Irish DF or French Foreign Legion

preacher2

Hi all,

So basically I want to join military obviously and my real dream is to get into a special operations unit (which I am aware is one of the hardest things on earth to do but hey, someones gotta do it..). So i was initially looking at moving to US and then joining their military, SF is a lot easier to get into there (tier 2 units) however I really dont think US is for me so Im narrowed down to either Irish DF or British Army or French Legion Etrangere (FFL)...

So we all know the most amount of action you will get in the Irish Army is going to the shooting range, and we really dont fully know if the ARW actually get any action at all. The whole Irish Army just seems to be a practice practice and then keep practicing... for nothing.

Im not willing to sacrifice 5 years of my life to an army that is going to do F all..
(I dont consider sitting on a Lebonese border post with binoculers action).

Next option is British, but F that..

So next up we have French. Common misconception: The legion is full of murders. No. Not true. Interpol backround check everyone that enters the legion.
So these guys are very well respected and very very good when it comes to combat. I will be able to get some ACTUAL action, no high vis blue helmets, no sitting on my ass all day during deployments. The best unit I can join are the Commando Parachute Group (GCP) or Commando Mountain Group (GCM). These two units are basically tier 2 units however French SOC do not recognise any tier 2 units unlike many other countries. They only recognise tier 1 units. An example of a T1 unit for those who dont know are the likes of DEVGRU, 1SFODD, 22SAS etc. However, my dream is for a T1 unit, but T2 will do I guess... But the thing is, the legion is 5 years away from home, family and all my loved ones who I will miss growing older etc... Its 40 days leave yearly (after the first year).

So really just asking for anyone who has experience with Irish Army or FFL to help me, I'm struck. Anyone who wants to see what the FFL GCP is, just search French GCP and you will see a general idea of what sort of level they are on..

Thanks

Experience_day

preacher2 wrote: »

Hi all,

So basically I want to join military obviously and my real dream is to get into a special operations unit (which I am aware is one of the hardest things on earth to do but hey, someones gotta do it..). So i was initially looking at moving to US and then joining their military, SF is a lot easier to get into there (tier 2 units) however I really dont think US is for me so Im narrowed down to either Irish DF or British Army or French Legion Etrangere (FFL)...

So we all know the most amount of action you will get in the Irish Army is going to the shooting range, and we really dont fully know if the ARW actually get any action at all. The whole Irish Army just seems to be a practice practice and then keep practicing... for nothing.

Im not willing to sacrifice 5 years of my life to an army that is going to do F all..
(I dont consider sitting on a Lebonese border post with binoculers action).

Next option is British, but F that..

So next up we have French. Common misconception: The legion is full of murders. No. Not true. Interpol backround check everyone that enters the legion.
So these guys are very well respected and very very good when it comes to combat. I will be able to get some ACTUAL action, no high vis blue helmets, no sitting on my ass all day during deployments. The best unit I can join are the Commando Parachute Group (GCP) or Commando Mountain Group (GCM). These two units are basically tier 2 units however French SOC do not recognise any tier 2 units unlike many other countries. They only recognise tier 1 units. An example of a T1 unit for those who dont know are the likes of DEVGRU, 1SFODD, 22SAS etc. However, my dream is for a T1 unit, but T2 will do I guess... But the thing is, the legion is 5 years away from home, family and all my loved ones who I will miss growing older etc... Its 40 days leave yearly (after the first year).

So really just asking for anyone who has experience with Irish Army or FFL to help me, I'm struck. Anyone who wants to see what the FFL GCP is, just search French GCP and you will see a general idea of what sort of level they are on..

Thanks

Not sure why you would discount the British army, I would say lots of elements would be more rigorous and disciplined than the FFL..

I might suggest (assuming you haven't) getting a familiarisation visit etc with then. Having a chat might focus expectations and ideals. What age are you?

I would also not expect to get a nod in at any reasonable positions in FFL, fairly insular bunch and they are loathe to put non French in decent roles..

preacher2

Experience_day wrote: »

Not sure why you would discount the British army, I would say lots of elements would be more rigorous and disciplined than the FFL..

I might suggest (assuming you haven't) getting a familiarisation visit etc with then. Having a chat might focus expectations and ideals. What age are you?

I would also not expect to get a nod in at any reasonable positions in FFL, fairly insular bunch and they are loathe to put non French in decent roles..

Ye I get you completely, FFL legionnaires cant become NCOs unless its like 15 years, I may be wrong, and I dont feel like wearing a union jack on my arm and fighting for a country that was so disgusting towards my own. Thats how it is for me and many others alike...

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Hitman3000

preacher2 wrote:

So we all know the most amount of action you will get in the Irish Army is going to the shooting range, and we really dont fully know if the ARW actually get any action at all. The whole Irish Army just seems to be a practice practice and then keep practicing... for nothing.

preacher2 wrote:

Im not willing to sacrifice 5 years of my life to an army that is going to do F all.. (I dont consider sitting on a Lebonese border post with binoculers action).

These 2 paragraphs show you know zero about the ARW and totally clueless as to what peacekeeping entails. Maybe educate yourself instead of posting ill informed rubbish.

preacher2

testicles wrote: »

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Good one but no sorry to disappoint.

preacher2

Hitman3000 wrote: »

These 2 paragraphs show you know zero about the ARW and totally clueless as to what peacekeeping entails. Maybe educate yourself instead of posting ill informed rubbish.

Well first of all I know a lot about ARW and peacekeeping, but I am sorry to piss on your bonfire but Irish peacekeepers do **** all. Simple. I am not sure about whether or not ARW even get deployed for Tier 1 missions or not and unless you are a ranger or you are special ops command etc you dont know either so how about you keep your ugly face shut ye thanks pal

Blazer

The closest kid you’ll get to a SF unit is in call of duty. Now trot off to bed before your mother finds you posting rubbish on the net.

Fann Linn

preacher2 wrote: »

Well first of all I know a lot about ARW and peacekeeping, but I am sorry to piss on your bonfire but Irish peacekeepers do **** all. Simple. I am not sure about whether or not ARW even get deployed for Tier 1 missions or not and unless you are a ranger or you are special ops command etc you dont know either so how about you keep your ugly face shut ye thanks pal

Have a relative who was in Chad as part of a special ops group who came back with medals for some big rescue. You coulddo a lot worse.

Jacko753

preacher2 wrote: »

Hi all,

So basically I want to join military obviously and my real dream is to get into a special operations unit (which I am aware is one of the hardest things on earth to do but hey, someones gotta do it..). So i was initially looking at moving to US and then joining their military, SF is a lot easier to get into there (tier 2 units) however I really dont think US is for me so Im narrowed down to either Irish DF or British Army or French Legion Etrangere (FFL)...

So we all know the most amount of action you will get in the Irish Army is going to the shooting range, and we really dont fully know if the ARW actually get any action at all. The whole Irish Army just seems to be a practice practice and then keep practicing... for nothing.

Im not willing to sacrifice 5 years of my life to an army that is going to do F all..
(I dont consider sitting on a Lebonese border post with binoculers action).

Next option is British, but F that..

So next up we have French. Common misconception: The legion is full of murders. No. Not true. Interpol backround check everyone that enters the legion.
So these guys are very well respected and very very good when it comes to combat. I will be able to get some ACTUAL action, no high vis blue helmets, no sitting on my ass all day during deployments. The best unit I can join are the Commando Parachute Group (GCP) or Commando Mountain Group (GCM). These two units are basically tier 2 units however French SOC do not recognise any tier 2 units unlike many other countries. They only recognise tier 1 units. An example of a T1 unit for those who dont know are the likes of DEVGRU, 1SFODD, 22SAS etc. However, my dream is for a T1 unit, but T2 will do I guess... But the thing is, the legion is 5 years away from home, family and all my loved ones who I will miss growing older etc... Its 40 days leave yearly (after the first year).

So really just asking for anyone who has experience with Irish Army or FFL to help me, I'm struck. Anyone who wants to see what the FFL GCP is, just search French GCP and you will see a general idea of what sort of level they are on..

Thanks

Have a few mates in the Irish army you get paid great money for doing feck all and when you come back you are known as a hero keeping the peace.

I think a good portion of Ireland is truly deluded about what the Irish army actually does. Go with the Irish army but if you want action go with the legion.

Hitman3000

preacher2 wrote:

Well first of all I know a lot about ARW and peacekeeping, but I am sorry to piss on your bonfire but Irish peacekeepers do **** all. Simple. I am not sure about whether or not ARW even get deployed for Tier 1 missions or not and unless you are a ranger or you are special ops command etc you dont know either so how about you keep your ugly face shut ye thanks pal

You know nothing of operational deployment of the ARW and completely ignorant of the role of peacekeepers, lastly your last few words prove another poster correct in his guess . You are a child. Go to bed. I'm out.

Blazer

Christ the troll accounts are out tonight.its ban hammer time.

lifeandtimes

You want to go and get action?

You realise the ultimate goal of an army or "defence" force is the protection of people?

You sound like a kid who learned one class karate and then gies looking for a fight .

Might be best you have a chat with a real army officer so you can tell him or her you want to shoot some badies and then they can put you in your place

Jacko753

Hitman3000 wrote: »

You know nothing of operational deployment of the ARW and completely ignorant of the role of peacekeepers, lastly your last few words prove another poster correct in his guess . You are a child. Go to bed. I'm out.

The Irish army do absolutely nothing and they make good money doing it.

lifeandtimes

Jacko753 wrote: »

The Irish army do absolutely nothing and they make good money doing it.

Say that to all the flooding victims they help and back up they provide when required

preacher2

First of all Id like to thank all the guys who gave me some more insight into what they know, helps alot lads cheers.

For all the rambos and ****in donkeys chattin ****, get off your keyboard and go do something worthy of your life. Im here trying to better mine.

Banterbus28

preacher2 wrote: »

Experience_day wrote: »

Not sure why you would discount the British army, I would say lots of elements would be more rigorous and disciplined than the FFL..

I might suggest (assuming you haven't) getting a familiarisation visit etc with then. Having a chat might focus expectations and ideals. What age are you?

I would also not expect to get a nod in at any reasonable positions in FFL, fairly insular bunch and they are loathe to put non French in decent roles..

Ye I get you completely, FFL legionnaires cant become NCOs unless its like 15 years, I may be wrong, and I dont feel like wearing a union jack on my arm and fighting for a country that was so disgusting towards my own. Thats how it is for me and many others alike...

Yet half of the Irish Guards are from ROI and a good 40% of the Royal Irish are alao from ROI...

It's a job ffs you dont have to sell your soul.

Jacko753

lifeandtimes wrote: »

You want to go and get action?

You realise the ultimate goal of an army or "defence" force is the protection of people?

You sound like a kid who learned one class karate and then gies looking for a fight .

Might be best you have a chat with a real army officer so you can tell him or her you want to shoot some badies and then they can put you in your place

You realise the British army is full of chavs who think just like that? The two main reasons people join the British army are lack of opportunity or for the action.

Hitman3000

Jacko753 wrote:

The Irish army do absolutely nothing and they make good money doing it.

Another knowledgeable child. They're all up late tonight, no school tomorrow.

preacher2

Blazer wrote: »

The closest kid you’ll get to a SF unit is in call of duty. Now trot off to bed before your mother finds you posting rubbish on the net.

We will see about that. But ill take your advice because ill take any advice from an actual operator.

Thanks for your service in the Special Keyboard and Tactics Group keep up the work and stay safe out there.

****ing donkey

endacl

Blazer wrote: »

Christ the troll accounts are out tonight.its ban hammer time.

Easter holidays. Wait till Sunday when they’re all ramped up on chocolate!

lifeandtimes

preacher2 wrote: »

For all the rambos and ****in donkeys chattin ****, get off your keyboard and go do something worthy of your life. Im here trying to better mine.

By slating the Irish defence force among with other posters is not you bettering yourself.

Your attitude stinks and to be honest I think the US marines would be best suited to give you a kick up your hole to give you some actually respect for what they do.

It's not all guns blazing, man down, toss that granade that call of duty has thought you.

It's years of hard work and training, months away from family, following orders to a T and possibly having to see action which isn't for everyone

Jacko753

Banterbus28 wrote: »

Yet half of the Irish Guards are from ROI and a good 40% of the Royal Irish are alao from ROI...

It's a job ffs you dont have to sell your soul.

Until you have to kill some 14 year old Iraqi or otherwise who's trying to kill you because you killed his entire family in an airstrike.

Stephen15

lifeandtimes wrote: »

Say that to all the flooding victims they help and back up they provide when required

How often do they do that every 6 months or so. Most of the work of the Irish army could be done by the fire brigade if they were better resourced.

Banterbus28

Can you honestly say that you have any idea of what being cold and wet really feels like?

If you can't.

Try it then get back to us.

endacl

This thread should be merged with the ‘what’s the food like in the foreign legion’ one....

Jacko753

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Another knowledgeable child. They're all up late tonight, no school tomorrow.

Are you in the army? Don't like me ruining you're hero perception of yourself?

preacher2

Also seems like a lot o twats who have a very limited vocabulary and with that a very limited amount of insults. All ive heard so far is "your like 12".

No im actually 1 year off being able to join a military. Just to clear that up and since your all pretty retarded anyway i guess ill have to make it even easier! I am 17.

And unlike the ones chatting **** im actually going to do some service but I dont want that to be on a Lebonese border post on my ass while soldiers are fighting in places that need to be fought in.

I dont want to kill anyone, I want to help people who are oppressed, I want to fight terrorism, free hostages and better the world by fighting the bad. But when people like yous go out of your way to chat ****... on the INTERNET it proves that there is still a lot of bad in my own country.

Banterbus28

Jacko753 wrote: »

Banterbus28 wrote: »

Yet half of the Irish Guards are from ROI and a good 40% of the Royal Irish are alao from ROI...

It's a job ffs you dont have to sell your soul.

Until you have to kill some 14 year old Iraqi or otherwise who's trying to kill you because you killed his entire family in an airstrike.

OP is asking about where is best to soldier. Not really relevent is it?

Banterbus28

preacher2 wrote: »

Also seems like a lot o twats who have a very limited vocabulary and with that a very limited amount of insults. All ive heard so far is "your like 12".

No im actually 1 year off being able to join a military. Just to clear that up and since your all pretty retarded anyway i guess ill have to make it even easier! I am 17.

And unlike the ones chatting **** im actually going to do some service but I dont want that to be on a Lebonese border post on my ass while soldiers are fighting in places that need to be fought in.

I dont want to kill anyone, I want to help people who are oppressed, I want to fight terrorism, free hostages and better the world by fighting the bad. But when people like yous go out of your way to chat ****... on the INTERNET it proves that there is still a lot of bad in my own country.

You can join the British Army now if your really wanted to. Learn a trade at no cost to yourself. Getting time served. Of you love it stay on passed your 4 years if not leave and you have atrade and tine served to get out and earn some real money.

Hitman3000

Jacko753 wrote:

Are you in the army? Don't like me ruining you're hero perception of yourself?

Sorry dude I ain't feeding you. Off to bed with you.

preacher2

Man i only asked a question. To get a bunch of pussies who think they are rambo commenting is funny as ****.

endacl

preacher2 wrote: »

I am 17.

Ahhhhhh.....

OK

Thread explained.

preacher2

lifeandtimes wrote: »

Say that to all the flooding victims they help and back up they provide when required

Im not looking to join the fire service or civil defence or coast guard here, im joining a military.

Banterbus28

Foreign Legion won't give you a trade...

Jacko753

lifeandtimes wrote: »

By slating the Irish defence force among with other posters is not you bettering yourself.

Your attitude stinks and to be honest I think the US marines would be best suited to give you a kick up your hole to give you some actually respect for what they do.

It's not all guns blazing, man down, toss that granade that call of duty has thought you.

It's years of hard work and training, months away from family, following orders to a T and possibly having to see action which isn't for everyone

Oh yes the great work of the US marines here's one of many examples of the great US marines doing their good work.

The hadatha massacre 24 unarmed civilians killed among the dead were men, women, children and elderly people, who were shot multiple times at close range while unarmed. It was alleged that the killings were a retribution for the attack on a convoy of Marines with an improvised explosive device that killed Lance Corporal Miguel Terrazas.

Hitman3000

endacl wrote:

OK

So who guessed he was a child first give that man a biscuit.

preacher2

endacl wrote: »

Ahhhhhh.....

OK

Thread explained.

Yes? I am joining a military in 1 year, id like a bit of advice from people. So far ive got like 3 decent comments and a heap of retards chatting ****. I cant imagine how many of them are 15 year old fat kids pulling all nighters on Monster Energy and then the ones who are 30+ who are still virgins and are stalking the boards at 1 in the morning.. This place, mad....

Banterbus28

Jacko753 wrote: »

lifeandtimes wrote: »

By slating the Irish defence force among with other posters is not you bettering yourself.

Your attitude stinks and to be honest I think the US marines would be best suited to give you a kick up your hole to give you some actually respect for what they do.

It's not all guns blazing, man down, toss that granade that call of duty has thought you.

It's years of hard work and training, months away from family, following orders to a T and possibly having to see action which isn't for everyone

Oh yes the great work of the US marines here's one of many examples of the great US marines doing their good work.

The hadatha massacre 24 unarmed civilians killed among the dead were men, women, children and elderly people, who were shot multiple times at close range while unarmed. It was alleged that the killings were a retribution for the attack on a convoy of Marines with an improvised explosive device that killed Lance Corporal Miguel Terrazas.

Horrendous actions.

Yet barely pales to the thousands of Shia muslims, Kurds and Christians murdered by IS...

preacher2

Hitman3000 wrote: »

So who guessed he was a child first give that man a biscuit.

Sorry pal what military do you currently serve with?

lifeandtimes

preacher2 wrote: »

Man i only asked a question. To get a bunch of pussies who think they are rambo commenting is funny as ****.

No actually your post makes you come across as soon kid who wants to be Rambo. Which is pretty much the truth.

You want the glory of bursting in a door to save hostages when really it's probably one of the most dangerous situations a person can put themselves in that takes years and years of training from the ground up.

Join whichever army will have you, they'll soon have that mentality beat out of you

endacl

Hitman3000 wrote: »

So who guessed he was a child first give that man a biscuit.

For hob nobbing online? Couldn’t give a fig roll. It’s a bit rich tea.

Ave Sodalis

Just to jump on the thread while it's still open, if that's okay? Would someone with the OPs attitude and temperment get into the military?

Jacko753

Banterbus28 wrote: »

Horrendous actions.

Yet barely pales to the thousands of Shia muslims, Kurds and Christians murdered by IS...

Actually, if you want to add them all up it's far worse.

Hitman3000

preacher2 wrote:

Sorry pal what military do you currently serve with?

I don't I served my time with whom, none of your business. But I ain't going to listen a shot nose kid talk sh*te about something they know nothing about. You want proper proper advice? learn some manners and realise you know next to nothing at 17.

Banterbus28

Jacko753 wrote: »

Banterbus28 wrote: »

Horrendous actions.

Yet barely pales to the thousands of Shia muslims, Kurds and Christians murdered by IS...

Actually, if you want to add them all up it's far worse.

We get it you are a pacifist.

Sorry to burst your snowflake but sometimes violence is the answer.

The OP wants a jobs and asked for advice if you want to have a philosophical debate find other SJWs to chat to.

Jacko753

preacher2 wrote: »

Sorry pal what military do you currently serve with?

The Irish one I guess

preacher2

lifeandtimes wrote: »

No actually your post makes you come across as soon kid who wants to be Rambo. Which is pretty much the truth.

You want the glory of bursting in a door to save hostages when really it's probably one of the most dangerous situations a person can put themselves in that takes years and years of training from the ground up.
Join whichever army will have you, they'll soon have that mentality beat out of you

No i am completely aware of what i must first go through to join any military you are just assuming im a little fat **** who plays cod all day and thinks he will be 420 no scoping taliban.

No, I know its 4 hour sleeps and pure hard work all day, running marching fitness cleaning toilets repeat. You are assuming things which makes you look like a ****ing tart. I was very polite in my initial post now piss off back under your rock

lifeandtimes

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

Just to jump on the thread while it's still open, if that's okay? Would someone with the OPs attitude and temperment get into the military?

Of course, that's the kind of attitide they love to work out of punks by making them do 500 push ups in the mud while it's raining

Hitman3000

Ave Sodalis wrote:

Just to jump on the thread while it's still open, if that's okay? Would someone with the OPs attitude and temperment get into the military?

Unlikely.

Jacko753

preacher2 wrote: »

Sorry pal what military do you currently serve with?

Probably scratching his ass in Lebanon as we speak