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Compelling evidence that intelligent alien life has visited Earth

  • 20-12-2017 1:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭


    https://twitter.com/cnn/status/942925945916162048

    The man who ran the UFO division in the Pentagon says their is compelling evidence that intelligent alien life has visited Earth.

    I believe there is a high possibility of intelligent alien life existing.
    Look at life on Earth, then think of all the billions and billions of stars in our own galaxy, and all the planets around these stars.
    Then to think there are billions and billions of galaxies each with billions and billions of stars and stars with multiple planets.
    The odds on intelligent life increase greatly.

    Now a person who worked on the UFO investigative section in the Pentagon believes the evidence exists that aliens have visited Earth.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I think nearly everyone agrees its very likely other intelligent life exists somewhere. it just that no matter where it may be its extremely far away and so chances of interaction are very low


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Kerry Katona?

    Oh wait they said intelligent alien life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭Don Kiddick


    Never in recorded history... Donald Trump would be singing it from the rooftops if it had happened


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Never in recorded history... Donald Trump would be singing it from the rooftops if it had happened

    You think it would only be Donald Trump?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Never in recorded history... Donald Trump would be singing it from the rooftops if it had happened

    Think of what you're saying man - He'd keep schtum, Donald has got to be an alien himself. Humans don't come in that colour!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,292 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    CRAB PEOPLE!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    wakka12 wrote: »
    I think nearly everyone agrees its very likely other intelligent life exists somewhere. it just that no matter where it may be its extremely far away and so chances of interaction are very low

    Yeah, Space is crazy huge! our nearest Star System is so far away that it would take something like the Voyager Probe 40, 000 years to reach.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Any other intelligent life form, would keep the absolute foook away from planet earth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    Ex Pentagon UFO researcher grows goatee and has mid life crisis.

    And that "extraterrestrial" artifact was an artist's impression. For all we know it could have been a spaceship full of Klingons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    "Intelligent" life probarbly exisits all around us at this very moment in time it's just we as humans don't have the senses of equipment to notice or communicate with such life forms.
    What's the quote? "it's life Jim but not as we know it" .

    I always think we're a tiny part of something unfathomabley huge like our universe is the nucleus of an atom of something bigger.... much bigger.

    Ah well day dreaming won't pay the mortgage, back to beating lumps of timber together for the afternoon!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    That DoD video is pretty compelling though. Not some grainy, shaky nonsense from a cornfield in Alabama, it's an actual video from an aircraft. That said, it looks like it's in infrared, so there's every chance this is some kind of meteorological phenomenon causing "tic tac" shaped dark spots on the IR.

    What has amazed me is that the more cameras there seems to be, the less videos of UFO sightings that have come about.

    Tbh, alien life visiting earth wouldn't be a surprise from the "Oh, you exist" point of view. It's pretty much a given that alien life must exist somewhere. What it would do is completely blow our model of physics, and understand of the universe wide open.

    If life can visit us, then it means they've traversed unimaginable distances, either by breaking the laws of physics as we know them, or by building an intergenerational craft - which is still well beyond our capabilities. And on the balance of probabilities would also provide a solution for Fermi's paradox by asserting that life is extremely common.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    He doesn't have evidence, just believes there's evidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    We know of at least 13 planets including our own in the Circumstellar habitable zone.

    These planets I believe were only discovered recently (Last 10/15 years of looking)

    There is without doubt intelligent life out there.

    Bare in mind there are star systems that are millions of years older than ours, Humans have only existed in our current form for approx 50,000 years.

    There could be species on other planets that are 10 times that age, and as such would have developed significantly move advanced tech. Such to the extent that it could be beyond our understanding.
    IE Faster than light travel, Time Dilation and they would surely have licked quantum physics.
    Even if we got our hands on one of these things it would be unlikely that we would be able to reverse engineer it.

    I suppose it's plausible that they may have visited here but unlikely that they would have stayed, as we probably have very little (Or nothing) to offer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭lifeandtimes


    seamus wrote: »
    That DoD video is pretty compelling though. Not some grainy, shaky nonsense from a cornfield in Alabama, it's an actual video from an aircraft. That said, it looks like it's in infrared, so there's every chance this is some kind of meteorological phenomenon causing "tic tac" shaped dark spots on the IR.

    What has amazed me is that the more cameras there seems to be, the less videos of UFO sightings that have come about.

    Tbh, alien life visiting earth wouldn't be a surprise from the "Oh, you exist" point of view. It's pretty much a given that alien life must exist somewhere. What it would do is completely blow our model of physics, and understand of the universe wide open.

    If life can visit us, then it means they've traversed unimaginable distances, either by breaking the laws of physics as we know them, or by building an intergenerational craft - which is still well beyond our capabilities. And on the balance of probabilities would also provide a solution for Fermi's paradox by asserting that life is extremely common.

    Linky to this video?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Joe prim


    RobertKK wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/cnn/status/942925945916162048

    The man who ran the UFO division in the Pentagon says their is compelling evidence that intelligent alien life has visited Earth.

    I believe there is a high possibility of intelligent alien life existing.
    Look at life on Earth, then think of all the billions and billions of stars in our own galaxy, and all the planets around these stars.
    Then to think there are billions and billions of galaxies each with billions and billions of stars and stars with multiple planets.
    The odds on intelligent life increase greatly.

    Now a person who worked on the UFO investigative section in the Pentagon believes the evidence exists that aliens have visited Earth.

    Short version; Guy who worked all his life looking for extra-terrestrial life doesn't want to admit it's all been a waste of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    'Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.'

    -Arthur C. Clarke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    grahambo wrote: »

    I suppose it's plausible that they may have visited here but unlikely that they would have stayed, as we probably have very little (Or nothing) to offer.


    One of the previous posters mentioned Fermi's paradox.
    This basically says that if life was reasonably common then the whole place should be swarming with advanced life forms who have existed for millions or billions of years.

    The human race evolved in 4.5 billion years (the age of the planet).
    The universe is 14 billion years old. So there should be millions of advanced species which have evolved advanced life billions of years ago. We should be able to detect life easily if there were this many interstellar species.

    So either interstellar travel is actually not possible, everyone else is so advanced that they are staying away from our primitive species, or its inevitable that advanced life eventually destroys itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Me and my friends saw ‘something’ in the sky in 1993.This thing was sitting still in the sky and was absolutely huge,partially hidden behind the clouds.I half remember saying something like “Ok lads,I don’t think that’s a plane”.We were looking at it for about 30 seconds and I had to stop because I was fairly freaked out.We then went indoors.I remember there was something in the media about UFO sightings soon after.

    Then I stumbled across this old boards thread yesterday.The last post is a bit spooky.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72229308


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    I think there are no intelligent ETs in the universe and that The Great Filter is behind us.

    That air force video was pretty cool though.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 193 ✭✭21Savage


    I reckon we are alone insofar as we are the only sentient beings in this universe which is mind boggling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    If we scale the Sun down to the size of a white blood cell, then the Milky Way will be the size of the United States (continental)

    And there are more stars in the Milky Way than there are grains of sand
    on a beach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    seamus wrote: »
    That DoD video is pretty compelling though. Not some grainy, shaky nonsense from a cornfield in Alabama, it's an actual video from an aircraft. That said, it looks like it's in infrared, so there's every chance this is some kind of meteorological phenomenon causing "tic tac" shaped dark spots on the IR.

    What has amazed me is that the more cameras there seems to be, the less videos of UFO sightings that have come about.

    Tbh, alien life visiting earth wouldn't be a surprise from the "Oh, you exist" point of view. It's pretty much a given that alien life must exist somewhere. What it would do is completely blow our model of physics, and understand of the universe wide open.

    If life can visit us, then it means they've traversed unimaginable distances, either by breaking the laws of physics as we know them, or by building an intergenerational craft - which is still well beyond our capabilities. And on the balance of probabilities would also provide a solution for Fermi's paradox by asserting that life is extremely common.

    Linky to this video?


    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/12/19/us/pilot-david-fravor-ufo-jim-sciutto-outfront-cnntv


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    One of the previous posters mentioned Fermi's paradox.
    This basically says that if life was reasonably common then the whole place should be swarming with advanced life forms who have existed for millions or billions of years.

    True, but Life cannot exist (as we know it) in the void of space.
    Life also cane only evolve in the Circumstellar habitable zone (Goldilocks zone)
    Therefore we wouldn't expect to find life on every planet, but in the places where it can exist, it should flourish.
    The human race evolved in 4.5 billion years (the age of the planet).
    The universe is 14 billion years old. So there should be millions of advanced species which have evolved advanced life billions of years ago. We should be able to detect life easily if there were this many interstellar species.

    Yes Earth was created approx 4.54 billion years ago but life only appeared on Earth 4.28 Billion years ago. Although Fractional, it is still a huge amount of time.
    Example only in the last 100 years have we been able to split the atom, launch satellites into orbit, build a space station, build micro processors etc etc.
    The rate of our technological evolution is exponential.

    Also factor in things like religion and the dark ages which effectively prohibited science for hundreds of years and it's easy to see how a species that began at effectively the same starting line as us could be thousands of years more advanced
    So either interstellar travel is actually not possible, everyone else is so advanced that they are staying away from our primitive species, or its inevitable that advanced life eventually destroys itself.

    2 and 3 are probably correct. We nearly managed number 3 ourselves in October 1962

    I certainly hope 1 is not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    I forgot to add,looking back now what I saw was probably a Mothership.I have always taken a passing interest in UFOs ever since.There is plenty evidence of incidents involving Pilots,Police etc and one famous case involving a UFO and 64 kids playing in a school yard in Zimbabwe in 1994.There will be a documentary film about that case coming out in early 2018.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Chrongen


    Without the ability to travel at or above the speed of light you can pretty much rule out any alien visitors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Chrongen wrote: »
    Without the ability to travel at or above the speed of light you can pretty much rule out any alien visitors.

    Did it occur to you that their technology could be a million years more advanced than ours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭Bob Harris


    c_man wrote: »
    I think there are no intelligent ETs in the universe and that The Great Filter is behind us.

    Not according to the church anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    Did it occur to you that their technology could be a million years more advanced than ours.

    Yes that may be so, but it could also be that it is impossible to travel faster than light, regardless of how advanced your technology is. (I hope not).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    I'm not even sure there's intelligent life in the Dail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Interesting video about the Gaffney incident.The night police talked to an alien.

    https://youtu.be/spINrGMxgKA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    man saying something on TV = compelling evidence

    God forbid I find myself in the dock someday and the OP on the jury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


    Yes that may be so, but it could also be that it is impossible to travel faster than light, regardless of how advanced your technology is. (I hope not).

    Breaking the speed of light may not be the issue
    Worm holes or bending space time around you are theoretically possible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    I find UFO's to be a bit like ghosts. I'm not going to believe it until there is clear, indisputable evidence that what I'm looking at in the video or the photo is a UFO/Ghost. The fact that everyone has a mobile camera these days has not substantially increased the likelihood ghosts or UFO's are real anymore than in pre-smartphone era. So i'm inclined to think it's bollox.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,292 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Agricola wrote: »
    I find UFO's to be a bit like ghosts. I'm not going to believe it until there is clear, indisputable evidence that what I'm looking at in the video or the photo is a UFO/Ghost. The fact that everyone has a mobile camera these days has not substantially increased the likelihood ghosts or UFO's are real anymore than in pre-smartphone era. So i'm inclined to think it's bollox.


    But but but ... drake equation ... gazillions of stars .. unfathomable numbers! they must be there ! including a planet full of ghosts :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    9189283.jpg

    This never gets old.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Lots of clips on utube of local sightings, but most videos are re-posted with overdubs and music tracks so just seeking subscribers.

    This triangle looks like one I've seen way back in 88-89
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDLdC0y3BMU
    The video is interesting as recorded via night vision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Inviere


    We should be able to detect life easily if there were this many interstellar species.

    In the case of detecting signs of alien life forms, there's no such thing as easy. Given radio signals travel at the speed of light, our own earliest unintentional broadcasts into space happened about 100 years ago. That means they've traveled 100 light years into space, in a galaxy that's about 100k light years across. Compound that with modern digital broadcast signals, which are much shorter wave than our old fashioned broadcasts. These deteriorate much, much quicker, and would be unrecognizable in a much shorter distance. We're basically making much less noise than we used to.

    Who's to say alien radio waves didn't pass by us for 200 years during the renaissance when we weren't listening, before they themselves began using more focused/less durable transmissions, and therefore became harder & harder for us to detect? There are all kinds of possibilities and theories. But the notion that "we should have detected something by now" is complete nonsense when the size of our galaxy alone is considered. It's like standing on a beach on the coast of Kerry, shouting out to sea "is anyone there", and upon hearing nothing back, concluding we're alone on this island.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    Are Am Eye wrote: »
    If we scale the Sun down to the size of a white blood cell, then the Milky Way will be the size of the United States (continental)

    And there are more stars in the Milky Way than there are grains of sand
    on a beach.

    Add to that the Hubble Deep Field where the hubble telescope was pointed at what was considered to be an empty bit of space spanning an area "about one 24-millionth of the whole sky, which is equivalent in angular size to a tennis ball at a distance of 100 metres" in which there were around 3,000 galaxies.

    The scale of the universe is really incomprehensible and I think there is little doubt there is life out there, but has that life visited earth I'm not sure because as incomprehensible as the number of planets out there is, so is the vast distances of interstellar and intergalactic space.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    wakka12 wrote: »
    I think nearly everyone agrees its very likely other intelligent life exists somewhere. it just that no matter where it may be its extremely far away and so chances of interaction are very low

    “Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.”
    ― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    Kivaro wrote: »
    “Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.”
    ― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

    Exactly

    This is how big it is:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    grahambo wrote: »
    True, but Life cannot exist (as we know it) in the void of space.
    Life also can only evolve in the Circumstellar habitable zone (Goldilocks zone)
    Therefore we wouldn't expect to find life on every planet, but in the places where it can exist, it should flourish.
    .

    Our kind of life can only evolve in the Goldilocks zone. What's to say that there aren't other types of life out there that's vastly different to our understanding of life?

    If a similar life form to us developed a billion years before us, I doubt that the vast distances of space would be a problem for them. A billion years of learning and technology improvements would overcome many problems.

    Given enough time and resources, almost any problem is solvable. Great distances in space a problem, create faster transport. If that's not possible, create beings that can live for a billion+ years.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 193 ✭✭21Savage


    I watched this video and apparently if there is life out there and our radio signals reach them, the Nuremberg Rallies is probably the first transmission they would hear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Our kind of life can only evolve in the Goldilocks zone. What's to say that there aren't other types of life out there that's vastly different to our understanding of life?

    If a similar life form to us developed a billion years before us, I doubt that the vast distances of space would be a problem for them. A billion years of learning and technology improvements would overcome many problems.

    Given enough time and resources, almost any problem is solvable. Great distances in space a problem, create faster transport. If that's not possible, create beings that can live for a billion+ years.

    Given that extremephiles can live in the most hospitable of places life can evolve outside the goldielocks zone
    fair enough they may not be complex life

    If the planet or moon has water/ ice life can also evolve

    There could possibly be life in the oceans under the ice of Europa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,412 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Brexit+leave+won+yay+brilgreenim+not+a+brit+but+as_c1941a_5955960.jpg


    It's life Jim, but not as we know it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭Gwynplaine


    Marty Morrissey is proof


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,057 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    There may be intelligent life out there but would they consider us to be intelligent?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 193 ✭✭21Savage


    There may be intelligent life out there but would they consider us to be intelligent?

    Yeah. Be a pretty retarded civilisation if they can't appreciate another sentient species imo


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    21Savage wrote: »
    Yeah. Be a pretty retarded civilisation if they can't appreciate another sentient species imo

    How many insects a day do you crush without giving it a second thought, intentionally or not

    We may be ants to them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,942 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Who's their leader?
    Check Earth media.
    Back up lads we're heading home.
    But that's a 100 year journey.
    Shut up Steven we're going home.


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