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Dublin receive millions more than any other county in development grants

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    That and their population, money, play every game at home, food delivered to their houses, money, sponsorship, money, GPO’s, super clubs, money, coaching structures, money, hard work, talent, exceptional coach and back room team, money. This has been done to death at this stage. Is that you Spewan😂


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    ArielAtom wrote: »
    That and their population, money, play every game at home, food delivered to their houses, money, sponsorship, money, GPO’s, super clubs, money, coaching structures, money, hard work, talent, exceptional coach and back room team, money. This has been done to death at this stage. Is that you Spewan😂

    That all appears to be true, but no harm to notice on a monthly basis that it's still going on and on and on and on and on, and I noticed you mentioned money 5 times. That's about the right proportion :D

    Have to ask, who's SpewanðŸ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    the worrying thing should be Westmeath getting €153,000 in games development funding
    or Louth at €241,000
    Wicklow €231,000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Look at the team expenses column.

    You'd be better off bribing refs or buying steel GPS's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Mayo 370k for team expenses? Thats a shocking amount of strippers n brazzers for runners up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,241 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    Oldtree wrote: »
    As if we didn't know ;)
    gotta shake the head at the amount though.

    Mayo ranks 26th on the list! Better hope we dont get a fair share in the coming years :P

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    Article also had the very interesting payments to year end 31/10/2017, Mayo 6th on this list, more than a million behind Dublin!

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    https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/dublin-receive-e15-million-more-than-any-other-county-in-games-development-grants-over-the-last-decade-149534

    Has anyone any other figures to throw into the mix?

    Maybe you people should try paying the skyhigh property taxes that Dubs have to put up with before you start demanding more grants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,965 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    ZeroThreat wrote: »
    Maybe you people should try paying the skyhigh property taxes that Dubs have to put up with before you start demanding more grants.

    What's that got to do with anything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Hoboo wrote: »
    Mayo 370k for team expenses? Thats a shocking amount of strippers n brazzers for runners up.


    And all on the senior football team more or less. Whereas other counties like Dublin and Galway and Cork have viable teams in both sports at all levels.

    No wonder they never fkn win anything. Except whinging competitions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Poor Mayo- is there any factor not working against them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    kippy wrote: »
    What's that got to do with anything?


    Look at the total outlay column. Cork got the biggest share last year presumably on basis that they have most clubs and members, not Dublin which has second most.

    This is just more whining to evade the fact that reason Dublin beat Mayo is that they are a better team

    Its not rocket science. Nor to do with money which in any event favours the Mayo senior footballers. What do they spend it on? Hair stylists :)

    Mayo also have one of the lowest spends on games development. Well, I suppose they wouldn't want to be taking money from the prima donnas ........ and their hair dressers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,965 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Look at the total outlay column. Cork got the biggest share last year presumably on basis that they have most clubs and members, not Dublin which has second most.

    This is just more whining to evade the fact that reason Dublin beat Mayo is that they are a better team

    Its not rocket science. Nor to do with money which in any event favours the Mayo senior footballers. What do they spend it on? Hair stylists :)

    Mayo also have one of the lowest spends on games development. Well, I suppose they wouldn't want to be taking money from the prima donnas ........ and their hair dressers.

    What's property tax got to do with it though?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Hoboo wrote: »
    Mayo 370k for team expenses? Thats a shocking amount of strippers n brazzers for runners up.

    how many players in Dublin have to drive to Mayo for training? that's 3 hours. and games too.
    if there are 10 players doing that every week that is a lot of mileage expenses over a season.

    Dublin players even get a free car, so they don't have to worry about it.

    The Roscommon panel are currently running their own last man standing competition with the public just to pay for a training weekend somewhere.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Look at the total outlay column. Cork got the biggest share last year presumably on basis that they have most clubs and members, not Dublin which has second most.

    This is just more whining to evade the fact that reason Dublin beat Mayo is that they are a better team

    Its not rocket science. Nor to do with money which in any event favours the Mayo senior footballers. What do they spend it on? Hair stylists :)

    Mayo also have one of the lowest spends on games development. Well, I suppose they wouldn't want to be taking money from the prima donnas ........ and their hair dressers.

    That outlay figure for Cork was primarily funding for Pairc Ui Chaoimh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,865 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    how many players in Dublin have to drive to Mayo for training? that's 3 hours. and games too.
    if there are 10 players doing that every week that is a lot of mileage expenses over a season.

    Dublin players even get a free car, so they don't have to worry about it.

    The Roscommon panel are currently running their own last man standing competition with the public just to pay for a training weekend somewhere.

    Roscommon invested in a bus when they didn't even have a pitch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Roscommon invested in a bus when they didn't even have a pitch.
    it didn't cost them a cent
    look it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Except whinging competitions.

    I'm don't think you can call a statement of fact as whinging. To misconstrue my post as such, implies that you deeply afraid of a level playing field! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    It's 15 men against 15 men. Despite Mayo's significant advantage in the money spent on the senior footballers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    It's 15 men against 15 men. Despite Mayo's significant advantage in the money spent on the senior footballers.

    You've forgotten about the free cars.... Again :p
    Subaru will provide vehicles to the players and management of the Dublin senior football and hurling teams.

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    http://www.subaru.ie/subaru-life/gaa-partner.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    it didn't cost them a cent
    look it up.

    And neither did all the nice Subaru’s 😉 it’s called sponsorship


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Oldtree wrote: »
    You've forgotten about the free cars.... Again :p



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    http://www.subaru.ie/subaru-life/gaa-partner.html


    I've honestly never seen a player drive a car around a football pitch :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    I've honestly never seen a player drive a car around a football pitch :)

    I've got to be honest here and say neither have I :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    Looks like the money thing has struck a nerve with Bonniedog. Of course Dublin were the better team . Not by much, but they were the better team. In fact, as we know they are better than every team. And a huge reason for it is the money that was pumped into developing Dublin football. It’s not a crime, so you don’t need to deny it. Good for them that they seemed to have used that money wisely. About the car/perks issue. Your comment about never seen a car been driven around a football pitch is just deflective and shows the defensiveness. If you had actually thought about it for a second, you would realise that it’s a lot easier for a human being to push themselves to their limits if there is a reward at the end of it.

    Dublin player: “It’s not great training in the snow and sleet, but at least I could get a car and other sponsorship perks from this if I push myself”
    Westmeath player (also can apply to about 28 other counties): “God, this is torture, and what do I get out of it. Not going to win Leinster, because of the money machine obstacle. With low morale not going to get far in qualifiers (after a possible drubbing by Dublin somewhere along the line). What’s the point in all the sacrifices”.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    So the difference between Dublin and Westmeath is that Dublin players might get a car?

    I am intrigued by your ideas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    So which one of the posters is Ewan?:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    kilns wrote: »
    So which one of the posters is Ewan?:D

    Who's Ewan? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    He gets paid per click for his click bait articles so maybe coming on to boards is not worthwhile for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    So the difference between Dublin and Westmeath is that Dublin players might get a car?

    I am intrigued by your ideas.

    I don't think its just the about the car. Having had a look at the official Dublin GAA sponsors, it appears that a dublin player gets the free car to pick yer on up on a saturday night, a lovely free restaurant to take yer one out too, followed by a rather nice free hotel room (official sleeping partner :) ) to take yer one back too afterwards. No other county gets this level of commitment from sponsors. Its no wonder the Dublin players try so hard and push themselves to their limits. :D

    https://www.dublingaa.ie/partners


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Oldtree wrote: »
    Who's Ewan? :p
    kilns wrote: »
    He gets paid per click for his click bait articles so maybe coming on to boards is not worthwhile for him

    :D .. in no particular order his latest clickbaits were along the lines of

    1. Pauric Duffy created a financially doped Dublin
    2. Rugby is an elitest sport that most in Ireland can't relate to or participate in
    3. It's our own fault that we have drugs cheats
    4. Women don't deserve the same pay as men in sport as they aren't as good

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    :D .. in no particular order his latest clickbaits were along the lines of

    1. Pauric Duffy created a financially doped Dublin
    2. Rugby is an elitest sport that most in Ireland can't relate to or participate in
    3. It's our own fault that we have drugs cheats
    4. Women don't deserve the same pay as men in sport as they aren't as good

    Who's Pauric Duffy :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    There is quite an interesting discussion to be had, if not a few of them, around this topic.
    Future direction of the gaa.
    Financial doping and what constitutes it.
    Are Dublin actually performing well, or in fact underperforming.
    What is the optimum model for gaa intercounty teams.
    etc

    But we are never allowed to have them, because people just attack the county of the poster all the time.

    As for the guy on about property tax - simple fix - sell your house and move to the country. You can get a similar house for a fraction of the price, then retire on the proceeds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    :D .. in no particular order his latest clickbaits were along the lines of

    1. Pauric Duffy created a financially doped Dublin
    2. Rugby is an elitest sport that most in Ireland can't relate to or participate in
    3. It's our own fault that we have drugs cheats
    4. Women don't deserve the same pay as men in sport as they aren't as good


    In fairness, there is truth in point 1 and 3.
    Point 2 is a reality for a certain percentage of the country, although not all.
    While point 4 is an interesting topic, well in his article, not so much in your selective description.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 670 ✭✭✭sightband


    In a nutshell, Dublin has the highest amount of registered players, that coupled with the overheads associated with any aspect of the game in Dublin are colossal in comparison to any other county. County grant distribution is worked out meticulously by the GAA and is distributed evenly based upon on the above influencing factors. There is no financial doping, Mayo are just shįte.

    You’re welcome, you can close the tread now.

    *takes a bow*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    sightband wrote: »
    In a nutshell, Dublin has the highest amount of registered players, that coupled with the overheads associated with any aspect of the game in Dublin are colossal in comparison to any other county. County grant distribution is worked out meticulously by the GAA and is distributed evenly based upon on the above influencing factors. There is no financial doping, Mayo are just shįte.

    You’re welcome, you can close the tread now.

    *takes a bow*

    A team that takes Dublin to its limits (and not just once) is ****e???

    You're not saying a whole lot about the Dublin team then are you. Careful you don't bow too low and find your head up you own "where the sun don't shine" :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    sightband wrote: »
    In a nutshell, Dublin has the highest amount of registered players, that coupled with the overheads associated with any aspect of the game in Dublin are colossal in comparison to any other county. County grant distribution is worked out meticulously by the GAA and is distributed evenly based upon on the above influencing factors. There is no financial doping, Mayo are just shįte.

    You’re welcome, you can close the tread now.

    *takes a bow*

    Not accurate at all. Dublin get multiples per registered player from the gaa than every other county.
    Are you suggesting that the average Dublin youngster needs circa 10 times the investment put into him to reach the same level as a young lad from down the country, and that this is an overhead? Not sure the dub posters would agree with that, or myself for that matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Jaden


    As for the guy on about property tax - simple fix - sell your house and move to the country. You can get a similar house for a fraction of the price, then retire on the proceeds.

    The flip side to this, is of course, if you can't win an all Ireland living rurally, sell your house, move to Dublin, and Play For/Support the Dubs. Be happy.

    Of course this won't fix the innate issues with the GAA as a whole, but I often wonder are enough people really that bothered to attempt to do this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    ............
    While point 4 is an interesting topic, well in his article, not so much in your selective description.

    I don't read his articles


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    Jaden wrote: »
    The flip side to this, is of course, if you can't win an all Ireland living rurally, sell your house, move to Dublin, and Play For/Support the Dubs. Be happy.

    Of course this won't fix the innate issues with the GAA as a whole, but I often wonder are enough people really that bothered to attempt to do this?

    Not really. Moving to another county doesn't change your home county. Would you support meath if you were living in meath?

    I don't think someone would be bothered enough to do it in your example, but someone discussing the level of property tax they have to pay could well be.

    DoctaDee wrote: »
    I don't read his articles

    Yet you consider yourself qualified to comment on them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    ............

    Yet you consider yourself qualified to comment on them?

    I commented on the clickbait headline, not on the article


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Jaden


    Not really. Moving to another county doesn't change your home county.

    True, but affiliations can change, not that they have to, but they can.

    Don't like high property prices? Don't live in Dublin.
    Don't like not winning Sam? Start supporting Dublin.

    Both of those seem reasonable approaches to me. YMMV


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    I commented on the clickbait headline, not on the article

    Well not really, you have asserted that he says women are 'not as good' as men, yet this doesn't appear in the headline.

    As for 'clickbait', what makes them as such in particular? To me they seem to be normal articles for newspaper headlines on the internet. I would have considered clickbait to be misleading headlines bringing you to topics that aren't as they were represented. However he makes his case as stated in the headline. That isn't clickbait, it's an article.

    You just seem at pains to discredit the articles and indeed the man himself, yet you admit not to having read his work. Why would you do that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    Jaden wrote: »
    True, but affiliations can change, not that they have to, but they can.

    Don't like high property prices? Don't live in Dublin.
    Don't like not winning Sam? Start supporting Dublin.

    Both of those seem reasonable approaches to me. YMMV

    How can they change? I don't see it myself. Maybe you could take us through it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Jaden


    How can they change? I don't see it myself. Maybe you could take us through it?

    You have suggested moving if you don't like the price of housing. I am agreeing with this as a valid approach to the problem.

    By extension, if someone wants to know what it feels like to support an All Ireland winning team, then ditch whatever County team is the source of your disappointment, and start supporting the Dubs. You will of course be welcomed by your fellow Dublin fans. Problem solved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    Jaden wrote: »
    You have suggested moving if you don't like the price of housing. I am agreeing with this as a valid approach to the problem.

    By extension, if someone wants to know what it feels like to support an All Ireland winning team, then ditch whatever County team is the source of your disappointment, and start supporting the Dubs. You will of course be welcomed by your fellow Dublin fans. Problem solved.

    So you are saying that if meath started winning all Irelands, you would just start supporting meath?

    The main difference is there in no tangible cost to your team not winning, only some level of disappointment. If your team wins every all ireland or never wins one, you don't gain or lose a penny. Whereas if you cant afford to pay the property tax, obviously that cannot continue to stay there can you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    So once again the usual suspect wade in😂 So Spewan, which one are you?
    Enjoy the bitchfest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭EICVD


    Oldtree wrote: »
    I don't think its just the about the car. Having had a look at the official Dublin GAA sponsors, it appears that a dublin player gets the free car to pick yer on up on a saturday night, a lovely free restaurant to take yer one out too, followed by a rather nice free hotel room (official sleeping partner :) ) to take yer one back too afterwards. No other county gets this level of commitment from sponsors. Its no wonder the Dublin players try so hard and push themselves to their limits. :D

    https://www.dublingaa.ie/partners

    How unusual is that, a really successful team having a myriad of well known brands offering sponsorship, must be a worldwide first......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭EICVD


    kilns wrote: »
    So which one of the posters is Ewan?:D

    I’m guessing MayoareMagic.......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Its typical deflection by Dublin GAA people
    don't debate the issue

    the financial imbalance in the association is going to ruin the special status of the GAA in most of Ireland

    the GAA always had a level playing field (more or less for every county)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭munster87


    Jaden wrote: »
    True, but affiliations can change, not that they have to, but they can.

    Don't like high property prices? Don't live in Dublin.
    Don't like not winning Sam? Start supporting Dublin.

    Both of those seem reasonable approaches to me. YMMV

    Did you support Kerry or Tyrone in the 2000s or did you just rotate between them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,677 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    Its typical deflection by Dublin GAA people
    don't debate the issue

    the financial imbalance in the association is going to ruin the special status of the GAA in most of Ireland

    the GAA always had a level playing field (more or less for every county)

    Yawn, done to death many times already.

    Dublin spend the money from the GAA on youth development, giving kids from many different backgrounds the opportunity to play the great games of football and hurling.

    Counties like Mayo spend the money from the GAA on warm weather training camps, expenses, and other subsidies purely for the senior football team. No wonder they fall short.

    Great to see all the begrudgers out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭TrueGael


    Dublin spend the money from the GAA on youth development, giving kids from many different backgrounds the opportunity to play the great games of football and hurling.

    You see this allows the AIG money (and all the other sponsors money) fund a professional IC Setup, nobody else has the luxury of world class coaching (paid for by GAA) allied to world class facilities already in Dublin which creates a production line of superstar players

    A normal county like Mayo can't do both - they have to choose do we back our best ever Senior team 100% or do we hamstring them in competing against the Blue Juggernaut in trying to improve their underage structures


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