2 Damien Varley (c), 3 BJ Botha, 4 Dave Foley, 5 Paul O'Connell, 6 CJ Stander, 7 Sean Dougall, 8 James Coughlan.

    Replacements: 16 Duncan Casey, 17 James Cronin, 18 John Ryan, 19 Donncha O'Callaghan, 20 Tommy O'Donnell, 21 Duncan Williams, 22 JJ Hanrahan, 23 Denis Hurley.

    The survivors from the 2014 SF in bold. A few of the above are injured: Suta, Tillous-Borde, Fernandez Lobbe and Habana for Toulon with Earls, Williams and TOD out for Munster.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,278 ✭✭✭✭ AdamD


    Ashton at full back?! Surely a weakness there


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,711 ✭✭✭✭ Interested Observer


    AdamD wrote: »
    Ashton at full back?! Surely a weakness there

    He's been playing fullback a lot for Toulon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    Toulon
    AdamD wrote: »
    Ashton at full back?! Surely a weakness there

    He's been prone to a howler or two but he's already broken the Top14 try scoring record in a single season.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,711 ✭✭✭✭ Interested Observer


    The fact he had 15 on his back is incidental but this will never be not funny.

    http://www.punditarena.com/rugby/bbarry/chris-ashton-gift-bath-try/


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,564 ✭✭✭✭ Buer


    AdamD wrote: »
    Ashton at full back?! Surely a weakness there

    He's been prone to a howler or two but he's already broken the Top14 try scoring record in a single season.

    Tied, no?

    I never know what to make of Toulon's selections. Dave Atwood?

    The bench certainly doesn't scare me too much in the forwards. That said, outside of the front row, that's about as weak a bench as I can remember Munster having in Europe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    Toulon
    Buer wrote: »
    Tied, no?

    I never know what to make of Toulon's selections. Dave Atwood?

    The bench certainly doesn't scare me too much in the forwards. That said, outside of the front row, that's about as weak a bench as I can remember Munster having in Europe.

    Oops, tied.

    Attwood is a medical joker for Joe Suta. Taofifenua is injured as well I think. Edit: Missed him on the bench...


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,226 ✭✭✭✭ Venjur


    Good luck lads, will be cheering for ye.

    Think it's going to be a massive test but hopefully the Thomond crowd will steer ye home.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭ letowski


    Munster have a decent bench, the replacement forwards certainly can bring power and size.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,016 ✭✭✭✭ Mc Love


    If Keatley plays well, we'll win! But saying that, he didnt have a good game against Scarlets and we won, so who knows


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,139 ✭✭✭✭ Akrasia


    Toulon
    I really hope Scannell can finish the game given that he was an injury doubt this week. I'm not sure I'd like Hanrahan or Sweetnam having to be brought on early into 12 or 13


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,016 ✭✭✭ Bridge93


    Very dependent on what Toulon bother to show up but gut says Munster by 5/6


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,711 ✭✭✭✭ Interested Observer


    I think I've gotten over the 49-0 game at the weekend, Munster will win this by a score at least. French teams just do not travel. It barely makes sense considering how un-French Toulon are but it's the way it is. If Oyannax can beat Toulon then Munster can beat Toulon.

    And I have to say I've found the talk of blood-and-guts-and-pashun-and-channel-the-miracle-match and all that in the build up to be pretty cringeworthy. It does no justice to the players Munster have available.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,139 ✭✭✭✭ Akrasia


    Toulon
    Mc Love wrote: »
    If Keatley plays well, we'll win! But saying that, he didnt have a good game against Scarlets and we won, so who knows

    You can't put the entire outcome of a game onto a single players shoulders. And any team that relies on one single player to perform is doomed to failure in the end

    Keatley is a key player, as number 10 always is, but I think our breakdown work is what will win or lose the game on Saturday, and not just our ability to protect our ball and slow down their ball/win turnovers, but also our ability to keep Nigel Owens happy. He's a very difficult referee to read and he can change his interpretation of the laws halfway through a game if he thinks one team are being a bit too cheeky.

    I think the team that manages Owens the best during the game will win through penalty count, assuming that both kickers manage to convert those penalties into points. While Keatley's kicking boots haven't been that reliable recently, if we can use our set piece to put pressure on their line from penalties and scrums, we can use this to send our ball carriers over their line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 Former Former


    Keatley has two jobs;
    - Get the pack into decent territory
    - Kick 80% of his goals

    If he does that, he'll have had a good day.

    Toulon have Trinh-Duc; he's a far better player than Keatley but I'd say it's at least 50-50 that he'll absolutely implode and drag his team down with him.

    Great to see Conway named but he hasn't played in months so he has to be a concern.

    Munster will win.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    Toulon
    Typical former-former.

    Takes every opportunity to slight Keatley. Sad!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,119 Jack Kanoff


    Toulon
    Excited by this... think I'll be spending the most of next week in Limerick anyway...so when we win I can celebrate in schtyle !


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭ mystic86


    I am selling a spare ticket to this, north terrace, cost price (31.50) can meet in Limerick before the game, PM if interested. Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    Toulon
    Weather seems ok.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,240 ✭✭✭ sioda


    Few Toulon fans knocking about town this morning


  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ topdecko


    Reggie Corrigan
    Think Munster will struggle in this game. Quite a few injuries to key players and poor form since Christmas . This coupled with Toulon's depth and particularly their strong back line and bench (2 kiwis on bench) is going to make for a tough afternoon in Thomond. Looking forward to a classic European match and fingers crossed for a great Munster performance....


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,968 ✭✭✭✭ PTH2009


    On the road now

    Hoping for a heroic Munster performance of old. A lot depends on what Toulon show up but have feeling the best one will


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,927 Mod ✭✭✭✭ CatFromHue


    Is the black John Hayes playing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 Former Former


    Trinh Duc benched, damn.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35,003 ✭✭✭✭ LuckyLloyd


    Come on!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,016 ✭✭✭ Bridge93


    That's a penalty try and yellow. Awful decision


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭ phatkev


    Zebo got lucky there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 Former Former


    Absolutely blessed


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭ BBDBB


    He pulled him down


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