Should we stop bullying the United Kingdom?

jooksavage · 30-03-2018 9:00am

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Theresa May has accepted the backstop of the north being in alignment with us here - something she said no British PM could ever agree to only a few weeks a go.

Time to stop the bullying now? We don't want to be thought of as a nation of BULLIES telling others what to do surely even unstable nations like the UK?

Your loaded question implies that our government's postion (and the position of most of the Dail) amounts to bullying. It does not. If they adopted any other stance, they would be in dereliction of their responsibilities.

Defaming your country by characterising reasonable behaviour of our leaders as bullying is as daft as an Eton-eductaed millionaire and hereditary peer telling the UK working class to stand up against the establishment.

whisky_galore · 30-03-2018 9:02am

Ireland bullying the uk is like being savaged by a Jack Russell.

daheff · 30-03-2018 10:08am

People have long memories.They remember 800 years & the Black+Tans. There are generational grudges out there. For the most part people are willing to put these aside for the sake of peace in the north....... so any non violent way to get even over these grudges is bound to be taken.... but might be a bit much to call what Leo et al are doing as bullying. Surely its looking after the interests of the state?

paulbok · 30-03-2018 10:37am

daheff wrote: »

People have long memories.They remember 800 years & the Black+Tans. There are generational grudges out there. For the most part people are willing to put these aside for the sake of peace in the north....... so any non violent way to get even over these grudges is bound to be taken.... but might be a bit much to call what Leo et al are doing as bullying. Surely its looking after the interests of the state?

Exactly. And isn't the whole premise of Brexit the UK
Britain England London looking after their own interests?
Why is Ireland doing the same so unreasonable?

Odhinn · 30-03-2018 10:55am

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Theresa May has accepted the backstop of the north being in alignment with us here - something she said no British PM could ever agree to only a few weeks a go.

Time to stop the bullying now? We don't want to be thought of as a nation of BULLIES telling others what to do surely even unstable nations like the UK?

*cackle

steddyeddy · 30-03-2018 11:17am

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Theresa May has accepted the backstop of the north being in alignment with us here - something she said no British PM could ever agree to only a few weeks a go.

Time to stop the bullying now? We don't want to be thought of as a nation of BULLIES telling others what to do surely even unstable nations like the UK?

If it aint broke don't fix it. It's producing results and if some snowflakes want to call it bullying then so be it.

Capt'n Midnight · 31-03-2018 10:09pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

Ireland bullying the uk is like being savaged by a Jack Russell.

Except this Jack Russell is friends with a wolfhound.

Kermit.de.frog · 01-04-2018 2:10am

Bit OT but saw this graphic...

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Brexit refugees?

whisky_galore · 01-04-2018 7:38am

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Except this Jack Russell is friends with a wolfhound.

As if this 'wolfhound' gives a flying fcuk about us.

viclemronny · 01-04-2018 9:10am

doolox wrote: »

The UK are responsible for 45% of our foreign trade and we cannot afford to lose that.

It's less than 20%, according to the CSO.

Zebra3 · 01-04-2018 9:19am

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Bit OT but saw this graphic...

Brexit refugees?

That’ll be all the sprogs from the poxy weather.

Capt'n Midnight · 01-04-2018 11:05am

viclemronny wrote: »

It's less than 20%, according to the CSO.

A lot of stuff is trans-shipped through the UK rather than being made there.
There's a lot of UK middlemen and companies with UK regional headquarters that sell on stuff produced elsewhere in the EU. Post Brexit we'd still import Cadbury's chocolate from Poland. There are lots of UK brands now owned by multinationals like Weetabix and McVities.

The worlds biggest car ferry is now on the Dublin - Belgium route with 8Km of vehicle lanes on board - 5 miles in old money. And there's another on the way. There are also new ferries being built for the France route, with 3Km (2 miles) of vehicle lanes. The new Cork - Santander route starts next month.

Meanwhile in Wales they may not be able to keep all the ports open
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-43514165

Mr Martineau feared less freight "could close the port", as there may not be enough business for docks at both Pembroke Dock and Fishguard to operate.

badtoro · 01-04-2018 11:25am

Shake them by their ankles and steal their lunch money.

bear1 · 01-04-2018 11:58am

So unless in 1 year the UK offers another solution which is accepted by the eu and Ireland then the new border will be down the Irish sea?
I suspect the dup will collapse the government before that happens.
Worst thing may ever did was let that pack of pricks prop up her government as a tune of a billion pounds.

tayto lover · 01-04-2018 12:03pm

We should expel a few of their diplomats just to wind them up a bit more.

indioblack · 01-04-2018 12:50pm

daheff wrote: »

People have long memories.They remember 800 years...

I can't remember that far back - I'm not that old.

Kermit.de.frog · 15-05-2018 12:18am

Stop BRIT BASHING, Coveney

DUP MP Sammy Wilson accuses Coveney of being 'belligerent, interfering and a Brit basher'

Jacob Rees Mogg is making a stand

If the Irish Government obliges us to choose between the Republic and the Union, then we will choose the Union

riffmongous · 15-05-2018 12:57am

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Stop BRIT BASHING, Coveney

DUP MP Sammy Wilson accuses Coveney of being 'belligerent, interfering and a Brit basher'

Jacob Rees Mogg is making a stand

If the Irish Government obliges us to choose between the Republic and the Union, then we will choose the Union

It's impossible to take that Rees Mogg man seriously, he just seems like a WUM pretending to be a toff

zapitastas · 15-05-2018 1:07am

riffmongous wrote: »

It's impossible to take that Rees Mogg man seriously, he just seems like a WUM pretending to be a toff

The people behind the comic the beano sent a cease-and-desist letter to Jacob Rees-Mogg asking him to stop impersonating their character Walter Brown, Aka Walter the Softy, the next-door neighbor of Dennis the Menace. They said it is a clear breach of their copyright and lists attributes in common like his hairstyle, glasses, bullish behaviour and snootiness.

aidan24326 · 15-05-2018 2:06am

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Stop BRIT BASHING, Coveney

DUP MP Sammy Wilson accuses Coveney of being 'belligerent, interfering and a Brit basher'

Jacob Rees Mogg is making a stand

If the Irish Government obliges us to choose between the Republic and the Union, then we will choose the Union

I find it strange and a bit amusing that the Unionists in NI swear undying allegiance to a crown and a country that doesn't give a toss about them. Not so much as a dying fiddler's fart of a toss. It's like pledging undying love to a girl who thinks you're a stinking arsehole and wouldn't sleep with you if you were the last man on earth. And yet they delude themselves...

15-05-2018 2:57am

aidan24326 wrote: »

I find it strange and a bit amusing that the Unionists in NI swear undying allegiance to a crown and a country that doesn't give a toss about them. Not so much as a dying fiddler's fart of a toss. It's like pledging undying love to a girl who thinks you're a stinking arsehole and wouldn't sleep with you if you were the last man on earth. And yet they delude themselves...

I have to admit, I laugh at that as well. Northern Ireland are the nice guys of international politics.

Kermit.de.frog · 03-06-2018 12:59am

Ireland gives Britain two weeks to produce Brexit border proposals

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-ireland/ireland-gives-britain-two-weeks-to-produce-brexit-border-proposals-idUSKCN1IY082?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5b129e3804d3015f4dd7fa35&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Could you imagine if Churchill was alive to see headline like that :pac: Disgraceful carry on.

https://twitter.com/toryboypierce/status/1002664598263226368

Didn't Ireland offer to repay UK in full last year but was rejected by UK? This seems to be getting traction with the Brextremists though...

OldMrBrennan83 · 03-06-2018 1:04am

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Lucy8080 · 03-06-2018 3:15am

Aegir wrote: »

you need to read the Belfast Agreement more closely. NI and Scotland can only become independent from the UK if it is voted for by Parliament, because Parliament is sovereign.

That is the constitutional way.

Might be wrong here, but I was under the impression that sovereignty in the U.K. belongs solely to the Queen.

Parliament is "Her Majesty's" government. "Her people" are subjects. Unlike a republic, where the people are sovereign.

deco nate · 03-06-2018 3:40am

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Ireland gives Britain two weeks to produce Brexit border proposals

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-ireland/ireland-gives-britain-two-weeks-to-produce-brexit-border-proposals-idUSKCN1IY082?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5b129e3804d3015f4dd7fa35&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Could you imagine if Churchill was alive to see headline like that :pac: Disgraceful carry on.

https://twitter.com/toryboypierce/status/1002664598263226368

Didn't Ireland offer to repay UK in full last year but was rejected by UK? This seems to be getting traction with the Brextremists though...

Did we, how do we have the money to pay them off all of a sudden? And why would they reject it?

deco nate · 03-06-2018 3:42am

Patww79 wrote: »

Could start getting dangerous over there for Irish. The rest tops basically control what most of their public thinks and they'll push this hard.

Could get dangerous for the Irish over there?!
Bull**** of the highest order post

Edit:i assume you mean the red tops as in papers, you really should give the to English more respect than reading the red tops...

Phoebas · 03-06-2018 7:35am

deco nate wrote: »

Did we, how do we have the money to pay them off all of a sudden? And why would they reject it?

We're paying 2.6% on that loan which is a lot more than our current cost of borrowing.
We could quite easily refinance it and save hundreds of millions in interest payments.

That's also the reason that the UK would reject it being paid off early. At the time the loan was granted, 2.6% represented the UKs cost of borrowing, but now that's a great rate of return for them.

03-06-2018 7:38am

Lucy8080 wrote: »

Might be wrong here, but I was under the impression that sovereignty in the U.K. belongs solely to the Queen.

Parliament is "Her Majesty's" government. "Her people" are subjects. Unlike a republic, where the people are sovereign.

You are wrong, yes. Parliament is sovereign and the British people are not subjects.

listermint · 03-06-2018 7:48am

deco nate wrote: »

Did we, how do we have the money to pay them off all of a sudden? And why would they reject it?

They're making a nice little interest earner , so basically they are not being cool in allowing us pay back quicker. Friends..... Yea when it suits.

listermint · 03-06-2018 7:49am

deco nate wrote: »

Could get dangerous for the Irish over there?!
Bull**** of the highest order post

Edit:i assume you mean the red tops as in papers, you really should give the to English more respect than reading the red tops...

You may be missing something here but the red tops are what pushed the referendum over the line.

Should we stop bullying the United Kingdom?

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