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Selling to council

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  • 19-01-2018 3:32pm
    #1
    aj89
    Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭


    Hi folks,

    Just wondering if people have any experiences of selling a house to the County Council.

    My house is on my market currently and we have been advised that the council would be willing to make an offer.

    Does anyone have any pros or cons for the seller?

    Cheers!


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    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,453 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Same as a standard sale.
    Time period is the same.

    The council offered my mate 5k over the other highest bidder recently here in dublin.


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    aj89
    Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭aj89


    Couldn't really imagine anything different myself, just said I might as well throw the idea out there in case I missed anything obvious!


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    hawkelady
    Registered Users Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    Does the estate agent tell the seller it's a county council ? Obvisiously the seller will accept the highest bid no matter who offers I suppose. Kceire.... was your mates place a house or apt??? I hear that the council are slow to bid on apt due to " hassle with mgmt companies". Not sure if true or not


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    aj89
    Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭aj89


    It was our estate agent that rang to say the council were in contact querying the house.


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    NauP
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭NauP


    You don't need an estate agent. Deal directly and avoid agents commission.


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    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    What section would deal with this?


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    NauP
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭NauP


    Elianna Wooden Trademark wrote: »
    What section would deal with this?

    Housing Dept.


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    Graham
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    NauP wrote: »
    You don't need an estate agent. Deal directly and avoid agents commission.

    Estate agents aren't nearly as daft as some vendors.

    As the EA has already made the introduction and assuming the OP has already contracted the agent to sell the property, I can't think of any way this wouldn't end up with the OP receiving a bill from the EA.


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    hairyslug
    Registered Users Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭hairyslug


    We sold to them, they offered 4k above the previous bid.
    We were told that once they put an offer in, they never pull out. But we had to wait an additional 3 weeks while whoever had to sign off on it came back from holidays.


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    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    hawkelady wrote: »
    Does the estate agent tell the seller it's a county council ? Obvisiously the seller will accept the highest bid no matter who offers I suppose. Kceire.... was your mates place a house or apt??? I hear that the council are slow to bid on apt due to " hassle with mgmt companies". Not sure if true or not

    There are numerous reasons why a vendor might not take the highest bid. Nowt as queer as folk.


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    the_syco
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    hawkelady wrote: »
    Obvisiously the seller will accept the highest bid no matter who offers I suppose.
    Not always. Past neighbour back in Ireland sold their house to someone who lived locally, as the neighbour had friends on the road. Think the family who got the house was 2nd or 3rd highest; the others were buy2let.


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    Sleeper12
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    I can't speak for other councils but DCC can be a nightmare to deal with. They will follow through with the deal but it can take twice as long as a regular sale. Every i has to be dotted and every t must be crossed to the extreme.


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    Gumbo
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    hawkelady wrote: »
    Does the estate agent tell the seller it's a county council ? Obvisiously the seller will accept the highest bid no matter who offers I suppose. Kceire.... was your mates place a house or apt??? I hear that the council are slow to bid on apt due to " hassle with mgmt companies". Not sure if true or not

    A house.
    Technically you don’t need an estate agent either as you can call the city council directly. They will tell you straight out if they are interested and the ball starts rolling from there.

    They will inspect and value the property and you accept of your happy.
    Only fees are your legal fees then.


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    Gumbo
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    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Every i has to be dotted and every t must be crossed to the extreme.

    Which should be the case in any house purchase to be honest.


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    October
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    I sold to Fingal. Took about a month longer than normal but that was mainly because it was over Christmas/solicitor went on maternity/staff on time off. But apart from that it was a smooth process and I knew council wasn’t going to pull out of sale.


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    Sleeper12
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    kceire wrote:
    Which should be the case in any house purchase to be honest.


    Yes it should but DCC take months longer for some strange reason.


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    Dee01
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    WE sold to the council (DCC) because we knew they wouldn’t pull out of the sale. They weren’t the highest bidder, but we knew we had a guaranteed sale, so we took the safe option. They were fine to deal with and while it took a bit longer, that didn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things.


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    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Dee01 wrote: »
    WE sold to the council (DCC) because we knew they wouldn’t pull out of the sale. They weren’t the highest bidder, but we knew we had a guaranteed sale, so we took the safe option. They were fine to deal with and while it took a bit longer, that didn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things.

    How long did it take?


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    mad m
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    Just remember DCC will have a max to go to. They factor in a certain price also to bring house up to renting standards.

    DCC do not want to be seen to be out bidding people , they won’t get into a bidding war etc.

    AFAIK it’s not the housing dept, there is a section in there that solely deals with buying houses- “buy backs” as it’s known.


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    evolving_doors
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    mad m wrote: »
    Just remember DCC will have a max to go to. They factor in a certain price also to bring house up to renting standards.

    DCC do not want to be seen to be out bidding people , they won’t get into a bidding war etc.

    AFAIK it’s not the housing dept, there is a section in there that solely deals with buying houses- “buy backs” as it’s known.

    The 10 yr lease is a different kettle of fish but i know they just go to the daft report and estimate the rent from that figure in your location.
    They might use the property register to calculate an average from there too as they are actual sales as opposed to asking prices on daft.

    It would be interesting to see if the offer people received is around the average daft sale figure during that period.


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    hawkelady
    Registered Users Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    mad m wrote: »
    Just remember DCC will have a max to go to. They factor in a certain price also to bring house up to renting standards.

    DCC do not want to be seen to be out bidding people , they won’t get into a bidding war etc.

    AFAIK it’s not the housing dept, there is a section in there that solely deals with buying houses- “buy backs” as it’s known.

    You are right. The cc have an acquisitions dept that look after purchases. I believe the property has to be vacant before they will negotiate, even if a landlord is selling a property with council tenants in situ ..


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    Dee01
    Registered Users Posts: 261 ✭✭Dee01


    Elianna Wooden Trademark wrote: »
    How long did it take?


    We went sale agreed at the start of August and everything changed hands on 22nd December. We did push and push for a date before Christmas as we didn’t want it dragging into the new year. The only tip I’d give you is to keep on them. We called them directly whenever we needed an update.


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    October
    Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭October


    Council bought my house which was rented out at the time to a tenant in receipt of rent allowance. Tenant was also on the housing list and they kept tenant in house after sale completed.



    You are right. The cc have an acquisitions dept that look after purchases. I believe the property has to be vacant before they will negotiate, even if a landlord is selling a property with council tenants in situ ..[/quote]


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    Scienceless
    Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭Scienceless


    Are all city councils buying houses if they consider them suitable?


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    CollyFlower
    Registered Users Posts: 6,002 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    Scienceless wrote: »
    Are all city councils buying houses if they consider them suitable?

    They (the Council) will buy anything in any area. They had 20% of the housing on the new Ballsbridge development but somehow they came to a deal with the developers and will now get 0% of that development.


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    SNNUS
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    Your neighbours will be delighted with your decision.


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    SuperS54
    Registered Users Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭SuperS54


    SNNUS wrote: »
    Your neighbours will be delighted with your decision.

    Ex neighbours soon!


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    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    SNNUS wrote: »
    Your neighbours will be delighted with your decision.

    Then let them buy and they can chose who lives in it.


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    October
    Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭October


    You are right. The cc have an acquisitions dept that look after purchases. I believe the property has to be vacant before they will negotiate, even if a landlord is selling a property with council tenants in situ ..[/quote]

    Council bought my house with tenant in situ.


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    Caranica
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    October wrote: »
    You are right. The cc have an acquisitions dept that look after purchases. I believe the property has to be vacant before they will negotiate, even if a landlord is selling a property with council tenants in situ ..

    Council bought my house with tenant in situ.[/quote]

    Depends on the council. Dun Laoghaire Rathdown require vacant possession, not sure about others


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