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nvidia Shield - Tips & tricks [Read post #1]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭nedd


    One other Plex question ... will the 100's of movies and TV shows on the 6tb hdd use much/most of the Plex internal storage?

    Will it have any effect on the performance of the Plex?

    Is it possible to put this metadata on some other external drive?

    If you go to settings in the Plex app on Shield you can point the storage to external drive. So you can have all of your movies and Plex media data on the 6TB drive. Having it on the external drive will slow it down a little but i doubt enough to cause hassle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    One other Plex question ... will the 100's of movies and TV shows on the 6tb hdd use much/most of the Plex internal storage?

    Will it have any effect on the performance of the Plex?

    Is it possible to put this metadata on some other external drive?

    Yes, the metadata on 6TB of media could possibly fill that 16GB internal storage depending on what other games and stuff you install. You should consider adding something like this making sure you adopt it as internal storage (Google it)

    SanDisk Ultra Fit 128 GB USB Flash Drive USB 3.0 up to 150 MB/s https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01BGTG2A0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jQL.BbZ4EXF10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭captain_boycott


    Bacchus wrote: »
    Really enjoying the Shield so far. Lovely clean interface. Very responsive. I'm looking for an app though for browsing photo galleries or playing a slideshow from an attached external drive.

    So far the best I've found is Fotoo but wondering if anyone else has found other nice apps.


    I just play from Google photos and use this but I believe it will also play from local storage.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 93 ✭✭QuadaLumpins


    Yes, the metadata on 6TB of media could possibly fill that 16GB internal storage depending on what other games and stuff you install. You should consider adding something like this making sure you adopt it as internal storage (Google it)

    SanDisk Ultra Fit 128 GB USB Flash Drive USB 3.0 up to 150 MB/s https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01BGTG2A0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jQL.BbZ4EXF10

    Can I transfer the Plex metadata already written to the Shield internal storage to a USB I put in after Plex has already been set up?

    Is it as simple as cutting and pasting from the Shield internal storage to the USB?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    OSI wrote: »
    I believe you'll have to move the app:

    https://support.google.com/androidtv/answer/6299083?hl=en

    Adopting storage gives you the option to move what's available for moving. The latest versions of Plex the metadata folders are movable. They recommend you disable video preview thumbnail generation

    https://support.plex.tv/articles/221099648-limitations-when-running-plex-media-server-on-nvidia-shield/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,758 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    I just play from Google photos and use this but I believe it will also play from local storage.


    Cheers, I'll try that one out as well... hmmm, wonder would it connect to my SmugMug account too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Bawnmore


    Is there a general consensus on the easiest way of sideloading apps? Just got a Shield this week and downloaded Chrome so I can download APK's directly - is that the easiest way? Chrome seems very finicky with the remote.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Bawnmore wrote: »
    Is there a general consensus on the easiest way of sideloading apps? Just got a Shield this week and downloaded Chrome so I can download APK's directly - is that the easiest way? Chrome seems very finicky with the remote.

    Puffin browser is better on Android TV , its in the play store


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Bawnmore


    Puffin browser is better on Android TV , its in the play store

    I'll download that now - cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭MiskyBoyy


    Best cheap remote until my Nvidia one somehow shows up again? :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Squaredude


    MiskyBoyy wrote: »
    Best cheap remote until my Nvidia one somehow shows up again? :o

    Get the remote app for your phone https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nvidia.shield.remote


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,534 ✭✭✭xtal191


    Bawnmore wrote: »
    Is there a general consensus on the easiest way of sideloading apps? Just got a Shield this week and downloaded Chrome so I can download APK's directly - is that the easiest way? Chrome seems very finicky with the remote.

    Could put them on a USB stick and install them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    If anyone is stuck and needs a replacement remote I have one never used but the batteries have expired, have a Harmony and 2x game controllers so I'm hardly likely to need it. Send me a pm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    xtal191 wrote: »
    Could put them on a USB stick and install them

    I use a network share, the easiest way once setup


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭massy086


    I use a network share, the easiest way once setup

    Would Google drive no be easier.download on phone send to drive then access on the shield


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    massy086 wrote: »
    Would Google drive no be easier.download on phone send to drive then access on the shield

    Same thing. I download apps on phone and send them to remote folder. Whatever works for you. There are plenty of ways.
    Personally I don't want Google drive or Gmail on my Shield though, the less signed in stuff the better. I don't even sign into YouTube. But everyone's different


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭phobia2011


    Bawnmore wrote: »
    Is there a general consensus on the easiest way of sideloading apps? Just got a Shield this week and downloaded Chrome so I can download APK's directly - is that the easiest way? Chrome seems very finicky with the remote.

    Aptoide for Android tv is handy,
    Otherwise google is fine with shield app for mouse control


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭massy086


    phobia2011 wrote: »
    Aptoide for Android tv is handy,
    Otherwise google is fine with shield app for mouse control

    I just got a shield today is there any apps bar Kodi I should install.also is there a Kodi with voice search


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    massy086 wrote: »
    I just got a shield today is there any apps bar Kodi I should install.also is there a Kodi with voice search

    Retrox if you're into gaming


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Any one else notice plex showing a status underneath it's icon on the home screen saying update pending?

    Mines been like this for a few days now, but no update seems to be applied:

    Even within the play store, nothing. :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Anyone change the default launcher using adb?

    Can't get use to the installed launcher and tried others and TV launcher seems best. However if I get sick of that do I have to do factory reset to go back to leanback?

    Not rooted and no interest in doing it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Ok having some issues with Sound

    Have Samsung TV and using couple of remotes. The NVidia, Minix A2 lite (for mouse) and Harmony elite remote(just synched some buttons) Have Amp connected via Optical settings. Also Hdmi cable connected

    I can turn the Shield on using the Harmony remote and assigned buttons on this to go into TV settings. The minix remote I use for mouse but sometimes back and select buttons don’t work so have to revert to NVidia remote

    I have Stbemu installed and the sound was very low. Checked everything and all the volumes was up but sound was very low did not have the amp on. Went into the settings on the shield and changed the CEC and turned this on and then could control the volume via the harmony remote. So when I don’t want the volume to high we use the sound via the tv and others I switch on the AMP using Harmony Activities option

    Was working previously. Ideally just want to have one remote and ordered one so waiting on this but just wondering if any settings need to change.

    Note I am also googling and YouTubing this issue so looking there also

    Any recommended settings or something I need to change


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Ok having some issues with Sound

    Have Samsung TV and using couple of remotes. The NVidia, Minix A2 lite (for mouse) and Harmony elite remote(just synched some buttons) Have Amp connected via Optical settings. Also Hdmi cable connected

    I can turn the Shield on using the Harmony remote and assigned buttons on this to go into TV settings. The minix remote I use for mouse but sometimes back and select buttons don’t work so have to revert to NVidia remote

    I have Stbemu installed and the sound was very low. Checked everything and all the volumes was up but sound was very low did not have the amp on. Went into the settings on the shield and changed the CEC and turned this on and then could control the volume via the harmony remote. So when I don’t want the volume to high we use the sound via the tv and others I switch on the AMP using Harmony Activities option

    Was working previously. Ideally just want to have one remote and ordered one so waiting on this but just wondering if any settings need to change.

    Note I am also googling and YouTubing this issue so looking there also

    Any recommended settings or something I need to change

    It's not recommended use CEC with Harmony as it can cause issues. Your harmony activity volume should be set to the receiver anyway. I have a similar setup although I have HDMI out from the Shield going to a HDMI switch which has optical out going to my receiver. I use passthrough in Kodi to pass to the receiver and have it set to AC3 and DTS capable and to downmix DTS plus, DTS HD etc to Dolby Digital. There is a setting on the Shield in sound settings to pass audio control to external devices.

    Sorry, had a reread, what are you trying to do? Use both receiver and TV speakers? That's just crazy. You'll struggle with that one. Just use the receiver leave the TV down at zero. That's what I do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,801 ✭✭✭✭banie01



    Sorry, had a reread, what are you trying to do? Use both receiver and TV speakers? That's just crazy. You'll struggle with that one. Just use the receiver leave the TV down at zero. That's what I do

    Thats the way I'm reading it too?

    I use mine in pretty much the same way as you, all audio passed to the receiver and TV speakers off.

    Also a +1 on not using the CEC functions with a harmony, it messes up the activities.
    Use either a Harmony remote, or CEC with the TV remote.
    Not both


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    banie01 wrote: »
    Thats the way I'm reading it too?

    I use mine in pretty much the same way as you, all audio passed to the receiver and TV speakers off.

    Also a +1 on not using the CEC functions with a harmony, it messes up the activities.
    Use either a Harmony remote, or CEC with the TV remote.
    Not both

    Just trying to get use to it. We use the Amp and surround speakers the odd time when watching it but sometimes its to loud and need to be able to turn volume down.Would go into settings on TV and select output as optical line so this would cut out the TV sound if we wanted to use surround sound and vice versa if we just wanted tv sound and turn off the amp. Was trying to synch the remote for the amp so that I can use this but previously I used the Minix remote. I might try mess around later and see how if I can turn the volume on TV down to zero and just use amp when watching shield for volume. Need to check activity I have set up on the harmony and see if I can turn tv volume down


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Just trying to get use to it. We use the Amp and surround speakers the odd time when watching it but sometimes its to loud and need to be able to turn volume down.Would go into settings on TV and select output as optical line so this would cut out the TV sound if we wanted to use surround sound and vice versa if we just wanted tv sound and turn off the amp. Was trying to synch the remote for the amp so that I can use this but previously I used the Minix remote. I might try mess around later and see how if I can turn the volume on TV down to zero and just use amp when watching shield for volume. Need to check activity I have set up on the harmony and see if I can turn tv volume down

    You will struggle. Think about it. If you setup the Shield to use passthrough to your receiver your Harmony will not be able to change these Android settings back to downmix to stereo for use on the TV so anything with stereo sound will work but anything with surround will have no sound out on the TV


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Actually thinking about it it may be possible with two different Harmony activities if you set the Shield up to output at 2.0 over HDMI but use passthrough in Kodi settings etc. Netflix would output in 2.0 (because it's Dolby Digital Plus which does not work over optical) probably upscaled to Pro Logic by your receiver but this would be the case anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Actually thinking about it it may be possible with two different Harmony activities if you set the Shield up to output at 2.0 over HDMI but use passthrough in Kodi settings etc. Netflix would output in 2.0 (because it's Dolby Digital Plus which does not work over optical) probably upscaled to Pro Logic by your receiver but this would be the case anyway.

    Ok need to understand this more bit confusing:confused:

    I have 2 activities set up on the Harmony. One for the TV turns TV on HDMI 1 and AMP left off. That's seems to work ok just sometimes it turns on TV and opens hdmi2 bit switches to hdmi1

    Second activity is turn tv on, turn amp on turn shield on using hdmi 2. That's working ok

    So previously I was using an android box and when I set up activity for this would turn on tv, box, amp and set to hdmi2 but sound would come out of the TV and the AMP. Thus in the tv settings I would change accordingly to sound output and no issues with volume and I could control the volume via the minix lite remote

    However with Shield volume not great when using STbemu etc.Not using Kodi using also IPTV smarters and other 'apps'

    need to read up more what passthrough is:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Passthrough doesn't touch the audio, it passes it through to your receiver untouched for it to do the processing. Does the receiver tell you the format of the audio it's receiving?

    Where does the optical to the receiver connect? Is it to the TV? Does it passthrough? And more importantly does it support Dolby formats (most don't as it's extra for a Dolby licence and output stereo)?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Passthrough doesn't touch the audio, it passes it through to your receiver untouched for it to do the processing. Does the receiver tell you the format of the audio it's receiving?

    Where does the optical to the receiver connect? Is it to the TV? Does it passthrough? And more importantly does it support Dolby formats (most don't as it's extra for a Dolby licence and output stereo)?

    "Does the receiver tell you the format of the audio it's receiving"

    Where can I find this info?

    "Where does the optical to the receiver connect? Is it to the TV? Does it passthrough? And more importantly does it support Dolby formats (most don't as it's extra for a Dolby licence and output stereo)?"

    Amp is Yamaha RX V359 see image below
    https://www.world-import.com/images/D/rxv359_rtl.jpg

    I connect the optical cable directly from TV to Amp Not sure if it passthrough or if supports Dolby formats?


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