Ulster Team Talk Thread III: Les Miserables SEE MOD WARNING POST #1924 + #2755

Squidgy Black

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Jeez so sale sharks kill off the rumours as well. Presumably afraid of the PR fallout. PJ and SO are going to have to go Southern Hemisphere at this stage.

Wouldn't be so sure they did the exact same with James O'Connor.

Faugheen

Yeah, I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was a way to go back to the negotiating tables to save themselves more money.

Hurrache

The odd thing is that on some sports bulletins this morning they were reporting that management there were saying that they weren't interested in the court of public opinion, all that matters is that they were not guilty in law. You'd have to wonder where those stories were coming from.

Former Former

Sale haven't actually said they're not signing them... "There is no substance to the rumours" is not the same as "we aren't signing them".

Olding would be a good signing with Haley and Addison coming to Ireland, but Jackson would be an odd one.

awec

I don’t know if anyone else follows John Cooney on Twitter or instagram but the man is a class act and a really decent person. His latest post is fantastic.

I hope he has a long career at Ulster.

https://twitter.com/jcooney09/status/991725317520838656

Dubinusa

Wow, class act!

Neil3030

awec wrote: »

I don’t know if anyone else follows John Cooney on Twitter or instagram but the man is a class act and a really decent person. His latest post is fantastic.

I hope he has a long career at Ulster.

https://twitter.com/jcooney09/status/991725317520838656

NO... There's something in YOUR eye....

ionadnapóca

awec wrote: »

I don’t know if anyone else follows John Cooney on Twitter or instagram but the man is a class act and a really decent person. His latest post is fantastic.

I hope he has a long career at Ulster.

https://twitter.com/jcooney09/status/991725317520838656

Very impressive person. & a lionhearted player.

It will never be known how great a loss Pienaar has been but Cooney was a revelation throughout Ulster’s annus horribilis.
The 28-year-old walks away with four statistical accolades as the league’s top points scorer (160), most try assists (10), most penalties (30) and, of lesser importance, the most passes (1410).
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/rugby-statistics-cooney-s-figures-still-stand-up-to-scrutiny-1.3481806

launish116

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/leinster-rugby/leinster-flyhalf-joey-carbery-is-ready-to-make-move-north-to-ulster-36869180.html
Reports Carbery ready to move on a short term deal. Really not happy with this if it comes true.

prawnsambo

launish116 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/leinster-rugby/leinster-flyhalf-joey-carbery-is-ready-to-make-move-north-to-ulster-36869180.html
Reports Carbery ready to move on a short term deal. Really not happy with this if it comes true.

The ideal situation. Everyone isn't happy, so it must be a good deal. :rolleyes:

Neil3030

That is someone writing an article from nothing more than the photo that emerged on Twitter. Let's wait and see.

irishfan9

Neil3030 wrote: »

That is someone writing an article from nothing more than the photo that emerged on Twitter. Let's wait and see.

Des Berry has a pretty decent record.

launish116

If it's true, it's just sickening a one year deal. 
That basically says all you want to know about this move. 
Its no benefit to Ulster and solely to help the IRFU. They keep saying Leinster can't force him, but surely that works with Ulster not wanting him also?

irishfan9

launish116 wrote: »

If it's true, it's just sickening a one year deal. 
That basically says all you want to know about this move. 
Its no benefit to Ulster and solely to help the IRFU. They keep saying Leinster can't force him, but surely that works with Ulster not wanting him also?

yeah it's hardly what leinster want.. it's all about the irish team.

Burkie1203

launish116 wrote: »

If it's true, it's just sickening a one year deal. 
That basically says all you want to know about this move. 
Its no benefit to Ulster and solely to help the IRFU. They keep saying Leinster can't force him, but surely that works with Ulster not wanting him also?

Maybe Ulster do want him because they need to wait until after RWC 2019 to land an NIQ 10.

launish116

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Maybe Ulster do want him because they need to wait until after RWC 2019 to land an NIQ 10.

Sends a great message to McPhilips and talent coming through. I appreciate we have no proven depth at 10, but I don't appreciate our 10 becoming second choice for someone to parachute, grab experience and parachute out.

Burkie1203

launish116 wrote: »

Sends a great message to McPhilips and talent coming through. I appreciate we have no proven depth at 10, but I don't appreciate our 10 becoming second choice for someone to parachute, grab experience and parachute out.

McPhillips can't play every game. And who else have Ulster got ?

irishfan9

Ulster could have a leinster player starting at 3, 4, 7, 8, 9 and 10 next season.

irishfan9

Burkie1203 wrote: »

McPhillips can't play every game. And who else have Ulster got ?

Michael Lowry.
Angus Curtis.

Clegg

launish116 wrote: »

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Maybe Ulster do want him because they need to wait until after RWC 2019 to land an NIQ 10.

Sends a great message to McPhilips and talent coming through. I appreciate we have no proven depth at 10, but I don't appreciate our 10 becoming second choice for someone to parachute, grab experience and parachute out.

If Carbery is a success oop north there's every chance he could stay long term.

Burkie1203

irishfan9 wrote: »

Ulster could have a leinster player starting at 3, 4, 7, 8, 9 and 10 next season.

They should just move to Donnybrook at this stage.

All Leinster backrow is possible

Jones, Murphy and Timoney

Squidgy Black

launish116 wrote: »

Sends a great message to McPhilips and talent coming through. I appreciate we have no proven depth at 10, but I don't appreciate our 10 becoming second choice for someone to parachute, grab experience and parachute out.

There were reports of McPhilips leaving for Exeter before any of this talk was mentioned. If he had his mind made up, this could explain the IRFU alleged intervention.

Also, I'm sure he'd be more than happy to have another player in the team and not get absolutely flogged every game this season.

irishfan9

Clegg wrote: »

If Carbery is a success oop north there's every chance he could stay long term.

or he sees that he can return to his home province and be 1st choice...

launish116

irishfan9 wrote: »

Burkie1203 wrote: »

McPhillips can't play every game. And who else have Ulster got ?

Michael Lowry.
Angus Curtis.

None proven sadly, Curtis is more a 12 and I reckon he will be world class eventually. But I'd far rather give them experience/game time when they'll be here for the long run. Really believe these 3 will be very good in couple seasons.

irishfan9

Squidgy Black wrote: »

There were reports of McPhilips leaving for Exeter before any of this talk was mentioned. If he had his mind made up, this could explain the IRFU alleged intervention.

Also, I'm sure he'd be more than happy to have another player in the team and not get absolutely flogged every game this season.

a 21 year old unestablished outhalf wants to play every game.. not watch his older counterpart establish himself as 1st choice.

Squidgy Black

Clegg wrote: »

If Carbery is a success oop north there's every chance he could stay long term.

Now that I think of it, has there been any player loaned to another province that didn't stay on?

Cooney went to Connacht on loan and stayed there on a permanent contract as did Roux, as did Loughman down in Munster.

launish116

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Clegg wrote: »

If Carbery is a success oop north there's every chance he could stay long term.

Now that I think of it, has there been any player loaned to another province that didn't stay on?

Cooney went to Connacht on loan and stayed there on a permanent contract as did Roux, as did Loughman down in Munster.

Even more of a slap in the face for McPhilips. Surely the contract will be with Leinster? but plays for Ulster?

Hands Like Flippers

irishfan9 wrote: »

Burkie1203 wrote: »

McPhillips can't play every game. And who else have Ulster got ?

Michael Lowry.
Angus Curtis.

Houston. Just out of school but...

irishfan9

Hands Like Flippers wrote: »

Houston. Just out of school but...

presumably joining the academy but unconfirmed.

FellasFellas

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Now that I think of it, has there been any player loaned to another province that didn't stay on?

Cooney went to Connacht on loan and stayed there on a permanent contract as did Roux, as did Loughman down in Munster.

Angus Lloyd.