Midleton Very Rare 2017. New box Old box

mikeecho

The 2017 version of Midleton very rare can be bought in either a new style of bottle/box, and the old Traditional bottle/ box.

Which one will be more collectable?

I have both.

mik_da_man

mikeecho wrote: »

The 2017 version of Midleton very rare can be bought in either a new style of bottle/box, and the old Traditional bottle/ box.

Which one will be more collectable?

I have both.

Hard to know, but prob the old style one. Think there is less of them.

sceach16

mikeecho wrote: »

The 2017 version of Midleton very rare can be bought in either a new style of bottle/box, and the old Traditional bottle/ box.

Which one will be more collectable?

I have both.

Gossip is that the old box is likely to be scarcer. Only available in some airports (not Dublin) and some European markets. Not sure about U.S.

mikeecho

sceach16 wrote: »

Gossip is that the old box is likely to be scarcer. Only available in some airports (not Dublin) and some European markets. Not sure about U.S.

That's what I thought, but then I heard that the old style box was for foreign markets and that the new box was for 2017 going to be in Ireland and the US.

Does anyone know for definite ?

Because Germany seems to be getting both styles of box.

L1011

Its guesswork without knowing the exact numbers produced of each type. If one is rarer it'll be more valuable.

I find it quite pathetic that a whiskey is being made knowing that vast amounts of it will never be drunk - they may as well put brown sugar syrup in the bottles...

mikeecho

L1011 wrote: »

Its guesswork without knowing the exact numbers produced of each type. If one is rarer it'll be more valuable.

I find it quite pathetic that a whiskey is being made knowing that vast amounts of it will never be drunk - they may as well put brown sugar syrup in the bottles...

It's a hobby.. just like collecting stamps.
It's unfortunate that you have that opinion.

As the numbers produced, it's never known how many bottles of MVR are released on any given year.
But this 2017 batch is even more of a mystery.

Quackster

mikeecho wrote: »

It's a hobby.. just like collecting stamps.
It's unfortunate that you have that opinion.

Ah, but when you collect stamps, artworks etc, you get to appreciate them while you have them!

The idea of keeping fine bottles of whiskey in my house without ever getting to sample the delights contained within seems utterly sinful!

rubadub

Quackster wrote: »

Ah, but when you collect stamps, artworks etc, you get to appreciate them while you have them!

How do you appreciate stamps, you are also not using them for the supposed "proper" puprose intended, just looking at them. I would sooner browse through someones collection of whiskey bottles & boxes than a stamp collection.

It could well end up drank at some stage.

sceach16

sceach16 wrote: »

Gossip is that the old box is likely to be scarcer. Only available in some airports (not Dublin) and some European markets. Not sure about U.S.

We have one of the old style box left at work. Nobody would buy it over Christmas. Everybody wanted the new box or nothing at all. Might buy it myself now.

mikeecho

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We have one of the old style box left at work. Nobody would buy it over Christmas. Everybody wanted the new box or nothing at all. Might buy it myself now.

Just make sure that it's 2017

mikeecho

mikeecho wrote: »

Just make sure that it's 2017

It's a 2017 alright.

mikeecho

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's a 2017 alright.

Strange that the 2017 old style was made available here.
I had it on good authority that only the new packaging was being distributed in Ireland.

This mistery of MVR 2017, is akin to The Curse of Oak Island.
Everytime you figure something out, something happens to contradict it.

Oafley Jones

Given that Master of Malt are saying that they'll be supplying the old style box till "mid 2018", I can't imagine that they're that uncommon.

Edit: The Whiskey Exchange also show the old style box with 2017 on it.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's a 2017 alright.

Just checked it this morning and I was wrong, it's a 2016 bottle. I was sure it was 2017. Might buy it anyway!

mikeecho

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Just checked it this morning and I was wrong, it's a 2016 bottle. I was sure it was 2017. Might buy it anyway!

I found the 2016 to be nicer than the 2017, even though the '17 has older stock in it.

CeilingFly

L1011 wrote: »

Its guesswork without knowing the exact numbers produced of each type. If one is rarer it'll be more valuable.

I find it quite pathetic that a whiskey is being made knowing that vast amounts of it will never be drunk - they may as well put brown sugar syrup in the bottles...

Many collectors will drink the whiskey and keep the empty bottle and box

Currently 8 empty Middleton boxes (collected over many years), 4 full ones, one half full. One Teeling 23 silver bottling full, one half empty

TheBully

I picked up the old box 2017 In Edinburgh 2 weeks ago, il prob pick up a new style box though soon enough just to add to the collection, il pop down to the distillery tomorrow to see which one they are selling.

mik_da_man

TheBully wrote: »

I picked up the old box 2017 In Edinburgh 2 weeks ago, il prob pick up a new style box though soon enough just to add to the collection, il pop down to the distillery tomorrow to see which one they are selling.

Only the new one there.

Dont be at yourself

Picked up the old box 2017 on Irish Ferries, €120!

quadrifoglio verde

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

Picked up the old box 2017 on Irish Ferries, €120!

Yeah it's a bargain on the ferry! If you can call a bottle of whiskey for 120 a bargain

mik_da_man

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

Yeah it's a bargain on the ferry! If you can call a bottle of whiskey for 120 a bargain

Seeing as it retails for 180 it's a decent bargain.
Plus if you go club class you get a further discount I believe.

sceach16

mik_da_man wrote: »

Seeing as it retails for 180 it's a decent bargain.
Plus if you go club class you get a further discount I believe.

I checked this with Irish Ferries. Club class discount does not apply to booze or tobacco.

mikeecho

I've managed to acquire 4x old style bottles, and I picked up a few new style locally.

Being on midleton 2018

sceach16

mikeecho wrote: »

I've managed to acquire 4x old style bottles, and I picked up a few new style locally.

Being on midleton 2018

Yep. I reckon my Irish Ferries 2017s will be good to trade for 2018s! (eventually)

mikeecho

sceach16 wrote: »

Yep. I reckon my Irish Ferries 2017s will be good to trade for 2018s! (eventually)

I'll put it with my collection of 2009's

L1011

sceach16 wrote: »

I checked this with Irish Ferries. Club class discount does not apply to booze or tobacco.

Is it not halved for booze and just stopped for tobacco and, weirdly, Chanel perfume?

sceach16

L1011 wrote: »

Is it not halved for booze and just stopped for tobacco and, weirdly, Chanel perfume?

Text of email.


"Hi Mick,

The discount would not apply to cigarettes or alcohol purchases.

Thanks and Regards,"


I might do a field test!

L1011

I was going on the signs in the actual shop on the boat but it's entirely possible I'm wrong!

The alcohol is not really cheap whereas the tobacco is so there are definitely different margins in play

Quackster

L1011 wrote: »

I was going on the signs in the actual shop on the boat but it's entirely possible I'm wrong!

The alcohol is not really cheap whereas the tobacco is so there are definitely different margins in play

Any booze I've picked up on Irish Ferries has been as cheap as, if not cheaper than, the duty free prices at Dublin Airport so I'm not sure what margin they'd have to cut prices any further.

L1011

Quackster wrote: »

Any booze I've picked up on Irish Ferries has been as cheap as, if not cheaper than, the duty free prices at Dublin Airport so I'm not sure what margin they'd have to cut prices any further.

On the Ulysses two weeks ago there was nothing astonishingly good value and some was actually cheaper volume for volume in Tesco Ireland (Black Bush, even after calculating 700ml vs the 1l bottle on the boat). I took a look at everything as I had the remains of my Ryanair refund cheque that I said was to be spent on whisky to burn. I burnt it in Tesco UK instead.

Virtually nothing that Tesco UK sold was cheaper on the boat but their selection of Irish is bloody awful. The Tesco in Holyhead has a fantastic selection of Scotch, Gin, Vodka and Rum though.

Dublin Airport prices are also pretty crap these days though. 1l of Gordons, duty free, with the Fastrack discount was noticeably dearer than on arrival in Switzerland. Switzerland, where a tolberone is about a tenner in duty free!

mik_da_man

sceach16 wrote: »

I checked this with Irish Ferries. Club class discount does not apply to booze or tobacco.

That's very odd, I've gotten it before.