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Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

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    #6092
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    Pkiernan wrote: »
    No.
    Only far left nutters bring race in to it.

    These criminal should be arrested and if eligible deported.


    Are you serious ? The far right nutters are delighted with this - a great way to whip up racial division and hatred. Any before anyone says so, no that doesn't mean that these gangs can't be discussed.


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    #6093
    MrFresh
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    not yet wrote: »
    Did you miss 'travel' by any chance...?


    Travel where? Have you never been to Finglas or Ballyfermot? There are often gangs of young white youths around, especially in the evenings. They aren't doing the trashtag challenge either. It's pretty telling that this is such a big issue for some people when they are more bothered by youths doing bad things when their parents might be foreign.


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    #6094
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    GinAndBitter wrote: »
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/extra.ie/2019/03/14/news/irish-news/car-wash-war-tallaght/amp

    Looks like those who carried out the attack on the African man in Tallaght are eastern Europeans.


    Well, I'm sure if they did it was just incidental. Noone will suggest that it was related to their "culture" or "nature" or "genetics" - East Europeans that is. :rolleyes:


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    #6095
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    GinAndBitter wrote: »
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/extra.ie/2019/03/14/news/irish-news/car-wash-war-tallaght/amp

    Looks like those who carried out the attack on the African man in Tallaght are eastern Europeans.


    It's just people being blind to what doesn't suit them. 10/15 years ago you'd have the same people arguing against all the Polish people. And there absolutely were gangs of Eastern Europeans around. They stuck together as new immigrants tend to do.


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    #6096
    GinAndBitter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 746 ✭✭✭GinAndBitter


    MrFresh wrote: »
    It's just people being blind to what doesn't suit them. 10/15 years ago you'd have the same people arguing against all the Polish people. And there absolutely were gangs of Eastern Europeans around. They stuck together as new immigrants tend to do.

    Polish and other immigrants still do stick together from what i see, that isn't the problem. The problem is gangs of Africans travelling around north Dublin robbing and assaulting Irish people.


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    #6097
    MrFresh
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    GinAndBitter wrote: »
    Polish and other immigrants still do stick together from what i see, that isn't the problem. The problem is gangs of Africans travelling around north Dublin robbing and assaulting Irish people.


    Aren't many of them born in Ireland?


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    #6098
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,120 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    The problem is parenting.

    Whether the little sh1ts are African, Irish, Polish or whatever. Lazy parents will not know or care where their darlings are. Will not ask any questions when they come home with money or a new (or different) phone, bicycle, jacket, set of trainers.

    It's nothing new. Ask any shop owner in Dublin city about gangs (or groups of young lads, if 'gangs' sounds too alarmist) coming in and clearing them out. That's gangs of non-Africans, for years, nothing new.

    Until there is some incentive (or disincentive) for people to adjust their parenting style, it will go on.


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    #6099
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    MrFresh wrote: »
    Travel where? Have you never been to Finglas or Ballyfermot? There are often gangs of young white youths around, especially in the evenings. They aren't doing the trashtag challenge either. It's pretty telling that this is such a big issue for some people when they are more bothered by youths doing bad things when their parents might be foreign.

    Ha Ha, Listen pal, I'm from the inner city and have lived in a lot of working class areas, so don't try lecture me on Ballyfermot or Finglas..

    You have whatever agenda suits your narrative, I'm not reading anymore of your bullsh1t.


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    #6100
    GinAndBitter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 746 ✭✭✭GinAndBitter


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Aren't many of them born in Ireland?

    Not sure, what I do know is a lot of them speak with English accents. Make of that what you will


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    #6101
    not yet
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    GinAndBitter wrote: »
    Polish and other immigrants still do stick together from what i see, that isn't the problem. The problem is gangs of Africans travelling around north Dublin robbing and assaulting Irish people.

    Some people would have you believe it's not a problem.


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    #6102
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    GinAndBitter wrote: »
    Not sure, what I do know is a lot of them speak with English accents. Make of that what you will

    Innit bruv...


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    #6103
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    Effects wrote: »
    What I've read from the mother:
    "my baby boy wouldnt harm a fly the bastards dragged up ***** tat did it ill every last one of yous scumbags police me bollox ill kill them telling lies about a fight i 40 against 1 scumbags SCUM"

    https://www.facebook.com/paulachristinalarkin

    Child doesn't look too battered to me?? Big smile on his face???


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    #6104
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    BBFAN wrote: »
    Child doesn't look too battered to me?? Big smile on his face???

    Do you think by any chance that's an old photo ?


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    #6105
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    not yet wrote: »
    Ha Ha, Listen pal, I'm from the inner city and have lived in a lot of working class areas, so don't try lecture me on Ballyfermot or Finglas..

    You have whatever agenda suits your narrative, I'm not reading anymore of your bullsh1t.


    If you think youths traveling around in gangs is not something that white youths have been doing for a long time then you either have no knowledge of those areas or you are lying.


    GinAndBitter wrote: »
    Not sure, what I do know is a lot of them speak with English accents. Make of that what you will


    So why call them African?


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    #6106
    GinAndBitter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 746 ✭✭✭GinAndBitter


    MrFresh wrote: »
    If you think youths traveling around in gangs is not something that white youths have been doing for a long time then you either have no knowledge of those areas or you are lying.






    So why call them African?

    Sorry, they are Africans trying to be English gangsters.


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    #6107
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    GinAndBitter wrote: »
    Sorry, they are Africans trying to be English gangsters.


    They are Africans trying to be English in Ireland? But they could be Irish, you don't really know.


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    #6108
    Quandary
    Registered Users Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭Quandary


    spurious wrote: »
    The problem is parenting.

    Whether the little sh1ts are African, Irish, Polish or whatever. Lazy parents will not know or care where their darlings are. Will not ask any questions when they come home with money or a new (or different) phone, bicycle, jacket, set of trainers.

    It's nothing new. Ask any shop owner in Dublin city about gangs (or groups of young lads, if 'gangs' sounds too alarmist) coming in and clearing them out. That's gangs of non-Africans, for years, nothing new.

    Until there is some incentive (or disincentive) for people to adjust their parenting style, it will go on.

    I wish I could thank this post twice. The parents need to be held accountable legally and financially for the behaviour while their child is up to a certain age. I am currently teaching in a disadvantaged school and one of our 6th class pupils delivers drugs by bicycle regularly in and around the area. The Gardai have caught him multiple times but nothing is being done because he is too young to prosecute. Tusla have been working with the family in question for over 3 years and the situation has just gotten worse, not better. Our principal has mountains of paper work, liaising with the local community Gaurd, social worker, various tusla staff but nothing has worked because his parents are complete scumbags who do not give a sh1t.

    I won't go on because this is really a topic for a tangential thread but lack of parental accountability is a colossal problem in allowing serious juvenile crime to continue to run rife in this country.


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    #6109
    Dante7
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    GinAndBitter wrote: »
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/extra.ie/2019/03/14/news/irish-news/car-wash-war-tallaght/amp

    Looks like those who carried out the attack on the African man in Tallaght are eastern Europeans.

    That's the last we will hear about that so.


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    #6110
    pablo128
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    Dante7 wrote: »
    That's the last we will hear about that so.

    The odd thing is that he claimed it was a racist attack according to a media interview he gave.

    Though it's quite possible a journalist wrote it for him. I've seen that happen before.


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    #6111
    GinAndBitter
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    Dante7 wrote: »
    That's the last we will hear about that so.

    You were spot on anyway the other day about this. This fella is obviously lying through is teeth.


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    #6112
    leestone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭leestone


    It’s black gangs African gangs not Irish not Eastern Europe you see them anywhere from Balbriggan to Dundalk especially going around in huge crowds terrorizing people not once did I see in my lifetime any other ethic group doing this as regularly and I have worked in every part of the country.


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    #6113
    MrFresh
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    leestone wrote: »
    It’s black gangs African gangs not Irish not Eastern Europe you see them anywhere from Balbriggan to Dundalk


    What? Is there some punctuation missing there? What's the colour of their skin got to do with it?


    leestone wrote: »
    especially going around in huge crowds terrorizing people not once did I see in my lifetime any other ethic group doing this as regularly and I have worked in every part of the country.


    Sheriff Street, Finglas, Blanchardstown, Ronanstown, Clondalkin, Ballyfermot, Drimnagh, Killinarden, Jobstwon. All have issues with gangs of youths and have done for decades. No indication they are anything but Irish.


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    #6114
    daveville30
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    Gangs in these areas are 5 or 6 lads not 20. mugging people the people of balbriggan had a protest outside the garda station about these African gangs has this been the case with young polish or even irish no because they don't behave like a pack of wild dogs


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    #6115
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭pablo128


    MrFresh wrote: »
    What? Is there some punctuation missing there? What's the colour of their skin got to do with it?






    Sheriff Street, Finglas, Blanchardstown, Ronanstown, Clondalkin, Ballyfermot, Drimnagh, Killinarden, Jobstwon. All have issues with gangs of youths and have done for decades. No indication they are anything but Irish.
    Can you provide an example of 40+ Irish youths roaming around Dublin randomly attacking men, women and children?

    In your own time please.


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    #6116
    MrFresh
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    daveville30 wrote: »
    Gangs in these areas are 5 or 6 lads not 20. mugging people


    What fantasy land are you living in?


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    #6117
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    leestone wrote: »
    It’s black gangs African gangs not Irish not Eastern Europe you see them anywhere from Balbriggan to Dundalk especially going around in huge crowds terrorizing people not once did I see in my lifetime any other ethic group doing this as regularly and I have worked in every part of the country.

    No, No, you are wrong, you have to be wrong. Either that, or you're lying..


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    #6118
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    daveville30 wrote: »
    Gangs in these areas are 5 or 6 lads not 20. mugging people the people of balbriggan had a protest outside the garda station about these African gangs has this been the case with young polish or even irish no because they don't behave like a pack of wild dogs

    No, No, you are wrong, Irish gangs travel in huge numbers to attack and terrorise local people. So why are you picking on Young black youths..


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    #6119
    MrFresh
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    pablo128 wrote: »
    Can you provide an example of 40+ Irish youths roaming around Dublin randomly attacking men, women and children?

    In your own time please.


    Are ye really doubling down on this nonsense?



    http://www.echo.ie/ballyfermot/article/gangs-of-youths-causing-an-epidemic-of-burnt-out-cars


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/shocking-video-footage-shows-gang-of-up-to-30-youths-vandalising-cars-in-dublin-city-centre-36192261.html


    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/up-50-youths-launch-unprovoked-15617425


    https://www.thejournal.ie/gardai-cherry-orchard-1802987-Nov2014/


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    #6120
    Dante7
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    GinAndBitter wrote: »
    You were spot on anyway the other day about this. This fella is obviously lying through is teeth.

    Yep. You could spot that there was something not right there. I think I called nonsense when he said he was called a monkey.
    Now that we know that this wasn't just some random racist attack, it would be interesting to see if there were other attacks in the area about these car wash wars. Was this victim involved in other attacks in this "war"?
    We'll never know. Once it is minorities misbehaving the press don't really report it.


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    #6121
    pablo128
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    MrFresh wrote: »
    Are ye really doubling down on this nonsense?



    http://www.echo.ie/ballyfermot/article/gangs-of-youths-causing-an-epidemic-of-burnt-out-cars


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/shocking-video-footage-shows-gang-of-up-to-30-youths-vandalising-cars-in-dublin-city-centre-36192261.html


    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/up-50-youths-launch-unprovoked-15617425


    https://www.thejournal.ie/gardai-cherry-orchard-1802987-Nov2014/

    Your 3rd link was a black Tallaght gang. The others don't show gangs roaming around attacking men,women and children.

    Have another go there.


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