That time of year again.... P60 watch

evolving_doors

Soooo, anyone get theirs:D

I have a friend who's waiting on one for a mortgage application, that's the only hold up!

Did someone say here previously that a P21 would do?

dory

evolving_doors wrote: »

Soooo, anyone get theirs:D

I have a friend who's waiting on one for a mortgage application, that's the only hold up!

Did someone say here previously that a P21 would do?

I went in recently and they said a previous one would do as as a teacher there's never going to be a huge change. I got a letter in January from the department saying how much I earn, and that along with a previous P60 was grand for them.
That said, I'd love them to hurry the feic up so I can do a balancing statement.

r93kaey5p2izun

Received from ETB over a month ago.

evolving_doors

ETB's seem to be on normal employer schedule.

happywithlife

Overpaid a heap of tax last year so waiting on it too

ThePiedPiper

They seem to be getting worse every year. It’s unbelievably incompetent from a government department. I worked in practice as an accountant for 10 years, and always would have gotten them in on time, maybe 2,000-3,000 P35s over that time. How a government department consistently breaks the law in relation to timely filing of returns and gets away with it is beyond me. I’m especially annoyed this year as we’d be due tax back. I’ve tried ringing the department, but may as well be trying to open a safe with a jcb. Pointless.

evolving_doors

I read before they get fined by the Dept of Revenue for being late. Is this true?
I can't find the media report I read it in a few years ago.

ThePiedPiper

evolving_doors wrote: »

I read before they get fined by the Dept of Revenue for being late. Is this true?
I can't find the media report I read it in a few years ago.

Fines can be charged on late revenue returns, there can also be interest on liabilities. The ridiculous thing is that the p35 return for a heavily automated payroll system should be as simple as pressing a few buttons and putting the correct paper in the printer, it is not an overly difficult task.

happywithlife

Think I remember se3ing a figure before of 100k 're fine but can not find the article for the life of me. I was told it was an issue witrh the printers when I queried it last yr. Think it's from next year though that the whole system is changing and tax can be adjusted more easily payday to payday so no more waiting on a p60 to claim back

ThePiedPiper

I spoke to the Department payroll today, the p35 has been sent to the printers and will be issued before the end of the month. So, anything 4-6 weeks past the filing deadline.

smallgarden

Anyone non vec get theres yet?

evolving_doors

smallgarden wrote: »

Anyone non vec get theres yet?

Still holding my breath

Pang

I emailed ASTI again this year to complain about it. On the 13th of March, I received this reply from them:

We have received the below information today from the DES.

“We can confirm that the first batch of P60s will issue later this week and the rest will issue during the course of next week.”

Beaulieu

Pang wrote: »

I emailed ASTI again this year to complain about it. On the 13th of March, I received this reply from them:

We have received the below information today from the DES.

“We can confirm that the first batch of P60s will issue later this week and the rest will issue during the course of next week.”

Thank God for the ASTI -where would we be without them. Well worth that sub isn't it;)

Liberal_irony

Still no sign, anyone in the same boat?

smallgarden

Liberal_irony wrote: »

Still no sign, anyone in the same boat?

Nothing as yet

dg647

I got mine in the post today.

evolving_doors

Still holding breath

smallgarden

dg647 wrote: »

I got mine in the post today.

Me too

Cash_Q

Got mine in the post today too

MacGyver007

As did I

Ciano35

Same here

dory

How long now until they turn up online on our PAYE anytime? I need the details to be up there to get a balancing statement.

Cash_Q

dory wrote:

How long now until they turn up online on our PAYE anytime? I need the details to be up there to get a balancing statement.

You can log into Revenue online and enter the information yourself. If you click on 'enquiries' there is an option to create a Form 12 if I remember correctly from when I did it this morning. I know the balancing statement is a P21 but I think it said Form 12. It asks for total earnings/usc etc and if there's anything you're not sure on you can click 'more information' and a popup shows the area of the P60 to find the information they're seeking.

solerina

Finally, mine arrived yesterday.

evolving_doors

Got mine. Can exhale now.

Liberal_irony

Speak of the devil.. Arrived this morning at last

happywithlife

Still waiting on mine and checked revenue last night and nothing up there either:-(
So annoying. Need to do a p21 as I overpaid last year and want to use that money for home improvements over the Easter holidays

NufcNavan

Anyone now waiting for their P21? I entered my P60 details on Saturday and still nothing..

Liberal_irony

NufcNavan wrote: »

Anyone now waiting for their P21? I entered my P60 details on Saturday and still nothing..

Did mine Friday, money in Wednesday

Anahita

Liberal_irony wrote: »

Did mine Friday, money in Wednesday

I got a pop up saying it would take 2 days all going well. Entered mine and it's been about 5 days. Did you get any notification it would go in or did it just land in your bank account? Just wondering if it's worthwhile to keep checking the Revenue online website to see if the P21 is available to view online or just wait for the money to arrive?

Also, did you get a hardcopy in the post, too? Thanks for your reply!

km79

Anahita wrote: »

I got a pop up saying it would take 2 days all going well. Entered mine and it's been about 5 days. Did you get any notification it would go in or did it just land in your bank account? Just wondering if it's worthwhile to keep checking the Revenue online website to see if the P21 is available to view online or just wait for the money to arrive?

Also, did you get a hardcopy in the post, too? Thanks for your reply!

Did mine weds
P21 available online that evening
In bank Friday
Hard copy arrived today

They are very efficient that way in fairness
Got a few quid back too

evolving_doors

km79 wrote: »

Did mine weds
P21 available online that evening
In bank Friday
Hard copy arrived today

They are very efficient that way in fairness
Got a few quid back too

Yes Revenue are very good and courteous.

The dept of ed however.... last time I rang the lady sighed and scolded me "why couldn't you be on the post 2011 payscale, it'd make my life so much easier.?" This is after 10 minutes telling me that I wasn't entitled to allowances any more and it was all consolidated into 1 payscale and I was getting the exact same as someone pre 2011 on the new scale. Finally she had the cop on to say someone else would get back to me when I asked her how long I've been teaching!

Anahita

Not me,...got letter through the door today. Getting audited for health expenses. I'm not stressed because I have all my documentation and original receipts (from med/dental but also what the private health insurance did and didn't pay) so it's fine; it's more of an inconvenience...

Just letting people know...this is my 2nd time being audited...both times it's happened the same year I have submitted large healthcare costs (all genuine).

evolving_doors

Anahita wrote: »

Not me,...got letter through the door today. Getting audited for health expenses. I'm not stressed because I have all my documentation and original receipts (from med/dental but also what the private health insurance did and didn't pay) so it's fine; it's more of an inconvenience...

Just letting people know...this is my 2nd time being audited...both times it's happened the same year I have submitted large healthcare costs (all genuine).

Can't you scan them as you go and upload them to myaccount or do they want original documents?

km79

Anahita wrote: »

Not me,...got letter through the door today. Getting audited for health expenses. I'm not stressed because I have all my documentation and original receipts (from med/dental but also what the private health insurance did and didn't pay) so it's fine; it's more of an inconvenience...

Just letting people know...this is my 2nd time being audited...both times it's happened the same year I have submitted large healthcare costs (all genuine).

What did the audit consist of ?

mirrorwall14

Do they audit one year or multiple years?

Anahita

evolving_doors wrote: »

Can't you scan them as you go and upload them to myaccount or do they want original documents?

No they want all the originals but as I said I've been audited before so I know the drill. They will accept the copies because they know that you sent the original to the private health insurer (so it's always a good idea to keep a copy of the original before sending it to the private health insurer). So the document from the health insurer saying what they did and didn't cover and for how much is adequate for them but they ALSO need the copies.

In some cases I also have the originals as I got duplicate copies.

In my case, this happened to me before because my daughter got braces and I paid the 4k upfront in one year. This time it's happened because I paid 2.5k in one year in monthly instalments and the other half will be in next years taxes. Plus I had a large amount of weekly visits for a particular treatment that racked up a large amount.

Anahita

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

Do they audit one year or multiple years?

They only audited me for 2017 but I've been audited before in 2015. See previous post above.

Anahita

km79 wrote: »

What did the audit consist of ?

Sorry, I meant to say, you have 30 days to submit the original / evidence of expenditure. They send a letter with the name of the person handling your case.

km79

Anahita wrote: »

Sorry, I meant to say, you have 30 days to submit the original / evidence of expenditure. They send a letter with the name of the person handling your case.

So just an audit of the health expenses rather than a full audit of income and expenditure?
Now that would be stressful !

Anahita

km79 wrote: »

So just an audit of the health expenses rather than a full audit of income and expenditure?
Now that would be stressful !

Yes, just an audit of health expenses. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that! I'm rather muddled but thankfully meticulously organised when it comes to the record keeping for this task :eek:

I thought doing it on line might help but I am pretty sure it's just that there is a threshold (euro amount) and medical expenses above that amount for a family of a particular size or whatever metric they use sets up a flag and they send you this letter. Pain the arse but it's ok since I've kept all the docs. It does say they can retroactively request original receipts etc for 6 yrs so it's worth holding on to things.

Millem

I filled out the form 12 or whatever it’s called online. I reckon I underpaid PAYE but overpaid USC. All very complicated as was on maternity leave plus had 4 employers in total!
I also submitted €3/4k from my health expenses which were mainly from having my baby. Half expecting to be audited!!!

Does anyone get the preparatory payment for JC or LCA? My wasn’t on my account with revenue with SEC....it was a tiny amount but still thought it might be on as I defo overpaid USC on it.

NufcNavan

NufcNavan wrote: »

Anyone now waiting for their P21? I entered my P60 details on Saturday and still nothing..

Still waiting. Very frustrating.

Anahita

Millem wrote: »

I filled out the form 12 or whatever it’s called online. I reckon I underpaid PAYE but overpaid USC. All very complicated as was on maternity leave plus had 4 employers in total!
I also submitted €3/4k from my health expenses which were mainly from having my baby. Half expecting to be audited!!!

Does anyone get the preparatory payment for JC or LCA? My wasn’t on my account with revenue with SEC....it was a tiny amount but still thought it might be on as I defo overpaid USC on it.

I didn't receive any update nor was I able to view my P21 online. That was my hint (to myself) that there was a problem. Next thing you know, I got a letter about audit for health expenses through the door. There was nothing about it on the online service, just by post. FYI, a friend did NOT use the online receipt tracker on line but had the same sort of health expenditures as myself and you and also got an audit.

I know it's necessary to check up on people but you wonder if all this accountability is worth it when there are thousands of people working and making money and paying ZERO tax at all!

Millem

Anahita wrote: »

Millem wrote: »

I filled out the form 12 or whatever it’s called online. I reckon I underpaid PAYE but overpaid USC. All very complicated as was on maternity leave plus had 4 employers in total!
I also submitted €3/4k from my health expenses which were mainly from having my baby. Half expecting to be audited!!!

Does anyone get the preparatory payment for JC or LCA? My wasn’t on my account with revenue with SEC....it was a tiny amount but still thought it might be on as I defo overpaid USC on it.

I didn't receive any update nor was I able to view my P21 online. That was my hint (to myself) that there was a problem. Next thing you know, I got a letter about audit for health expenses through the door. There was nothing about it on the online service, just by post. FYI, a friend did NOT use the online receipt tracker on line but had the same sort of health expenditures as myself and you and also got an audit.

I know it's necessary to check up on people but you wonder if all this accountability is worth it when there are thousands of people working and making money and paying ZERO tax at all!

I got an email with a reference number, did you get that?

Millem

Sorry forgot to say...I didn’t press request a p21....do I press that or do they do that automatically when you fill in form 12?

Anahita

Millem wrote: »

Sorry forgot to say...I didn’t press request a p21....do I press that or do they do that automatically when you fill in form 12?

Yes, I did get an email with a reference number confirming that i had completed the process. I'm not sure if that happens to everyone or just people who are getting further investigation (auditing).

Anahita

Millem wrote: »

Sorry forgot to say...I didn’t press request a p21....do I press that or do they do that automatically when you fill in form 12?

Yes, once you add your pay info from your P60 and your health info (from tracker or manually) then it automatically will do your P21 within 2 days. In my case, that 2 days didn't arrive; the first notice I had that anything was amiss was the ltter in the post. I tried to log into revenue online and there was nothing on there to indicate I was being audited.

Millem

Anahita wrote: »

Millem wrote: »

Sorry forgot to say...I didn’t press request a p21....do I press that or do they do that automatically when you fill in form 12?

Yes, once you add your pay info from your P60 and your health info (from tracker or manually) then it automatically will do your P21 within 2 days. In my case, that 2 days didn't arrive; the first notice I had that anything was amiss was the ltter in the post. I tried to log into revenue online and there was nothing on there to indicate I was being audited.

still heard nothing! So I rang today....turns out I pressed the button to submit twice so it got stopped apparently! The lady I was speaking to said she would do it this afternoon she was so helpful. Fingers crossed it is ok!!

happywithlife

I rang too today - there was a mix up in mine and initially it was coming up as an underpayment running into the thousands which scared the bejasus outta me buy when she talked me through it I could spot the potential error. They're looking into it and it should be available online in 48 hours. Lovely lady to deal with but left praying it ends well. I know I overpaid on emergency tax from.sept to Nov so hoping I get something back but worried now in case there was some sort of error. I'll be repaying it for the next couple of years otherwise :-===