Croatian man shot dead whilst on a South Africa Lion trophy hunt

SharpshooterTom · 30-01-2018 09:38PM #1

Pero Jelinic, 75, was hit by a bullet on Saturday at Leeubosch Lodge farm, about 355km (221 miles) west of Johannesburg, police said.

"At this stage it is not clear who fired the fatal shot that killed Mr Jelinic," a police spokeswoman said.

One of Mr Jelinic's hunting friends said it had been an accident but police have opened a culpable homicide case.

They say Mr Jelinic was shot after the hunters had already killed one lion and were tracking a second.

The injured man was airlifted to hospital but died shortly afterwards.

Police are also investigating whether the hunters had illegal guns while hunting lions bred in captivity, police spokeswoman Charlize van der Linden told news24 website.

The death of Pero Jelinic was first reported over the weekend but his hunting friend later gave more details to Croatian media about what had allegedly transpired on Saturday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42878351

Already had killed one Lion in captivity but was gunned down whilst in the middle of attempting to kill another Lion.

Tragic for his friends and family, but it's hard to have too much sympathy for a guy who took pleasure out of killing wild exotic animals as a "sport".

J. Marston · 30-01-2018 09:47PM

MissShihTzu · 30-01-2018 09:49PM

Good! Serves him right. It's a shame he wasn't mauled by the lions. No sympathy.

vicwatson · 30-01-2018 09:50PM

Ha! The Loins fight back

Ursummupet · 30-01-2018 09:52PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Ha! The Loins fight back

He died happy so.

The_Valeyard · 30-01-2018 10:01PM

J. Marston wrote: »

I know i shouldnt laugh at that because a man has died, but still it was funny.

lawred2 · 30-01-2018 10:03PM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I know i shouldnt laugh at that because a man has died, but still it was funny.

Why not laugh? The image is funny, you didn't know him and he died being a selfish prick

30-01-2018 10:34PM

good enough for him

Birneybau · 30-01-2018 11:14PM

Fcuk him, law of the jungle.

rizzles · 30-01-2018 11:16PM

bluewolf wrote: »

good enough for him

croatians are the most unpopular refugees in my country
they are responsible for low level crime
and bring the attention of the authorities on locals original crime-boss

muppetshow1451 · 30-01-2018 11:21PM

rizzles wrote: »

croatians are the most unpopular refugees in my country
they are responsible for low level crime
and bring the attention of the authorities on locals original crime-boss

What about the rest of the 5000 criminal gangs in sweden?Are they all croations?

kneemos · 30-01-2018 11:34PM

Interesting docu on last night about these big game hunters. Poachers are the real enemy here and do massive damage,the companies that cater for these guys to go and shoot an animal are essentially conservationists.

31-01-2018 01:23AM

If you're not a vegan than your a hypocrite saying he deserved this

Noveight · 31-01-2018 01:45AM

Live by the sword, die by the sword an' all that.

Klinkhammer · 31-01-2018 01:54AM

kneemos wrote: »

Interesting docu on last night about these big game hunters. Poachers are the real enemy here and do massive damage,the companies that cater for these guys to go and shoot an animal are essentially conservationists.

That might be true but there's no sport in shooting a captive animal.

B.A._Baracus · 31-01-2018 01:54AM

Never got the whole no sympathy thing with things like this.

Killing an animal for sport... Breeding animals to be slaughtered and eaten... What's the difference we're the animals if you wanna get technical.

kneemos · 31-01-2018 02:11AM

Klinkhammer wrote: »

That might be true but there's no sport in shooting a captive animal.

Some people enjoy it. As I said these folk are protecting big game species.

JenovaProject · 31-01-2018 02:17AM

Cookie_Monster · 31-01-2018 02:18AM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Killing an animal for sport... Breeding animals to be slaughtered and eaten... What's the difference we're the animals if you wanna get technical.

if you honestly can't see the difference between farming cattle and hunting endangered wildlife for sport I think you probably have significant morality issues.

Klinkhammer · 31-01-2018 03:00AM

kneemos wrote: »

Some people enjoy it. As I said these folk are protecting big game species.

They might be on the face of it but they're probably not.

"In South Africa, which has some 2,000 wild lions, canned lion hunting has grown into a more than $100 million industry, with in excess of 200 facilities raising about 6,000 of the big cats for easy killing. According to Ian Michler, a South African safari operator and photographer who investigated the canned lion industry for the 2015 documentary Blood Lions, the animals are caged and bred sometimes under terrible conditions. The young are taken from their mothers and brought to petting zoos. When male lions grow into adulthood, many are shot and killed for “hunting” fees that are much lower than the cost for a wild lion on a standard 21-day hunt ($5,000 to $15,000, versus $50,000 and up). And the trophy is virtually guaranteed."

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/10/trophy-hunting-killing-saving-animals/

The money from these hunts isn't substantial enough for them to treat their animals properly nevermind contribute to conservation.

Anyway, shooting what basically amounts to a caged animal is a dog act.

31-01-2018 03:10AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

if you honestly can't see the difference between farming cattle and hunting endangered wildlife for sport I think you probably have significant morality issues.

Yeah I agree, battery farming is far worse

kneemos · 31-01-2018 03:25AM

Klinkhammer wrote: »

They might be on the face of it but they're probably not.

"In South Africa, which has some 2,000 wild lions, canned lion hunting has grown into a more than $100 million industry, with in excess of 200 facilities raising about 6,000 of the big cats for easy killing. According to Ian Michler, a South African safari operator and photographer who investigated the canned lion industry for the 2015 documentary Blood Lions, the animals are caged and bred sometimes under terrible conditions. The young are taken from their mothers and brought to petting zoos. When male lions grow into adulthood, many are shot and killed for “hunting” fees that are much lower than the cost for a wild lion on a standard 21-day hunt ($5,000 to $15,000, versus $50,000 and up). And the trophy is virtually guaranteed."

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/10/trophy-hunting-killing-saving-animals/

The money from these hunts isn't substantial enough for them to treat their animals properly nevermind contribute to conservation.

Anyway, shooting what basically amounts to a caged animal is a dog act.

Poachers do the real damage. Don't see any social media outrage for them?

Klinkhammer · 31-01-2018 03:34AM

kneemos wrote: »

Poachers do the real damage. Don't see any social media outrage for them?

Is there any outrage needed when the authorities are actively trying to catch them? Anyway, enough of this whataboutery.

31-01-2018 03:35AM

Cookie_Monster wrote:

if you honestly can't see the difference between farming cattle and hunting endangered wildlife for sport I think you probably have significant morality issues.

I think you may have your moral blinkers on. Why is a cows life less important?

One could argue that keeping an animal in captivity, forcing insemination in order to milk it, keeping it away from its young and then butchering it for food is much more immoral.

kneemos · 31-01-2018 03:43AM

Klinkhammer wrote: »

Is there any outrage needed when the authorities are actively trying to catch them? Anyway, enough of this whataboutery.

It's not whataboutery. The moral outrage is directed at a group of people who at worst aren't doing any damage to animal numbers and are probably helping protect them.
"The authorities"if they give a **** have vast areas of wilderness to patrol. Poachers kill everything in sight,including young and pregnant animals and are destroying animal numbers.

B.A._Baracus · 31-01-2018 03:53AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

if you honestly can't see the difference between farming cattle and hunting endangered wildlife for sport I think you probably have significant morality issues.

Morality issues huh?
I remember watching that very good BBC documentary years ago about a slaughterhouse. It was hidden uncover footage you know the deal.
I'll always remember one bit when a pig fell down and was shaking. Narrator said it looked like the pig suffered a heart attack as it was being led into the slaughterhouse... dude working there starts kicking it and drags it in to be slaughtered. Got an awful ending. Conditions in the place were horrible too. I know this might shock you... but they were treating the animals like.... animals! who knew!

So my morality has something wrong with it? Or perhaps i'm not some hypocrite. The world is messed up. I ain't no bleeding heart either. I eat meat but it's messed up IF you stand back and look at things.

Klinkhammer · 31-01-2018 04:24AM

kneemos wrote: »

It's not whataboutery.

Its the definition.

steddyeddy · 31-01-2018 08:44AM

kneemos wrote: »

Poachers do the real damage. Don't see any social media outrage for them?

To be honest Kneemos it doesn't matter to the lion whether a poacher or hunter kills it. The rest of civilised society shouldn't draw such distinctions either.

BillyBobBS · 31-01-2018 08:45AM

Delighted. Hope he died roaring for his mammy.

GhostyMcGhost · 31-01-2018 09:01AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If you're not a vegan than your a hypocrite saying he deserved this

Why??? I don't eat ****ing lion (except lion bars)

Are vegans even allowed to ride a high horse

whisky_galore · 31-01-2018 09:10AM

Birneybau wrote: »

Fcuk him, law of the jungle.

It's more of a savannah tbf...

Croatian man shot dead whilst on a South Africa Lion trophy hunt

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