***** Motors chat - round 12 *****

ELM327

I'd just park in the Jervis st carpark to be honest.
Close to temple bar and is relatively cheap too at weekends. That's my usual haunt anytime I'm in the big smoke.

Marcusm

Big Nasty wrote: »

Park & Ride in Balally (D14), Luas in to city centre, back out the following morning to Dundrum TC for brunch and a bit of retail therapy / Christmas shopping. Tip off on the M50 with a full belly. Be perfectly primed for more pints by the time you land home.

€8 from 6pm to 9am then €3.40 and hour from Fleet St car park or €18 for 24 hours from same place if your hotel offers it.

Dartz

The NCT has been defeated. Despite another light bulb blowing halfway through the test...

On the other hand. Am gobsmacked at the pedantry of some people. Left some extra space to the right to avoid smacking doors in the crapark and some twit in a suit got pissy because the other set of wheels were over the line? I mean seriously, do you not see how ****ing fat I am?

Toyotafanboi

I see BMW have finally addressed the whole "all our cars are going on fire" thing not a minute too soon for owners either.

colm_mcm

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I see BMW have finally addressed the whole "all our cars are going on fire" thing not a minute too soon for owners either.

It’s only the 4 cylinder diesels though

selous

noticed a 06 BMW 3 series today with all weather tyres on the front wheel and summer tyres on the rear....hmmmm,:rolleyes:

Toyotafanboi

colm_mcm wrote: »

It’s only the 4 cylinder diesels though

The article I read said the 3.0 6 cyls in certain 5 and 7 series were affected but I don't know a lot about it tbh.

EPAndlee

Heard about that recall a few weeks ago, as if dealer didn't have enough recalls to be dealing with

bazz26

It's to do with a potential coolant leak in the EGR cooler. Affects both 2.0 litre and 3.0 litre diesel engines. I await a letter from them to tell me there is no part available yet but to be patient.

punisher5112

bazz26 wrote: »

It's to do with a potential coolant leak in the EGR cooler. Affects both 2.0 litre and 3.0 litre diesel engines. I await a letter from them to tell me there is no part available yet but to be patient.

Only option is set it on fire be done with the worrying.....

Wailin

colm_mcm wrote: »

It’s only the 4 cylinder diesels though

Nah 6 cylinder too, got the letter last week.

MetzgerMeister

Wailin wrote: »

Nah 6 cylinder too, got the letter last week.

As did I. I've experienced 3 of the 4 symptoms they listed. Not looking forward to what the loaner car will be :pac:

Wailin

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

As did I. I've experienced 3 of the 4 symptoms they listed. Not looking forward to what the loaner car will be :pac:

And it could be a long loaner....no parts available at all for N57 engine.

MetzgerMeister

Wailin wrote: »

And it could be a long loaner....no parts available at all for N57 engine.

Yep, they're on backorder apparently.

I think what they're doing is checking the cars to see if they will do the work and giving them back until the parts are in so the work is done further down the line.

GustavoFring

What are the symptoms?

Didn't get a letter yet.

MetzgerMeister

GustavoFring wrote: »

What are the symptoms?

Didn't get a letter yet.

1. The low engine coolant warning is displayed to the driver
2. The check engine and/or drivetrain warning message is displayed to the driver
3. A loss of power from the engine whilst driving
4. Smell of exhaust gas and a whistling noise from the engine compartment

I've experienced 2, 3 and 4.

Wailin

You really should be handing that car in immediately MM!

MetzgerMeister

Wailin wrote: »

You really should be handing that car in immediately MM!

Yep, this is true!

ELM327

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

1. The low engine coolant is displayed to the driver
2. The check engine and/or drivetrain warning message is displayed to the driver
3. A loss of power from the engine whilst driving
4. Smell of exhaust gas and a whistling noise from the engine compartment

I've experienced 2, 3 and 4.

I had 2 3 and 4 displayed to me too (in an e61) and it was turbo failure.
Managed to punt the car on before it failed but it was the early signs.

bazz26

No letter and no symptoms yet here. I'm guessing since I didn't buy mine through the main dealer network that they might be prioritizing main dealer customers first. Car will be going in for a service with them with in the next month so I'll ask them to inspect it then.

GustavoFring

Can hear the whistling noise from the front right of the engine compartment sometimes alright but any other I've driven have had it. No other issues.

ednwireland

gobsmacked the 05 skoda went through another test first time had to slam the door to get the window to go down as he drove it into the test centre (doesnt work all the time loose connection somewhere !) but kind nct man passed me. just an advisory on the bonnet release been stiff and a bulb allegedly out on the rear (thought the bulb sensor was supposed to pick that up) - but they are apparently working to 50% of lights working in multi rear lights (which is weird IMO ) so must get that fixed

James Bond Junior

I have heard the Ethnic minorities are targeting classics a lot these days.

ELM327

James Bond Junior wrote: »

I have heard the Ethnic minorities are targeting classics a lot these days.

Careful now, that's too much of a truth and you'll be called racist

vintagevrs

How do manufacturers contact owners of cars that are due a recall if it's not in the dealer network? Do revenue release the registered owner details to them for cars that meet the criteria? The service manager told me there is a recall outstanding on my car for the egr. No parts available though. So I asked them to contact me when they get the parts and they refused asking me to just check back in a month or two. No symptoms as yet thankfully.

Alanstrainor

vintagevrs wrote: »

How do manufacturers contact owners of cars that are due a recall if it's not in the dealer network? Do revenue release the registered owner details to them for cars that meet the criteria? The service manager told me there is a recall outstanding on my car for the egr. No parts available though. So I asked them to contact me when they get the parts and they refused asking me to just check back in a month or two. No symptoms as yet thankfully.

I have had notices for recalls on my 2001 for safety items (airbag), so I presume in those cases they are given the current owners details from shannon. But that might not be the cases for non safety items such as an EGR. That reminds me that I have an airbag recall on the Nissan Note.

Leonard Hofstadter

For safety recalls they're supposed to contact Shannon who will give them the names and addresses, and then they will contact the owners. In this way, even imports should be covered. It shouldn't make any difference if the car goes into a main dealer all the time, or none of the time.

ELM327

Leonard Hofstadter wrote: »

For safety recalls they're supposed to contact Shannon who will give them the names and addresses, and then they will contact the owners. In this way, even imports should be covered. It shouldn't make any difference if the car goes into a main dealer all the time, or none of the time.

Surely that is not GDPR compliant.

morritty

ELM327 wrote: »

Surely that is not GDPR compliant.

It is complient.

"1. How does the right to be forgotten work in principle?
If an individual exercises their right to be forgotten, the data controller must take reasonable steps to inform all parties in the supply chain who are processing the subject’s personal data about the erasure. However, unsubscribing or opting-out from marketing communications is different from the right to be forgotten. In the case of an individual no longer wanting to receive direct marketing communications, an organisation should retain their personal data information as long as necessary in an ‘unsubscribe’ file, making sure all parties in the supply chain are aware.

The right to be forgotten doesn’t mean you have to delete your existing suppression files either. These will still be required to make sure you do not contact those people that have asked you not to get in touch, and is a separate requirement. This means organisations will be able to retain customer information to contact them about safety or product recall concerns even if that customer has exercised the right to be forgotten."

ELM327

morritty wrote: »

It is complient.

"1. How does the right to be forgotten work in principle?
If an individual exercises their right to be forgotten, the data controller must take reasonable steps to inform all parties in the supply chain who are processing the subject’s personal data about the erasure. However, unsubscribing or opting-out from marketing communications is different from the right to be forgotten. In the case of an individual no longer wanting to receive direct marketing communications, an organisation should retain their personal data information as long as necessary in an ‘unsubscribe’ file, making sure all parties in the supply chain are aware.

The right to be forgotten doesn’t mean you have to delete your existing suppression files either. These will still be required to make sure you do not contact those people that have asked you not to get in touch, and is a separate requirement. This means organisations will be able to retain customer information to contact them about safety or product recall concerns even if that customer has exercised the right to be forgotten."

I'm not questioning the right to be forgotten.
I'm questioning the right of private companies to receive PII from a government body.

GDPR is about much, much more than the right to be forgotten. It controls your rights to control your personal data and the storage and retention of same.