Snow-ice Warning : Wednesday 27 Dec. 2017 21:00 to Fri 29 Dec 10.00

Kermit.de.frog

Rain will turn to snow as it moves in to Leinster, Connaught and south Ulster Thursday evening.

1 - 3 cm on low ground before thaw.

Snow turns to rain after midnight and things get a little unpleasant but enjoy it while it lasts:)

uck51js9zml2yt

I suppose Dublin will just see rain !!

Kermit.de.frog

Yisroel Squeaking Toxin wrote: »

I suppose Dublin will just see rain !!

A better than even chance Dublin sees snow. Again, temporary.

pad199207

After the disaster of the last event I’m not holding my breath.

Still would be nice to see some flakes over the holidays

lazeedaisy

We're heading to the airport at stupid o clock Friday morning, hope it's not going to be showing then!

bnt

Looking at the HIRLAM, I can see why they say "temporary". A bit of snow followed by more rain, so it's just going to get washed away, I think.

George Sunsnow

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

A better than even chance Dublin sees snow. Again, temporary.

Depends though on how deep the low cranks
The deeper ,the more mild air rushes in and currently it looks like deepening too much too quickly

ninebeanrows

The initial front is looking weaker on latest runs and really doesnt look like it will affect Leinster/ Ulster...the second frontal system will be mainly rain possibly preceded by some sleet for 20 mins or so.

nacho libre

Well one positive of this ongoing pattern is as we go on into January is we may well fall on the right side of marginal for these kind of events more often with the cooler seas.
I can't see any sign for a beast from the east any time soon.
With this in mind listening to this radio documentary on the winter of 1947 it seems it was the best and worst of times for people who experienced it.

pad199207

Expecting all rain here tomorrow. I wouldn’t say there’s any need for this thread to be honest.

George Sunsnow

I’ve zero interest in a beast from the east
That’s a London and SE England obsession
It’s as rare as hens teeth anyway
There’s a myth that a beast from the east is good for snow in Ireland ,it is sometimes for battleground events (incoming sliding Atlantic systems like the majestic jan 1982) but again they are very rare
Snow showers from easterlies depend on fetch which is why if cold enough Dublin likes them as from Liverpool bay across is enough fetch


I’m more interested in A beast from the northeast which is not to be ruled out AT ALL at some point in the coming weeks with the current pattern as geography prevails all points bitterly come into play,they’ve a lot more bite than easterlies and usually more disturbed because you can get North Sea disturbances re fired up on hitting the Irish Sea if you follow?

Anyhow I digress
BBC news24 has the snow over inland north west Leinster west & south ulster and ne Connaught before quickly turning back to rain
Rain mostly elsewhere preceded maybe by a little hill snow

pad199207

I don’t know what kind of a warning that is from Met Eireann for tomorrow.

ninebeanrows

Met E have issued a warning

Snow-ice Warning for Connacht, Cavan, Monaghan, Donegal, Dublin, Kildare, Laois, Longford, Louth, Wicklow, Offaly, Westmeath, Meath, Kerry, Limerick and Tipperary
For a time on Thursday and Thursday and night, there’ll be patchy accumulations of up to 3 cm of snow, especially on high ground, but small amounts at lower levels also.

Occurring for at time in parts of Munster between 7 am and 4 pm
and for a time in parts of Leinster, Connacht and Ulster from 4 pm onwards.

Rain will soon follow, clearing any snow.

nacho libre

George Sunsnow wrote: »

I’ve zero interest in a beast from the east
That’s a London and SE England obsession
It’s as rare as hens teeth anyway
There’s a myth that a beast from the east is good for snow in Ireland ,it is sometimes for battleground events (incoming sliding Atlantic systems like the majestic jan 1982) but again they are very rare
Snow showers from easterlies depend on fetch which is why if cold enough Dublin likes them as from Liverpool bay across is enough fetch


I’m more interested in A beast from the northeast which is not to be ruled out AT ALL at some point in the coming weeks with the current pattern as geography prevails all points bitterly come into play,they’ve a lot more bite than easterlies and usually more disturbed because you can get North Sea disturbances re fired up on hitting the Irish Sea if you follow?

It's true a strictly easterly sourced airmass usually tends to mean dry and cold weather for us.
By a beast from the east i was referring to a north easterly airmass, or what we commonly call a beast from the east. I don't see any signs for that over the next few weeks. Although i note M.T. Cranium in his winter forecast cited mid to late January as the best chance for more sustained cold. His winter forecast of cold polar maritime air masses being a dominant theme , with increased chances for snow in the north and northwest, seems to have been a good call so far.

nacho libre

Weathercheck wrote: »

Met E have issued a warning

It's annoying that it will turn back to rain, but it would be nice to see a couple of hours of snowfall anyway.

ninebeanrows

nacho libre wrote: »

It's annoying that it will turn back to rain, but it would be nice to see a couple of hours of snowfall anyway.

Ye..Hirlam keeps some pep in the first front- which would bring snow..

ZX7R

Strange weather warning all right, could be that the timing of the second rain front is not nailed down yet, if you had enough time between the two fronts you might have some lying snow and lower temperatures giving a bit more snow fall in the second front

IrishHomer

Very heavy wind and snow here in Offaly right now

Meteorite58

Mod Note:Update Thread title to reflect Met Eireann Warning.


National Weather Warnings

STATUS YELLOW

Snow-ice Warning for Connacht, Cavan, Monaghan, Donegal, Dublin, Kildare, Laois, Longford, Louth, Wicklow, Offaly, Westmeath, Meath, Kerry, Limerick and Tipperary
For a time on Thursday and Thursday night, there’ll be patchy accumulations of up to 3 cm of snow, especially on high ground, but small amounts at lower levels also.

Occurring for a time in parts of Munster between 7 am and 4 pm
and for a time in parts of Leinster, Connacht and Ulster from 4 pm onwards.

Rain will soon follow, clearing any snow.

Issued:Wednesday 27 December 2017 13:00
Valid:Thursday 28 December 2017 07:00 to Friday 29 December 2017 06:00

Meteorite58

A cold night in store. It will be interesting to see where it snows. You would think a good few places getting a wintry mix at least, rain will probably keep lower ground snow from lasting long but could very well settle on higher ground.

nacho libre

The Scottish ski resort must be doing well of late. They will probably have snow all the time in the next few days with these systems passing through. The north of England, especially over high ground, too

sjb25

Driving from Wexford to Donegal tommorow morning mite be a bit of craic

Jobs OXO

Could this be anything like 2010. Do we need to think about sticking up on salt, water and oils and other essentials?

JCX BXC

Jobs OXO wrote: »

Could this be anything like 2010. Do we need to think about sticking up on salt, water and oils and other essentials?

Seriously?

Everytime there's a shower of snow forecast you ask if this is 2010!

A quick read of the forecast will tell you that the snow is very short lived, will be washed away quite quickly and an accumulation of 3cm isn't exactly much.

Oops69

Jobs OXO wrote: »

Could this be anything like 2010. Do we need to think about sticking up on salt, water and oils and other essentials?

sweet j

wirelessdude01

Jobs OXO wrote:

Could this be anything like 2010. Do we need to think about sticking up on salt, water and oils and other essentials?

Are you for real? Just check out the actual forecast on met.ie

Jobs OXO

JCX BXC wrote: »

Seriously?

Everytime there's a shower of snow forecast you ask if this is 2010!

A quick read of the forecast will tell you that the snow is very short lived, will be washed away quite quickly and an accumulation of 3cm isn't exactly much.

Ok ok. Just checking. We were all caught out the last time.

Meteorite58

Jobs OXO wrote: »

Ok ok. Just checking. We were all caught out the last time.

Mod Note: Quit it Jobs OXO. See forum charter 5. No trolling/goading posts which serve only to aggravate other users.

Oscar Bravo

New warning, brief mention of Snow only.

STATUS YELLOW

Snow-ice Warning for Ireland
A widespread severe frost Wednesday night/Thursday morning leading to icy conditions on untreated surfaces.
Some showers of snow also.

Issued:Wednesday 27 December 2017 21:00
Valid:Wednesday 27 December 2017 21:00 to Thursday 28 December 2017 21:00

JCX BXC

Was about to post it OB!

Very underwhelming.

Rebelbrowser

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

New warning, brief mention of Snow only.

STATUS YELLOW

Snow-ice Warning for Ireland
A widespread severe frost Wednesday night/Thursday morning leading to icy conditions on untreated surfaces.
Some showers of snow also.

Issued:Wednesday 27 December 2017 21:00
Valid:Wednesday 27 December 2017 21:00 to Thursday 28 December 2017 21:00

I would see that as hedging bets more than anything.

JanuarySnowstor

Their initial warning was way over the top.
This one sounds about right.
Any risk of snowfall looks like being in the south west only aka Cork......lol

Pretzill

Had hail on and off today which has left a white frost underfoot. Very icy out - and really cold can see the predicted snowfall here - there should at least be an ice warning I'd imagine the backroads will be treacherous in the morning.

South Sligo
90m asl

pad199207

Glad I didn’t get excited with that earlier Warning from Met Eireann

George Sunsnow

Yeah for a start southeasterly winds whipping in the milder air more quickly
It’s awful difficult to cover bases

JCX BXC

No mention of snow in any of the just issued TAF's in Ireland.

Dublin and Shannon only mention rain, Knock and Cork have a mention of sleet.

Gaoth Laidir

Aerodrome warnings. Severe ground frost at Cork

Shannon EINN AD WRNG 01 VALID 271900/281100 FROST FBL GND DEPOSITIONS LIKELY BECMG 2300Z MOD GND and FBL Air FCST =

Casement EIME AD WRNG 01 VALID 271800/281000 FROST FBL GND DEPOSITIONS LIKELY BECMG 0000Z MOD GND and FBL Air FCST =

Cork EICK AD WRNG 01 VALID 271800/281100 FROST FBL GND DEPOSITIONS LIKELY BECMG 0000Z SEV GND and MOD Air FCST =

Dublin EIDW AD WRNG 01 VALID 271800/281100 FROST FBL GND DEPOSITIONS LIKELY BECMG 0000Z MOD GND and FBL Air CHECK TEXT NEW ENDING ADDED EIDBYBYX=

Knock EIKN AD WRNG 02 VALID 271800/281100 FROST FBL GND DEPOSITIONS LIKELY BECMG 0000Z SEV GND and MOD Air FCST =

ZX7R

Looks like a lack of perception rather than lack of cold caused the change in met eairann yellow warning

munsterlegend

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

Their initial warning was way over the top.
This one sounds about right.
Any risk of snowfall looks like being in the south west only aka Cork......lol

Kerry would fit that description as well. Probably same old story with snow confined generally to higher areas.

pad199207

George Sunsnow wrote: »

Yeah for a start southeasterly winds whipping in the milder air more quickly
It’s awful difficult to cover bases

This island is cursed when it comes to winter

barney 20v

pad199207 wrote: »

This island is cursed when it comes to winter

Snow is a pain in the a## after the initial fun involved .

I love the novelty of it but it causes great hardships and danger for people living in rural communities.

Be thankful for our ( normally ) mild & wet winters.

pad199207

2010 was absolutely amazing and I willl never forget it, but has it raised our expectations of every following winter?

Every winter since has been absolute torture

redsteveireland

barney 20v wrote: »

Snow is a pain in the a## after the initial fun involved .

I love the novelty of it but it causes great hardships and danger for people living in rural communities.

Be thankful for our ( normally ) mild & wet winters.

Thats fighting talk around here.
I would welcome a decent snowfall, people always figure out a way to deal with difficult situations. It's called life, you have to get on with it as you sure as hell can't do anything about it.

fraxinus1

Yet again the initial weather warnings were way over the top. People becoming immune. I was talking to the brother earlier and as they all know I’m always talking about the weather and when I said there was a chance of some snow tomorrow and a warning issued, he just rolled his eyes. And true to recent form, warnings have been withdrawn.

Why would a warning for less than 3cm of snow even be necessary?

degsie

redsteveireland wrote: »

Thats fighting talk around here.
I would welcome a decent snowfall, people always figure out a way to deal with difficult situations. It's called life, you have to get on with it as you sure as hell can't do anything about it.

Just think for a moment about farmers and people in the emergency services who have to deal with difficult snowy conditions. While you are gleefully building your snowman they are dealing with less than optimal conditions.

pauldry

Just drove through snow covered ungritted roads from Kilkelly to Tubbercurry. It took me an hour to do 30 miles.

Kermit.de.frog

Some inconsistency on how far north the precip/snowfall gets and intensity.

Villain

Hit -4.6c at my station in Tullow

UpTheHillFrom

-0.9 at 8am in North Wexford

tupenny

-2 north Kildare
Praying for snow

Villain

Peaked at -4.9c