***** Motors chat - round 12 *****

Big Nasty

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Maybe someone here can tell me, just how sh,ite the Nissan leaf actually is ?

Often been driving down the M1 in a coach and always noticed after I overtake a leaf, they push up to my back bumper (looking for the slip stream no doubt)

Are they really that sh,it you can only do 70-80 kmh on a motorway and have to tie a rope to the vehicle in front !

Fecking clown cars.

They would LOVE you in the EV forum! :pac:

Tazzimus

EV cars aren't quite ready to replace petrol/diesels yet for long commuting, tech isn't good enough and the infrastructure here seems to be lacking a lot. They actually removed the charge points at the Red Cow Luas car park I believe.

If it's city driving and lots of short trips, I imagine they're ideal.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Big Nasty wrote: »

They would LOVE you in the EV forum! :pac:

That's why I'm posting here 😂

Low battery is no excuse for bad driving !

Big Nasty

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

That's why I'm posting here ��

Low battery is no excuse for bad driving !

EV owners are the vegans of the motoring world. How do you know if someone drives an EV? Because they tell you. EV's are better than any other form of transport. Owners share tips on how to save energy while driving, e.g. no a/c, keep windows closed to reduce drag, slip streaming, etc.

My wife drives a PHEV

jprboy

Horses for courses.

I clocked up almost 140,000 km in just over 4 years in a Leaf, fantastic car.

Massive savings on fuel, cheap tax and very low maintenance costs.

Fully pre-heated and defrosted every morning during the winter. Never wore a coat in the car during my long commute, no matter how cold it was.

Put up more mileage on it during that time than our "main" car, a 2.0L diesel.

Diesel used for long journeys at weekends but Leaf always used otherwise.

And, man, that instant torque never failed to please.

I never held other cars up. Had two experiences of BMWs (not having a go here, btw, just facts) tailgating me aggressively on some twisty roads where I was actually driving above the speed limit. Left them for dead when I pulled out at the next junction!

tossy

Big Nasty wrote: »

EV owners are the vegans of the motoring world. How do you know if someone drives an EV? Because they tell you. EV's are better than any other form of transport. Owners share tips on how to save energy while driving, e.g. no a/c, keep windows closed to reduce drag, slip streaming, etc.

My wife drives a PHEV

TLDR Ev owners are a pain in the hole.

tossy

jprboy wrote: »

.Left them for dead when I pulled out at the next junction!

What kind of BMW is a nissan leaf leaving for dead ? 316 ,318?

Old diesel

EV tech is evolving.

The infrastructure isn't quite there yet in IRELAND.

The Dutch, Scots and Norwegians do better on EV infrastructure.

Charger technology is improving as are a lot of the cars - the Kona EV has over 200 miles range for example.

200 plus kw charging is already on the table with Tesla and Porsche are aiming for 350 kw charging with Taycan.

The Leaf is not really reflective of what modern EVs can do - most of the other EV suppliers have better battery cooling for example.

Using a Leaf as the yardstick for EVs would be like saying every diesel blows up because your friends Mazda blew up.

There is still work to be done though - EV charger availability needs to be more widespread and more reliable.

But the tech is getting there - latest thinking includes.....

1) charging from street lamps - with your charge cable having smart technology on it that can talk to street charger and the company you pay for the cars energy*.

2) a UK company are developing chargers that can go back into the ground when not in use - and pop up when needed - like those fancy security bollards you see.

3) 350 kw charging - to max the potential off 800 volt battery tech like the Porsche Taycan.

To illustrate what 350 kw charging means - you could charge 250 miles range in around 14 minutes.

4) Dundee have charging Hubs where you can have say 10 to 15 cars charge at once in a space similar to current petrol stations.

5) Tesla is doing important work with its supercharging network in showing whats possible.

*Ubitricity are a company who are looking at this in places like London.

ELM327

The bottom line (as someone who did >100k km in 2 Evs in less than 2 years) is that the EV tech is not there yet
It doesn't match the convenience of petrol and diesel.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Maybe someone here can tell me, just how sh,ite the Nissan leaf actually is ?

Often been driving down the M1 in a coach and always noticed after I overtake a leaf, they push up to my back bumper (looking for the slip stream no doubt)

Are they really that sh,it you can only do 70-80 kmh on a motorway and have to tie a rope to the vehicle in front !

Fecking clown cars.

The E golf is as bad if not worse, laughable range.

CIP4

Said goodbye to the GTI for two weeks this afternoon as it got parked up in the airport carpark. Looking forward to a nice break in Cyprus though it has been a busy summer in work. Will be mainly driving an Ateca 1.4tsi DSG out there its a nice car to cruise around in.

Also I know it’s not the best parking spot but was tight on time and the carpark was quite busy.

punisher5112

CIP4 wrote: »

Said goodbye to the GTI for two weeks this afternoon as it got parked up in the airport carpark. Looking forward to a nice break in Cyprus though it has been a busy summer in work. Will be mainly driving an Ateca 1.4tsi DSG out there its a nice car to cruise around in.

Also I know it’s not the best parking spot but was tight on time and the carpark was quite busy.

Ah you could have left the keys, I could have kept it going so the battery wouldn't go flat on you.... Now saying that there would be many many many more km on the clock...

CIP4

punisher5112 wrote: »

Ah you could have left the keys, I could have kept it going so the battery wouldn't go flat on you.... Now saying that there would be many many many more km on the clock...

Funnily enough I got a good few offers of people willing to ‘mind’ the car for me while I was gone :pac:

GustavoFring

tossy wrote: »

What kind of BMW is a nissan leaf leaving for dead ? 316 ,318?

http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel6938-4374.htm

Seems fairly even a gen 1 leaf against a 316d but facts and figures seem to matter little in these things.

Old diesel

EVs can take off quick from a standing start and be relatively fast up to sub 30 mph speeds.

You get full torque at 0 rpm.

It can look like you are flying away from other cars in the initial take off.

I doubt the poster is saying his Leaf was faster then a BMW.

In other

GustavoFring

Old diesel wrote: »

EVs can take off quick from a standing start and be relatively fast up to sub 30 mph speeds.

You get full torque at 0 rpm.

It can look like you are flying away from other cars in the initial take off.

I doubt the poster is saying his Leaf was faster then a BMW.

In other

Ah I get it, drove a leaf and it is great away from the lights and all that. Many ICE autos will be fairly similar to it though, plenty better too.

Old diesel

ELM327 wrote: »

The bottom line (as someone who did >100k km in 2 Evs in less than 2 years) is that the EV tech is not there yet
It doesn't match the convenience of petrol and diesel.

I only said it was evolving - not that it's there yet.

100 mile and less range - plus Irish infrastructure dont fully reflect EV potential imo.

Hence why I say it's evolving.

I would say that a Model 3 doing 250 miles and recharging at 250 kw at Superchargers presents evolution from 100 mile range and ESB crappy chargers.

But that capability both on the car side and the charger side needs to become much more widespread and cars at that level of capability need to become easier to afford.

Old diesel

The new London taxi points to another direction - you have your 80 miles EV range and can drive and charge as a BEV - but it also has a Volvo petrol engine to act as a generator to charge the battery as required.

So you could still use petrol power when charging isn't an option and get the range and top up benefits of petrol

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Actually, leaving the EV talk aside, (which I'm sorry I started)

Can anyone recommend a Volvo Indy to do small jobs in Dublin or near ?

More specifically I've the Volvo phone that requires a full sim card in it to work which I would like to swap over to Bluetooth using the original stuff rather than going parrot etc

Also I have aux input in the center console which works but badly as if it's not connected right, a common failure it seems and needs replacing or fixing

Any recommendations be great, cheers !

Wailin

Lads, who would you recommend in Dublin for suspension work? I'm planning to have my bmw f10 lowered with eibach pro kit springs. The car has variable damper control (vdc) so it sits a little high compared to m sport suspension. The eibach springs will drop it to around m sport suspension, or maybe 5mm less so nothing major. But because of the adjustable dampers, I want to make sure it's done right!

bennyx_o

Alloy-Wheels in Blanchardstown

wotzgoingon

Them Honda saloons are fast.


https://www.facebook.com/WorldwideHonda/videos/370412390564867/

Dartz

Driving around with an open manifold is fun. As in, look at that eejit whos car is so loud he's wearing ear defenders while driving around. You could see people giving dirty looks and I always gave them a blip on the pedal going past. Open-pipe on a rotary is a unique noise - like being inside a tin shed while trying to shred it with a chainsaw.

Of course, the floor was getting hot since the open manifold was right underneath it, but keep the speed up and it'd be fine.

Anyway, all good things. It's been fixed.



That cross member there? Turns out that had been cut too. Couldn't see it in the photo until it was handed to me.

It was the only thing keeping the exhaust from dropping onto the road.

Tazzimus

Dartz wrote: »

Driving around with an open manifold is fun. As in, look at that eejit whos car is so loud he's wearing ear defenders while driving around. You could see people giving dirty looks and I always gave them a blip on the pedal going past. Open-pipe on a rotary is a unique noise - like being inside a tin shed while trying to shred it with a chainsaw.

Of course, the floor was getting hot since the open manifold was right underneath it, but keep the speed up and it'd be fine.

Anyway, all good things. It's been fixed.



That cross member there? Turns out that had been cut too. Couldn't see it in the photo until it was handed to me.

It was the only thing keeping the exhaust from dropping onto the road.

When I was putting the J's Racing exhaust on the DC2, I discovered one of the pieces was off a Civic and wouldn't fit.
Cue driving from Swords to the Naas Road with half an exhaust on, making a LOT of noise. The piece that was fitted stopped just under the seats, so that was fun.

Midnight_EG

Tazzimus wrote: »

When I was putting the J's Racing exhaust on the DC2, I discovered one of the pieces was off a Civic and wouldn't fit.
Cue driving from Swords to the Naas Road with half an exhaust on, making a LOT of noise. The piece that was fitted stopped just under the seats, so that was fun.

Happened me with my DC2 as well, I'd just put on a J's manifold but turns out the exhaust collector was bigger than what I had so rang with just the manifold for a day...oh my days was it loud :eek::P I went past a mate (in VTEC ) and he said it sounded like the World had stopped :pac:

Tazzimus

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Happened me with my DC2 as well, I'd just put on a J's manifold but turns out the exhaust collector was bigger than what I had so rang with just the manifold for a day...oh my days was it loud :eek::P I went past a mate (in VTEC ) and he said it sounded like the World had stopped :pac:

Yeah I gave mine beans down the M50 and probably gave everyone around me Tinnitus.
How I don't have hearing issues from it is a miracle.

I remember out in Mondello I did a few passes close to the pit wall. One of the lads came over after I came in described it as offensively loud. I miss that

Midnight_EG

Tazzimus wrote: »

Yeah I gave mine beans down the M50 and probably gave everyone around me Tinnitus.
How I don't have hearing issues from it is a miracle.

I remember out in Mondello I did a few passes close to the pit wall. One of the lads came over after I came in described it as offensively loud. I miss that

I shot my exhaust out from the back of the car in Mondello once, literally manifold back came out in one piece :eek:

Tazzimus

Least it was in one piece for handy collection
Bolts at the manifold break or something?

Could have been worse, could have done bottom end, like mine

Midnight_EG

Tazzimus wrote: »

Least it was in one piece for handy collection
Bolts at the manifold break or something?

Could have been worse, could have done bottom end, like mine

Slipjoint/U-bolt came loose and shat out, it was under-axle so no damage thank fook! I did the bottom end on my old RunX (while I didn't own it) in November

Interslice

The pipe broke up between the one and only silencer and my e30s m42 on the way to fonthill NCT at around 9 in the evening. Surprised they put it through the test at all. Some racket comeing on and off the ramps and rollers