Croatian man shot dead whilst on a South Africa Lion trophy hunt

SharpshooterTom

Pero Jelinic, 75, was hit by a bullet on Saturday at Leeubosch Lodge farm, about 355km (221 miles) west of Johannesburg, police said.

"At this stage it is not clear who fired the fatal shot that killed Mr Jelinic," a police spokeswoman said.

One of Mr Jelinic's hunting friends said it had been an accident but police have opened a culpable homicide case.

They say Mr Jelinic was shot after the hunters had already killed one lion and were tracking a second.

The injured man was airlifted to hospital but died shortly afterwards.

Police are also investigating whether the hunters had illegal guns while hunting lions bred in captivity, police spokeswoman Charlize van der Linden told news24 website.

The death of Pero Jelinic was first reported over the weekend but his hunting friend later gave more details to Croatian media about what had allegedly transpired on Saturday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42878351

Already had killed one Lion in captivity but was gunned down whilst in the middle of attempting to kill another Lion.

Tragic for his friends and family, but it's hard to have too much sympathy for a guy who took pleasure out of killing wild exotic animals as a "sport".

J. Marston

MissShihTzu

Good! Serves him right. It's a shame he wasn't mauled by the lions. No sympathy.

vicwatson

Ha! The Loins fight back

Ursummupet

vicwatson wrote: »

Ha! The Loins fight back

He died happy so.

The_Valeyard

J. Marston wrote: »

I know i shouldnt laugh at that because a man has died, but still it was funny.

lawred2

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I know i shouldnt laugh at that because a man has died, but still it was funny.

Why not laugh? The image is funny, you didn't know him and he died being a selfish prick

good enough for him

Birneybau

Fcuk him, law of the jungle.

rizzles

bluewolf wrote: »

good enough for him

croatians are the most unpopular refugees in my country
they are responsible for low level crime
and bring the attention of the authorities on locals original crime-boss

muppetshow1451

rizzles wrote: »

croatians are the most unpopular refugees in my country
they are responsible for low level crime
and bring the attention of the authorities on locals original crime-boss

What about the rest of the 5000 criminal gangs in sweden?Are they all croations?

kneemos

Interesting docu on last night about these big game hunters. Poachers are the real enemy here and do massive damage,the companies that cater for these guys to go and shoot an animal are essentially conservationists.

If you're not a vegan than your a hypocrite saying he deserved this

Noveight

Live by the sword, die by the sword an' all that.

Klinkhammer

kneemos wrote: »

Interesting docu on last night about these big game hunters. Poachers are the real enemy here and do massive damage,the companies that cater for these guys to go and shoot an animal are essentially conservationists.

That might be true but there's no sport in shooting a captive animal.

B.A._Baracus

Never got the whole no sympathy thing with things like this.

Killing an animal for sport... Breeding animals to be slaughtered and eaten... What's the difference we're the animals if you wanna get technical.

kneemos

Klinkhammer wrote: »

That might be true but there's no sport in shooting a captive animal.

Some people enjoy it. As I said these folk are protecting big game species.

JenovaProject

Cookie_Monster

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Killing an animal for sport... Breeding animals to be slaughtered and eaten... What's the difference we're the animals if you wanna get technical.

if you honestly can't see the difference between farming cattle and hunting endangered wildlife for sport I think you probably have significant morality issues.

Klinkhammer

kneemos wrote: »

Some people enjoy it. As I said these folk are protecting big game species.

They might be on the face of it but they're probably not.

"In South Africa, which has some 2,000 wild lions, canned lion hunting has grown into a more than $100 million industry, with in excess of 200 facilities raising about 6,000 of the big cats for easy killing. According to Ian Michler, a South African safari operator and photographer who investigated the canned lion industry for the 2015 documentary Blood Lions, the animals are caged and bred sometimes under terrible conditions. The young are taken from their mothers and brought to petting zoos. When male lions grow into adulthood, many are shot and killed for “hunting” fees that are much lower than the cost for a wild lion on a standard 21-day hunt ($5,000 to $15,000, versus $50,000 and up). And the trophy is virtually guaranteed."

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/10/trophy-hunting-killing-saving-animals/

The money from these hunts isn't substantial enough for them to treat their animals properly nevermind contribute to conservation.

Anyway, shooting what basically amounts to a caged animal is a dog act.

Cookie_Monster

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

if you honestly can't see the difference between farming cattle and hunting endangered wildlife for sport I think you probably have significant morality issues.

Yeah I agree, battery farming is far worse

kneemos

Klinkhammer wrote: »

They might be on the face of it but they're probably not.

"In South Africa, which has some 2,000 wild lions, canned lion hunting has grown into a more than $100 million industry, with in excess of 200 facilities raising about 6,000 of the big cats for easy killing. According to Ian Michler, a South African safari operator and photographer who investigated the canned lion industry for the 2015 documentary Blood Lions, the animals are caged and bred sometimes under terrible conditions. The young are taken from their mothers and brought to petting zoos. When male lions grow into adulthood, many are shot and killed for “hunting” fees that are much lower than the cost for a wild lion on a standard 21-day hunt ($5,000 to $15,000, versus $50,000 and up). And the trophy is virtually guaranteed."

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/10/trophy-hunting-killing-saving-animals/

The money from these hunts isn't substantial enough for them to treat their animals properly nevermind contribute to conservation.

Anyway, shooting what basically amounts to a caged animal is a dog act.

Poachers do the real damage. Don't see any social media outrage for them?

Klinkhammer

kneemos wrote: »

Poachers do the real damage. Don't see any social media outrage for them?

Is there any outrage needed when the authorities are actively trying to catch them? Anyway, enough of this whataboutery.

Cookie_Monster

Cookie_Monster wrote:

if you honestly can't see the difference between farming cattle and hunting endangered wildlife for sport I think you probably have significant morality issues.

I think you may have your moral blinkers on. Why is a cows life less important?

One could argue that keeping an animal in captivity, forcing insemination in order to milk it, keeping it away from its young and then butchering it for food is much more immoral.

kneemos

Klinkhammer wrote: »

Is there any outrage needed when the authorities are actively trying to catch them? Anyway, enough of this whataboutery.

It's not whataboutery. The moral outrage is directed at a group of people who at worst aren't doing any damage to animal numbers and are probably helping protect them.
"The authorities"if they give a **** have vast areas of wilderness to patrol. Poachers kill everything in sight,including young and pregnant animals and are destroying animal numbers.

B.A._Baracus

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

if you honestly can't see the difference between farming cattle and hunting endangered wildlife for sport I think you probably have significant morality issues.

Morality issues huh?
I remember watching that very good BBC documentary years ago about a slaughterhouse. It was hidden uncover footage you know the deal.
I'll always remember one bit when a pig fell down and was shaking. Narrator said it looked like the pig suffered a heart attack as it was being led into the slaughterhouse... dude working there starts kicking it and drags it in to be slaughtered. Got an awful ending. Conditions in the place were horrible too. I know this might shock you... but they were treating the animals like.... animals! who knew!

So my morality has something wrong with it? Or perhaps i'm not some hypocrite. The world is messed up. I ain't no bleeding heart either. I eat meat but it's messed up IF you stand back and look at things.

Klinkhammer

kneemos wrote: »

It's not whataboutery.

Its the definition.

steddyeddy

kneemos wrote: »

Poachers do the real damage. Don't see any social media outrage for them?

To be honest Kneemos it doesn't matter to the lion whether a poacher or hunter kills it. The rest of civilised society shouldn't draw such distinctions either.

BillyBobBS

Delighted. Hope he died roaring for his mammy.

GhostyMcGhost

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If you're not a vegan than your a hypocrite saying he deserved this

Why??? I don't eat ****ing lion (except lion bars)

Are vegans even allowed to ride a high horse

whisky_galore

Birneybau wrote: »

Fcuk him, law of the jungle.

It's more of a savannah tbf...

lawred2

Deleted User wrote: »

If you're not a vegan than your a hypocrite saying he deserved this

So if you stamped on a dog's head, I'd be a hypocrite for saying that you deserved similar because I eat some chicken?

lawred2

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Ursummupet

GhostyMcGhost wrote: »

Are vegans even allowed to ride a high horse

This here is the crux of the argument. Unattended I'd wager the vegan would eat all the horses paddock bare. There's cruelty and then there's this.

Optimalprimerib

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If you're not a vegan than your a hypocrite saying he deserved this

It's funny, right under this was an ad showing this guy fast asleep, mouth agape. It captured my exact feeling when I read your post.

I'm not even a vegan. My point is that the moral outrage associated with this kind of act is massively disproportionate to what goes on in the meat industry on a regular basis.

So yes, if you think he deserved to die for this, then all us meat eaters are complicit and deserve to be stuffed into battery farms.

If you think this is outrageous, try at least be consistent.

minikin

My grandfather was a big game hunter in Rhodesia.
Caught two monopolies and a trivial pursuit.

valoren

I don't know who is worse. Those who partake in this 'sport' or those whole facilitate and prosper from it.

Hande hoche!

minikin wrote: »

My grandfather was a big game hunter in Rhodesia.
Caught two monopolies and a trivial pursuit.

North or South?

minikin

Hande hoche! wrote: »

North or South?

No idea, probably explains why I never got the blue cheeses.

Hande hoche!

minikin wrote: »

No idea, probably explains why I never got the blue cheeses.

Simpler times, you could just wander across borders killing everything in your way.

minikin

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Simpler times, you could just wander across borders killing everything in your way.

It was a funny old game. Could get out of jail free, with the right cards.

Chrongen

muppetshow1451 wrote: »

What about the rest of the 5000 criminal gangs in sweden?Are they all croations?

Let me guess, you're trying to blame muslims for all the crimes committed by Balkan gangsters.

Chrongen

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah I agree, battery farming is far worse

Well it has its positives and its negatives

minikin

My other grandfather was charged with that, got off because he had some copper contacts.

steddyeddy

minikin wrote: »

My grandfather was a big game hunter in Rhodesia.
Caught two monopolies and a trivial pursuit.

Please get your coat.....

Pac1Man

Anyone remember Deer Hunter from way back?

o1s1n

A danger these canned lion hunts have is the damage they do to genetic diversity. They're incredibly inbread and often deformed.

I was talking to a conservationist in SA recently and they are afraid of the potential for these inbread lions escaping and impacting negatively on the local lions genetic pool.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Oh that’s terrible but more importantly did anyone see ‘Derry Grls’ last week, it’s wile funny.

fortwilliam

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kneemos

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Oh that’s terrible but more importantly did anyone see ‘Derry Grls’ last week, it’s wile funny.

Why can't they out it on in a sociable hour?