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Riddled with Regret

  • 06-03-2018 12:23pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭


    Hi All
    I was hoping that i could get some assistance here. 
    In January i left a lovely office (lets call it  company A) where i knew lots and lots of people and had many friends . I had flexibility and a very good salary. 
    My head was turned by a recruiter and i accepted a position (Company B) for a much higher salary in a very small office even though i knew deep down that i would not like the position and it wouldn't suit me
    The second i walked into the office i knew i had made a mistake and fell into a deep depression. I also became very obsessed with surfing the web looking for a way out
    6 weeks after that i got offered a new position (Company C) on about 10k less than i made in my initial position and i jumped at it. Now i am in that position and i am just filled with regret. The team is nice and the people are friendly but i just cannot forgive myself for going back 10k in my salary and affecting my family negatively. I cry all the time and just cannot get to grips with it. Whats worse is that at the same time i accepted this position i got offered a new position with my original employer (Company A) but turned it down because the start date was in a few weeks and i felt that i just could not stay in the workplace where i hated for even another few weeks. 
    I feel like i have made huge mistakes and i cannot move forward. Our lives are negatively affected and we still have plenty to live on . My wife is ok about the whole thing, she thinks that i made a mistake but says  lets move on but i just cant....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,585 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    but says  lets move on but i just cant....

    So what's the alternative? If you can't move on what is the other option, just to sit and think about it all day? What's the point of that?

    I don't really get why you couldn't accept the offer from company A, you say you didn't want to remain in company B any longer but you could have just left B and sat at home for that few weeks, no?

    Regardless, the real issue is what you are doing now, and I can't at all see what wallowing in the misery is going to achieve except poison things in your current role.

    Your wife is right, it's done now and that's that. You either go back to company A and ask to return or you forget all that **** and start to make something good out of your current job. Those are the only sensible options, outside of that there is only useless wallowing that won't achieve a damn thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    I was afraid to wait around for the position in company B to start in case the job fell through and i was such a bag of nerves at the time that a few weeks at home would have been too difficult for me. I went back to them yesterday and they said the position is filled. 
    Every decision i make feels like a mistake and i am making my decisions on impatience rather than actually thinking through whats right for me. 
    I cant go back to company A at the moment as there are no sutiable positions, its a really big company though so something will probably pop up in the future
    But for now im just buried in depression and regret. Going to see a councillor tonight about the regret. Most of the money i dropped was in a bonus and not my basic salary but i still feel like i have gone backwards and just cant move on from it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭zapper55


    Ok this is a very strong reaction to what's happened, especially considering you can apply to company a again. I'm glad you are going to see a counsellor, might be useful to explore why you are reacting like this and maybe get some useful coping mechanisms such as cbt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    zapper55 wrote: »
    Ok this is a very strong reaction to what's happened,  especially considering you can apply to company a again. I'm glad you are going to see a counsellor,  might be useful to explore why you are reacting like this and maybe get some useful coping mechanisms such as cbt.
    Am i over reacting ? Please tell i am and normal people wouldn't react like this. All i can see is that my career is over and i will never be happy at work again. Anytime someone says anything in my new office about the company not being great then i almost break down in tears . I feel very low


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    My lovely 2 year old son has even said "dada sad again" and that was horrible to hear that


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    You've jumped three jobs in less than what....8 weeks?OP, give yourself a chance.It takes me a good 3-6 months to feel settled in one new job, never mind three.Go see your counsellor and clear your head.And take your wife's advice and be practical about it.All things considered, while it is stressful, there are worse things that could happen.You really need to give yourself time to adjust though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    shesty wrote: »
    You've jumped three jobs in less than what....8 weeks?OP, give yourself a chance.It takes me a good 3-6 months to feel settled in one new job, never mind three.Go see your counsellor and clear your head.And take your wife's advice and be practical about it.All things considered, while it is stressful, there are worse things that could happen.You really need to give yourself time to adjust though.
    Thanks . I know the first move was wrong for me , i knew that deep down i think before i ever started it because i only took it for the money. This place is better for sure and the team are nice etc but i just keep comparing it to Company A and the less money and difference in perks and the fact that i wasnt made redundant but i actually made the move of my own free will and i just cant accept that mistake that i have made. 
    I walked out of a top company and ended up in one with less of everything. I am afraid that i will have to spend 2 years here now to look ok on my cv and wont learn anything of note and not end up being able to get a better job ever again 
    Please tell me i am over reacting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Sounds like buyers regret.
    You've made a decision and are regretting it compared to the best of all the other options you could have chosen.
    I was reading a self help book recently and it talked about making no lose decisions. Basically not every decision has to be the perfect ones.
    It was focused on people who are wracked by indecision but i think its applicable here. Instead of berating yourself for the decisions you have made, congratulate yourself on your willingness to make them. Who knows what the future may bring. Either of the companies could go bust or double their employees salaries. You might make the best friends or enemies of your life in the new company. You're on a new path now to the one you were on. Don't ruin the ride by wallowing in regret.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭dellas1979


    You made a decision. What you felt was the best thing at the time.

    Youve got to take lesson from this, to make the whole scenario worthwhile, and to move on.

    Some suggestions and learnings might be: Maybe sit down and discuss with other people/friends/here next time. Take a few days to think about such decisions. Dont make decisions in haste. Youve realised work life happiness is more important than money. Your wife is understanding.

    Most of all, when you feel like youve been through a hard time, you should love yourself and take care of yourself even more, rather than beating yourself up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭dellas1979


    Please tell me i am over reacting

    You are. Also, talk to your councellor about why you are so focussed on your job/seems like its part of your identity/end of the world if it doesnt go your way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    thanks . It helps to hear someone say i am over reacting and things arent actually that bad. I feel like my whole world has ended , as you say im not sure why i feel that bad and need to investigate. I have been beating myself up so much over the past while and affecting my family too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    dellas1979 wrote: »

    Most of all, when you feel like youve been through a hard time, you should love yourself and take care of yourself even more, rather than beating yourself up.
    How do i do this ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭beefburrito


    Hi All
    I was hoping that i could get some assistance here. 
    In January i left a lovely office (lets call it  company A) where i knew lots and lots of people and had many friends . I had flexibility and a very good salary. 
    My head was turned by a recruiter and i accepted a position (Company B) for a much higher salary in a very small office even though i knew deep down that i would not like the position and it wouldn't suit me
    The second i walked into the office i knew i had made a mistake and fell into a deep depression. I also became very obsessed with surfing the web looking for a way out
    6 weeks after that i got offered a new position (Company C) on about 10k less than i made in my initial position and i jumped at it. Now i am in that position and i am just filled with regret. The team is nice and the people are friendly but i just cannot forgive myself for going back 10k in my salary and affecting my family negatively. I cry all the time and just cannot get to grips with it. Whats worse is that at the same time i accepted this position i got offered a new position with my original employer (Company A) but turned it down because the start date was in a few weeks and i felt that i just could not stay in the workplace where i hated for even another few weeks. 
    I feel like i have made huge mistakes and i cannot move forward. Our lives are negatively affected and we still have plenty to live on . My wife is ok about the whole thing, she thinks that i made a mistake but says  lets move on but i just cant....

    If your wife is supportive and accepts your decision you're a lucky man.

    It's understandable you have regrets, but the fact your wife is content and happy you're in a very good place.

    I know some guy's and women who'd be getting a right trashing for this.

    She's a good woman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭Malayalam


    If you got seriously ill you would have to deal with it.
    If a beloved person got ill or died you would have to deal with it.
    If your company went bust you would have to deal with it.
    If your house burned down and all your possessions evaporated you would have to deal with it.
    Put your job in perspective - it's not even in the big league of things in life. It sounds like you have enough money to be going on with, half the worlds population don't even have the guarantee of enough food.
    I suggest regular laughter - at yourself, your job, your conundrums, and with your family

    It's going to be fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    Hi All
    I was hoping that i could get some assistance here. 
    In January i left a lovely office (lets call it  company A) where i knew lots and lots of people and had many friends . I had flexibility and a very good salary. 
    My head was turned by a recruiter and i accepted a position (Company B) for a much higher salary in a very small office even though i knew deep down that i would not like the position and it wouldn't suit me
    The second i walked into the office i knew i had made a mistake and fell into a deep depression. I also became very obsessed with surfing the web looking for a way out
    6 weeks after that i got offered a new position (Company C) on about 10k less than i made in my initial position and i jumped at it. Now i am in that position and i am just filled with regret. The team is nice and the people are friendly but i just cannot forgive myself for going back 10k in my salary and affecting my family negatively. I cry all the time and just cannot get to grips with it. Whats worse is that at the same time i accepted this position i got offered a new position with my original employer (Company A) but turned it down because the start date was in a few weeks and i felt that i just could not stay in the workplace where i hated for even another few weeks. 
    I feel like i have made huge mistakes and i cannot move forward. Our lives are negatively affected and we still have plenty to live on . My wife is ok about the whole thing, she thinks that i made a mistake but says  lets move on but i just cant....

    If your wife is supportive and accepts your decision you're a lucky man.

    It's understandable you have regrets, but the fact your wife is content and happy you're in a very good place.

    I know some guy's and women who'd be getting a right trashing for this.

    She's a good woman.
    yes i agree completely, she is amazing. Especially with how i react to everything. Having said that i still make a good salary and our lives are not really affected as most of the reduced money is in the form of a bonus instead of salary. She also makes a decent salary so we are fine financially thankfully. I work in IT and she is a teacher
    Any advice on how to cope with the regret ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭beefburrito


    yes i agree completely, she is amazing. Especially with how i react to everything. Having said that i still make a good salary and our lives are not really affected as most of the reduced money is in the form of a bonus instead of salary. She also makes a decent salary so we are fine financially thankfully. I work in IT and she is a teacher
    Any advice on how to cope with the regret ?

    Just go out and buy yourself a new powertool or something to do with a hobby you like.

    You sound like a guy who needs to stop beating yourself up.

    If you find you're suffering from anxiety or depression your gp might suggest something to take the edge away, you're not alone buddy...

    You might be burnt out emotionally...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    Just go out and buy yourself a new powertool or something to do with a hobby you like.

    You sound like a guy who needs to stop beating yourself up.

    If you find you're suffering from anxiety or depression your gp might suggest something to take the edge away, you're not alone buddy...

    You might be burnt out emotionally...

    Yep lots of people are saying to stop being so hard on myself. Took anti depressants for a few days but didnt like this so stopped them. I am not as bad now as i was in the first job change - i couldnt even get out of bed then hardly and lost 1stone weight


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭beefburrito


    I've a friend on antidepressants, it took her a few weeks before they work, I'm in no position to be giving out medical advice

    But the best thing is to do what the doctor suggests.

    Those antidepressants are supposed to work really well, they make people think they're zombies or tired, the only reason is their system isn't used to the quite and the head stops racing.

    Then when you're feeling well,just you'll stop worrying so much and fill your time with the more important things.

    They're supposed to work with with psychotherapy.

    It's your own decision, I can't add anymore...

    I wish you luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Johnnyhpipe


    Tomorrow, phone company A. Be totally honest and say its just not working out here and that you would love to come back to work for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    Tomorrow, phone company A. Be totally honest and say its just not working out here and that you would love to come back to work for them.

    There are no available positions in thr group i was working in previously

    Another group in company A in a different building offered me a position but i was so impatient i had accepted thr offer from where i am now and turned them down because the start date was 6 weeks time.

    More regrets

    Awake since 4am and appetite gone. Loing weight again


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Most people would kill to be offered three jobs in the space of a few weeks. You're obviously very good at what you do and in high demand. There's no reason to think you won't get other offers soon. Have a bit of patience and do your current job to the best if your ability then take your time over your next move.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    Most people would kill to be offered three jobs in the space of a few weeks. You're obviously very good at what you do and in high demand. There's no reason to think you won't get other offers soon. Have a bit of patience and do your current job to the best if your ability then take your time over your next move.
    Thanks. I really suffer from lack of patience which can be an issue. Im not sure if i should keep looking now or just be patient and give this job time to settle into
    I dont even want to spend time with my wife and son now and i am telling my wife that we should sell our house and move closer to our original home. I went to a councellor last night and it was strange, she was an older lady, very nice but spoke really fast and the whole thing seemed  a bit disjointed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    You seem to think you can solve all of this straight away. You can't. Antidepressants take time. Counselling takes time. You sound like you're in a very bad place mentally and you need help. But you've got to be willing to meet it half way instead of throwing the options aside straight away because they're not fixing you on the spot.

    If your GP feels you need antidepressants for now, then work with him/her to find one that suits you. And give them time to work. Ask your GP how long you need to take them before they become effective.

    As for the counsellor, try a different one if you think this lady didn't do it for you. Though going by the way you're posting here, it could take a while to get through to you. You're all over the place, frantic, very wound up and deeply unhappy. I'm not sure how much any of us on this thread can help you, I'm afraid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,585 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Awake since 4am and appetite gone. Loing weight again
    I dont even want to spend time with my wife and son now and i am telling my wife that we should sell our house
    I feel like my whole world has ended
    I am not as bad now as i was in the first job change - i couldnt even get out of bed then hardly and lost 1stone weight

    I don't mean to be too harsh but it really seems like you are wallowing in the misery here, almost embracing it despite the original issue being something that is already done and dusted, and that relatively speaking wasn't that big a deal in the first place.

    Look at the quotes above and then compare them to this one:
    yes i agree completely, she is amazing. Especially with how i react to everything. Having said that i still make a good salary and our lives are not really affected as most of the reduced money is in the form of a bonus instead of salary. She also makes a decent salary so we are fine financially thankfully. I work in IT and she is a teacher
    Any advice on how to cope with the regret ?

    Its not cancer, you aren't redundant and out on the street, you haven't lost a child, you aren't getting bullied, you aren't getting abused, you aren't suffering through any of a hundred situations that would be far worse than what happened to you.

    You are wallowing in the misery and crying for help because you made a few poor work decisions, decisions that can't be changed now anyway no matter what you do. I honestly think you need a friend to give you a good shake and tell you to ****ing get on with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    You seem to think you can solve all of this straight away. You can't. Antidepressants take time. Counselling takes time. You sound like you're in a very bad place mentally and you need help. But you've got to be willing to meet it half way instead of throwing the options aside straight away because they're not fixing you on the spot.

    If your GP feels you need antidepressants for now, then work with him/her to find one that suits you. And give them time to work. Ask your GP how long you need to take them before they become effective.

    As for the counsellor, try a different one if you think this lady didn't do it for you. Though going by the way you're posting here, it could take a while to get through to you. You're all over the place, frantic, very wound up and deeply unhappy. I'm not sure how much any of us on this thread can help you, I'm afraid.
    This is spot on and i know it is. I went to a pyschologist twice . She said on the first night that it didnt sound like depression but obessional worry. That was spot on. But its 90 euro an hour and i stopped going. That why i tried a counsellor.
    Can anyone tell me i should continue with a pyschologist or a councellor ? Its so confusing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    Awake since 4am and appetite gone. Loing weight again
    I dont even want to spend time with my wife and son now and i am telling my wife that we should sell our house
    I feel like my whole world has ended
    I am not as bad now as i was in the first job change - i couldnt even get out of bed then hardly and lost 1stone weight

    I don't mean to be too harsh but it really seems like you are wallowing in the misery here, almost embracing it despite the original issue being something that is already done and dusted, and that relatively speaking wasn't that big a deal in the first place.

    Look at the quotes above and then compare them to this one:
    yes i agree completely, she is amazing. Especially with how i react to everything. Having said that i still make a good salary and our lives are not really affected as most of the reduced money is in the form of a bonus instead of salary. She also makes a decent salary so we are fine financially thankfully. I work in IT and she is a teacher
    Any advice on how to cope with the regret ?

    Its not cancer, you aren't redundant and out on the street, you haven't lost a child, you aren't getting bullied, you aren't getting abused, you aren't suffering through any of a hundred situations that would be far worse than what happened to you.

    You are wallowing in the misery and crying for help because you made a few poor work decisions, decisions that can't be changed now anyway no matter what you do. I honestly think you need a friend to give you a good shake and tell you to ****ing get on with it.
    I know you are right, i really do but my brain is just stuck and i cant move it onwards. I also agree that i am being selfish and embracing it some bit but i just dont know any other way ! How can i become less selfish ? how can i move my brain on from what has happened and accept it for being the small thing that it is....
    I want to get better but i really just dont know how.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    This is spot on and i know it is. I went to a pyschologist twice . She said on the first night that it didnt sound like depression but obessional worry. That was spot on. But its 90 euro an hour and i stopped going. That why i tried a counsellor.
    Can anyone tell me i should continue with a pyschologist or a councellor ? Its so confusing
    Ask your GP. Who referred you to the psychologist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    This is spot on and i know it is. I went to a pyschologist twice . She said on the first night that it didnt sound like depression but obessional worry. That was spot on. But its 90 euro an hour and i stopped going. That why i tried a counsellor.
    Can anyone tell me i should continue with a pyschologist or a councellor ? Its so confusing
    Ask your GP. Who referred you to the psychologist?
    no one , i just found one online.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Time to talk to your GP and find out who you need to see.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,771 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I recently had to choose between two jobs and can understand the what if’s. It’s really difficult. But once a decision is made and well considered you need to draw a line under it. It sounds like you are having difficulty with this. Something like cognitive behavioral therapy could really help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    fits wrote: »
    I recently had to choose between two jobs and can understand the what if’s. It’s really difficult. But once a decision is made and well considered you need to draw a line under it. It sounds like you are having difficulty with this. Something like cognitive behavioral therapy could really help.
    Well considered is the issue, i definetely didnt consider it enough.Should i see a pyschologist or a councellor ? ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    I'm sorry but none of us are qualified medical professionals who can advise you on this. Ask your GP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    I'm sorry but none of us are qualified medical professionals who can advise you on this. Ask your GP.
    I actually dont have one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    So who prescribed the antidepressants you decided you didn't want to take?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    So who prescribed the antidepressants you decided you didn't want to take?
    Sorry, that was a doctor in my local surgery but she has since left. I only went to see her once. I have made an appointment with another counsellor tonight


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    Malayalam wrote: »
    If you got seriously ill you would have to deal with it.
    If a beloved person got ill or died you would have to deal with it.
    If your company went bust you would have to deal with it.
    If your house burned down and all your possessions evaporated you would have to deal with it.
    Put your job in perspective - it's not even in the big league of things in life. It sounds like you have enough money to be going on with, half the worlds population don't even have the guarantee of enough food.
    I suggest regular laughter - at yourself, your job, your conundrums, and with your family

    It's going to be fine
    I agree but none of those things would be done by me voluntarily. This is the issue. I have put myself here of my own free will


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    You seem to think you can solve all of this straight away. You can't. Antidepressants take time. Counselling takes time. You sound like you're in a very bad place mentally and you need help. But you've got to be willing to meet it half way instead of throwing the options aside straight away because they're not fixing you on the spot.

    If your GP feels you need antidepressants for now, then work with him/her to find one that suits you. And give them time to work. Ask your GP how long you need to take them before they become effective.

    As for the counsellor, try a different one if you think this lady didn't do it for you. Though going by the way you're posting here, it could take a while to get through to you. You're all over the place, frantic, very wound up and deeply unhappy. I'm not sure how much any of us on this thread can help you, I'm afraid.
    Is it not rational to be all over the place ? I am down 10k per year plus some benefits ? I know we have enough money thankfully and my wife and son are fine but is this not a disaster that will ruin the rest of my career ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    No of course it's not a disaster. 
    I was a contractor in that sector for years, sometimes salary goes up, sometimes it goes down, them's the breaks. 
    You said you feel you have nothing to learn, well I tell you right now you do. You need to learn how to cope with change, because you clearly don't have that skill yet!

    Your future career will now have two decent companies on it instead of one. Good.
    You'll have a wider range of industry contacts. Good
    You'll learn more skills. Good.

    Mind yourself, do a good job where you are, concentrate on progression where you are, instead of grovelling back to the other crowd.

    Oh yeah, New motto, regret nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    pwurple wrote: »
    No of course it's not a disaster. 
    I was a contractor in that sector for years, sometimes salary goes up, sometimes it goes down, them's the breaks. 
    You said you feel you have nothing to learn, well I tell you right now you do. You need to learn how to cope with change, because you clearly don't have that skill yet!

    Your future career will now have two decent companies on it instead of one. Good.
    You'll have a wider range of industry contacts. Good
    You'll learn more skills. Good.

    Mind yourself, do a good job where you are, concentrate on progression where you are, instead of grovelling back to the other crowd.

    Oh yeah, New motto, regret nothing.
    I have never been able to deal with change, i think its because of the fact that i need to control stuff.  The place i am in now doesnt really have any progression opportunities whereas company A most certainly did and would be the biggest private IT company in the world with a major presence in Ireland
    So it certainly feels like a disaster
    Im on the verge of looking for new jobs again, is that panic ???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭dellas1979


    Self love? How?

    Sit still. And close your eyes. And breath in through your nose. And out through your mouth, and tell yourself everything will be ok. Youve got to change your mindset. This again takes time and practice.

    Be in just that moment. Slow things down. Clench a fist and dig your nail a little into your plam. Feel what that feels like. Rub your head, feel what that feels like. Be in that moment where you can feel something other than anxiety.

    And think about what you do have. And give thanks for what you do have. And give thanks to yourself for making that decision. Be kind to yourself. You did your best.

    If you keep repeating the above, it will come more naturally how to cope.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    pwurple wrote: »
    No of course it's not a disaster. 
    I was a contractor in that sector for years, sometimes salary goes up, sometimes it goes down, them's the breaks. 
    You said you feel you have nothing to learn, well I tell you right now you do. You need to learn how to cope with change, because you clearly don't have that skill yet!

    Your future career will now have two decent companies on it instead of one. Good.
    You'll have a wider range of industry contacts. Good
    You'll learn more skills. Good.

    Mind yourself, do a good job where you are, concentrate on progression where you are, instead of grovelling back to the other crowd.

    Oh yeah, New motto, regret nothing.
    I have never been able to deal with change, i think its because of the fact that i need to control stuff.  The place i am in now doesnt really have any progression opportunities whereas company A most certainly did and would be the biggest private IT company in the world with a major presence in Ireland
    So it certainly feels like a disaster
    Im on the verge of looking for new jobs again, is that panic ???
    Yes it is panic. And don't flip again for goodness sake. What would that get you? Same place again, more change, but now looking like a flight risk.  The industry is small. cool your jets for a few months.  Learn to deal with the change instead of running away. 
    Every job has progression, maybe not what you expect. Companies grow, you grow. Take on some study opportunities if the job is so easy peasy for you. Develop yourself. Do some running etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    pwurple wrote: »
    pwurple wrote: »
    No of course it's not a disaster. 
    I was a contractor in that sector for years, sometimes salary goes up, sometimes it goes down, them's the breaks. 
    You said you feel you have nothing to learn, well I tell you right now you do. You need to learn how to cope with change, because you clearly don't have that skill yet!

    Your future career will now have two decent companies on it instead of one. Good.
    You'll have a wider range of industry contacts. Good
    You'll learn more skills. Good.

    Mind yourself, do a good job where you are, concentrate on progression where you are, instead of grovelling back to the other crowd.

    Oh yeah, New motto, regret nothing.
    I have never been able to deal with change, i think its because of the fact that i need to control stuff.  The place i am in now doesnt really have any progression opportunities whereas company A most certainly did and would be the biggest private IT company in the world with a major presence in Ireland
    So it certainly feels like a disaster
    Im on the verge of looking for new jobs again, is that panic ???
    Yes it is panic. And don't flip again for goodness sake. What would that get you? Same place again, more change, but now looking like a flight risk.  The industry is small. cool your jets for a few months.  Learn to deal with the change instead of running away. 
    Every job has progression, maybe not what you expect. Companies grow, you grow. Take on some study opportunities if the job is so easy peasy for you. Develop yourself. Do some running etc.
    But every perk in this new company is worse than my original company, training / health care etc and thats what is killing me with regret. I wouldnt say the job is easy peasy at all, there is some stuff that i would learn alright. I had an interview lined up for tomorrow morning and just wasnt going to tell them about my first mistake and say their job is a dream job and thats why i was looking to apply (kind of would be a dream job but i suppose it could come around again)
    Would you still sit tight and learn to deal with the change ?

    BTW this isnt my first job change, i have had a good few positions but this is the first time that i have gone back in money and benefits to a company that just feels worse than my one in Company A so thats where the regret is coming from i think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    As an employer, if the 'perks' are your highest concern, I'd be less than impressed to be honest. That's not how you build a career. 
    If it's a better job in terms of experience etc... sure, but if the "dream job" is just one that comes with healthcare tacked on it's another story. 
    How are you going to explain your 3 different companies in a very short space of time in that interview? 

    Just think it through fully before making another jump.

    And feck regret. It's just part of your life story. We could all waste our time away to the grave thinking about things we would have done differently. You are where you are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    pwurple wrote: »
    As an employer, if the 'perks' are your highest concern, I'd be less than impressed to be honest. That's not how you build a career. 
    If it's a better job in terms of experience etc... sure, but if the "dream job" is just one that comes with healthcare tacked on it's another story. 
    How are you going to explain your 3 different companies in a very short space of time in that interview? 

    Just think it through fully before making another jump.

    And feck regret. It's just part of your life story. We could all waste our time away to the grave thinking about things we would have done differently. You are where you are.

    Im not going to mention the middle one. It was 6 weeks and not on my cv


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,585 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    What is jumping ship again going to achieve?

    You said you can't get over the regret of leaving the original job and the decisions made since, but moving yet again won't change what happened there, not in the slightest. Is it not just as likely that you will be sitting in company number 4 still feeling exactly the same regrets and the same anxieties, except now you have burned even more bridges and really gained a rep as a job hopper?

    Maybe the next company is offering you more money again, I don't now, but absent further details I can't see how moving yet again is the answer to a single thing you have said in this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    What is jumping ship again going to achieve?

    You said you can't get over the regret of leaving the original job and the decisions made since, but moving yet again won't change what happened there, not in the slightest. Is it not just as likely that you will be sitting in company number 4 still feeling exactly the same regrets and the same anxieties, except now you have burned even more bridges and really gained a rep as a job hopper?

    Maybe the next company is offering you more money again, I don't now, but absent further details I can't see how moving yet again is the answer to a single thing you have said in this thread.

    They might bring me closer to my salary at the original company or they might have a nicer building and better perks than my current company

    Thankfulky i have only burnt bridges in the company i was with for 6 weeks and they have a tiny presence in ireland and will never cross paths with the people there again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 MarleeAndMe


    Am i over reacting ? Please tell i am and normal people wouldn't react like this. All i can see is that my career is over and i will never be happy at work again. Anytime someone says anything in my new office about the company not being great then i almost break down in tears . I feel very low

    You possibly could be over reacting to the current situation but maybe you are because of another under lying issue you may not even be aware of. I’ve gone through something in my life that shouldn’t have bothered me in the slighted but I would get so angry and upset at the smallest thing when in actual fact after going to therapy I pieced the puzzle together. This might be a confusing answer but I hope it helps or gives a sense of relief..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    You possibly could be over reacting to the current situation but maybe you are because of another under lying issue you may not even be aware of. I’ve gone through something in my life that shouldn’t have bothered me in the slighted but I would get so angry and upset at the smallest thing when in actual fact after going to therapy I pieced the puzzle together. This might be a confusing answer but I hope it helps or gives a sense of relief..

    Yeah maybe. Went to councellor tonight who seemed good so will give it the 6 sessions to see how it goes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    you seem to make a lot of decisions in the heat, and then agonise over them after. I think for a while you should just do your job, your present job, and work on your emotional health. Go to your counsellor, try to let your brain switch off. Give time for whatever medication you are thinking of taking to work.

    Do you ever turn off your brain by switching on your body? Go running, lift some weights, whack a ball with a racquet. Do something where your brain gets to rest and your body takes over for a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    you seem to make a lot of decisions in the heat, and then agonise over them after.  I think for a while you should just do your job, your present job, and work on your emotional health.  Go to your counsellor, try to let your brain switch off.  Give time for whatever medication you are thinking of taking to work.

    Do you ever turn off your brain by switching on your body?  Go running, lift some weights, whack a ball with a racquet.  Do something where your brain gets to rest and your body takes over for a bit.
    yes im afraid that i do. I was crying on the way into work again this morning and at the desk. I just cannot get over the regret of what i have lost voluntarily. I feel everything is over and a waste of time now. Went to councellor last night and he reckons the meds are a last case resort. I have lots of support from my family which is the only thing getting me through this. I know this is a silly question but is this an over reaction ? If people could actually tell me it was a huge over reaction then maybe i could start to see sense ...

    I used go to the gym regularly and really enjoyed it but now i dont go as i cant face it


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