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Israel will imprison migrants if they dont leave

  • 05-01-2018 8:23pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭


    The Israeli government has issued a notice for thousands of African migrants to leave the country or face imprisonment.

    The migrants will be given up to $3,500 (£2,600) for leaving within the next 90 days.

    They will be given the option of going to their home country or third countries.

    If they do not leave, the Israeli authorities have threatened that they will start jailing them from April.





    A case of history repeating itself ?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42541515


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Where did that quote come from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Ronaldinho


    Your Face wrote: »
    Where did that quote come from?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42541515


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


    Your Face wrote: »
    Where did that quote come from?

    The BBC

    Just put the link up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭123balltv


    Australia might try that next year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Israel does what Israel wants.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    But if they imprison the illegal immigrants, then they cant leave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 415 ✭✭falinn merking


    I have no problem with Israel doing what they want once their agents or paid off Stooges don't interfere with my nation.

    ALAN-SHATTER-1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,415 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Not going to get in to the rights or wrongs of it but doesn't Israel have a policy of accepting anyone of the Jewish faith? What if these migrants converted?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 415 ✭✭falinn merking


    Collie D wrote: »
    Not going to get in to the rights or wrongs of it but doesn't Israel have a policy of accepting anyone of the Jewish faith? What if these migrants converted?


    jiFfM.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    But if they imprison the illegal immigrants, then they cant leave.

    It could actually make it easier, they will just be detained until they are deported to where ever they came from..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Thats numberwang


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I thought Australia sorted this out stat, by placing asylum seekers initially to Papua New Guinea or some other Island offshore.

    No worries as they say. And no more undocumented asylum seekers either.

    They got no vitriol for doing this either did they?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Now, imagine the uproar if what the "democratic" state of Israel is doing to 'African migrants' were replicated in, say, Ireland or other states that are considered to be genuinely democratic states?

    Israel, the apartheid state that we cannot describe as such, is a law unto itself, and if we expect to hold them to liberal democratic norms and values, we can expect to be called "anti-Semitic".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,415 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    jiFfM.jpg

    Nice meme. Never seen it before. Nothing wrong with a cheeky hypothetical question on a Friday. Sorry it wasn't to your tastes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭keith_sixteen


    Israel, imprisoning the locals and the fordiners.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    #openbordersforIsrael


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Ooh!! It’s all kicking off here!! Pitchforks and torches at the ready!!

    #downwithisrael


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Collie D wrote: »
    Nice meme. Never seen it before. Nothing wrong with a cheeky hypothetical question on a Friday. Sorry it wasn't to your tastes.

    You’re correct. Interesting case here between conservative Jews supporting an African migrant from a Jewish tribe who was deported by the interior ministry despite the tribe being recognised Jewish community.

    http://www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/.premium-1.833231
    The Law of Return allows any individual who has converted to Judaism to immigrate to Israel and receive Israeli citizenship, provided he or she has been converted in a “recognized Jewish community.” In April 2016, the Jewish Agency ruled that the Abayudaya is a “recognized” Jewish community. In theory, then, any member of the community is eligible to immigrate to Israel, not to mention visit the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,560 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Good deterrent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 415 ✭✭falinn merking


    Collie D wrote: »
    Nice meme. Never seen it before. Nothing wrong with a cheeky hypothetical question on a Friday. Sorry it wasn't to your tastes.

    I misread your post your sarcastic post which I mistook for serious.
    My bad sorry.:o

    However it is a good meme.:D


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    I thought Australia sorted this out stat, by placing asylum seekers initially to Papua New Guinea or some other Island offshore.

    No worries as they say. And no more undocumented asylum seekers either.

    They got no vitriol for doing this either did they?

    You might want to look into that again, there was huge problems with it, not least that the PNG supreme court ruled that it was illegal, and at worst the treatment of the people in the detention centers was so bad the Aussie gov agreed to pay 70 million Dollarydoos in compo on the condition that they can claim no liability


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Do you ever notice that Israel is the only habitable country to live in the region.


    Jews and- Christians 4 life.


    Christ killers and the Old Testament.


    Christians and the New Test. The life of the saviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    We'll back any Jew and treat them as a brother.



    Love the Jew and their country.


    Will fight for them as a Christian


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Do you ever notice that Israel is the only habitable country to live in the region.


    Jews and- Christians 4 life.


    Christ killers and the Old Testament.


    Christians and the New Test. The life of the saviour.
    We'll back any Jew and treat them as a brother.



    Love the Jew and their country.


    Will fight for them as a Christian

    You been hacked or have you always been crazy and I just never noticed?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Love the Jew...

    I don't think I've heard a reference to "the Jew" since Borat!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    I have no problem with Israel doing what they want once their agents or paid off Stooges don't interfere with my nation.

    ALAN-SHATTER-1.jpg

    On the phone so I can't post one of those face palm memes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Sin City wrote: »
    A case of history repeating itself ?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42541515

    the BBC being typically vague

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


    Something about a nation rounding up people to get rid of them to keep their nation pure


    Where have I heard that before?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    You been hacked or have you always been crazy and I just never noticed?



    Love the Jew . Christians and Jews are brethern.


    Old test and Torah, coupled with our New Testament and the word of the Lord.


    We're brothers.


    The only state in that region which functions. God save Israel and the Choosen People.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sin City wrote: »
    Something about a nation rounding up people to get rid of them to keep their nation pure


    Where have I heard that before?

    Except that they're expelling them from their borders rather than preventing them from leaving and exterminating them. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


    Except that they're expelling them from their borders rather than preventing them from leaving and exterminating them. :rolleyes:

    This is how it starts
    Next thing you know theyll be bulldozing down their houses who knows what next :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭NollagShona


    Breaking Migrant News (only the negative stuff) 24/7 on Breitbart.boards.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,824 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Bit rich considering the Jews lecture Europeans to take in migrants.

    "The Jews" don't all support the behaviour of the state of Israel which would be Zionist in nature, an offshoot of Judaism rather than representative of the faith as a whole.
    You'd have to question the logic of imprisonment of migrants, surely deportation is what they'd be better off implementing a policy of is they want them out of their country.

    Glazers Out!



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Gas. An itinerant nation jailing people for trespassing. It’s like Ireland in reverse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    Do you ever notice that Israel is the only habitable country to live in the region.

    Israel is the only democratic habitable country in the middle east. It is surrounded by Muslim countries who want to push it in to the sea. In Saudi Arabia for example, a country much much bigger than Israel, it is against the law to build a Christian church. Never mind equal rights for women.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Sin City wrote: »
    A case of history repeating itself ?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42541515


    Sounds like a common sense policy to me.

    Perhaps Ireland could do the same in relation to our own illegal immigrants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,824 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    maryishere wrote: »
    Israel is the only democratic habitable country in the middle east. It is surrounded by Muslim countries who want to push it in to the sea. In Saudi Arabia for example, a country much much bigger than Israel, it is against the law to build a Christian church. Never mind equal rights for women.

    A democratic habitable County as long as you don't identify as Palestinian, if you're a Palestinian or even a Christian you're fair game for all types of discrimination and abuse.
    The crap that goes on in Muslim nations is appalling and needs to change but Israel is no paragon of virtue by comparison.

    Glazers Out!



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    We’ve the Brits to thank for this.

    Show me a conflict anywhere in the world and you’ll find the Brits at the root of it.

    **** probably have an an M&S branch open in Palestine too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,824 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    david75 wrote: »
    We’ve the Brits to thank for this.

    Show me a conflict anywhere in the world and you’ll find the Brits at the root of it.

    **** probably have an an M&S branch open in Palestine too

    I want to have a go at the Greeks, they invented gayness.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,217 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    maryishere wrote: »
    Israel is the only democratic habitable country in the middle east. ,.............

    You can't occupy land inhabited by millions, govern them under martial law, and then go on about being a 'democracy'.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    nullzero wrote: »
    I want to have a go at the Greeks, they invented gayness.

    We can’t be kinda gay and adopt all their ideas about democracy and then anti gay and against their inbuilt invention of homosexuality. We’d look like we’re Bi. And nobody likes de Bi’s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    nullzero wrote: »
    A democratic habitable County as long as you don't identify as Palestinian, if you're a Palestinian or even a Christian you're fair game for all types of discrimination and abuse.
    The crap that goes on in Muslim nations is appalling and needs to change but Israel is no paragon of virtue by comparison.

    Honestly I think Israel does deserve the larger amount of criticism it gets over neighbouring muslims nations which are also horrible and corrupt. But many of them are unashamedly authoritarian while Israel acts as though its a democratic and liberal country like european ones, when its not much better than them. Also considering the reason for the formation of the country in the first place makes this even more hypocritical and sickening, the fact that the new israeli jews were refugees, that they were persecuted and removed form their homeland in europe. You'd think they of all countries would be more kind to refugees than other countries


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Doltanian


    We could learn alot from the Israeli's they really give two fingers to the idea of political correctness and I four one will always stand fully behind Israel. Trump, Netanyahu and Putin, giving two fingers to the worlds liberals all the time :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    wakka12 wrote: »
    You'd think they of all countries would be more kind to refugees than other countries

    They are kind to Jewish refugees. And are about the only country in the world to be so. Hard to blame them, given many of their ancestors were exterminated only a few generations ago.

    There are plenty of Muslim countries in the world, nearly all of them much larger than Israel, which could take in Muslim refugees. How many of the choose to do so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    How awful of them to actually pay illegal immigrants to leave and ultimately put them in jail for breaking the law if they refuse after some time and refuse the offer of money to go. Just terrible, wow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    maryishere wrote: »
    They are kind to Jewish refugees. And are about the only country in the world to be so. Hard to blame them, given many of their ancestors were exterminated only a few generations ago.

    There are plenty of Muslim countries in the world, nearly all of them much larger than Israel, which could take in Muslim refugees. How many of the choose to do so?

    Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon took in literally millions and millions of refugees and far more than any european country did. Maybe the refugees won't be living in as good conditions as in european refugee centres, but still..they tried. They're not the wealthiest countries


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,217 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    maryishere wrote: »

    There are plenty of Muslim countries in the world, nearly all of them much larger than Israel, which could take in Muslim refugees. How many of the choose to do so?

    Syrian refugees alone-
    Lebanon has over two million, Turkey has over three million, jordan over one and a quarter million, Saudi has half a million, UAe and iraq about 250,000 each, egypt around 100,000.


    Any other crap?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    If this is accurate, then I don't blame them and fair play to them.

    The problem these days is if deportation is the worst you expect you may as well chance it, if ya get caught and sent home it's always worth sneaking back in.

    Every nation should have such a policy from South America, to Europe, to the few decent functioning Africans that no doubt experience it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    Migration of muslims from Muslim Middle Eastern countries is much higher than Migration of muslims to Muslim Middle Eastern countries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    Btw I don't disagree with what Israel is doing. Just find it mad when Jews like Barbara Spectre and George Soros demand we open our borders to one and all.

    I'm not sure on Spectre, but are Israel not exactly fans of Soros?

    To be honest I know it's teh "Jewish State" but every nation has its fools and downright traitors


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