Irish Rail staff unhappy with their Christmas Bonus

mockingjay

Gosh, I would be delighted to receive a €500 Dunnes Stores Voucher as a Christmas Bonus. I could do all my grocery and present shopping there - I get no bonus!

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/irish-rail-staff-unhappy-with-their-christmas-bonus-818823.html

King George VI

Ungrateful ratbags, I found a fiver the other day and nearly cried!

titan18

A voucher for Dunnes is a bit meh alright. Nice value on it alright, but I know a lot of workplaces (mine included) give prepaid debit cards so can use them wherever, including online shopping

Infini

Ahh the christmas salty thread. Home of stupidity!

(If your wondering why people arent happy its because they were promised a one 4 all voucher and were given a dunnes voucher instead. Its being told one thing and given another thats got em unhappy rather than the amount.)

punisher5112

I would say a lot could be against Dunne's for their work practices and poor dealing of staff etc.

Nice thing to have for doing the Christmas shop but I do find Dunne's has gotten very expensive.

Mr. teddywinkles

They do realise that most people don't get bonuses.

Hoboo

Irish Rail put it out for bidding, saved themselves €230k. Are they nuts in there, it'll cost them more to sort it out.

Bob Harris

punisher5112 wrote: »

I would say a lot could be against Dunne's for their work practices and poor dealing of staff etc.

Nice thing to have for doing the Christmas shop but I do find Dunne's has gotten very expensive.

Aren't they lucky then to have a 500€ voucher to offset that expense.

realdanbreen

Infini wrote: »

Ahh the christmas salty thread. Home of stupidity!

(If your wondering why people arent happy its because they were promised a one 4 all voucher and were given a dunnes voucher instead. Its being told one thing and given another thats got em unhappy rather than the amount.)

The one 4 all vouchers depreciate by €3 or something every month so they are a bit of a rip off really.

punisher5112

Mr. teddywinkles wrote: »

They do realise that most people don't get bonuses.

And so what they can change career or move up the ladder. So I keep hearing and see posted on sites such as this.


Look at the social they get a Christmas bonus for doing nothing, bankers paid big big money get a bonus and many many others.


If you don't get one consider bringing it up in the company you work in.

McMurphy

The Irish rail staff that are complaining need a good kick in their holes.

€500 is an extraordinary good bonus at Christmas time. Loads of places where you'd get shag all.

Bunch of ungrateful hoors.

punisher5112

realdanbreen wrote: »

The one 4 all vouchers depreciate by €3 or something every month so they are a bit of a rip off really.

That's after 12 months.

cantdecide

Aren't vouchers just a way of avoiding PRSI and PAYE anyway? Don't really know but that's what I've been lead to believe.

cournioni

cantdecide wrote: »

Aren't vouchers just a way of avoiding PRSI and PAYE anyway? Don't really know but that's what I've been lead to believe.

Yup. Nothing wrong with that.

punisher5112

cantdecide wrote: »

Aren't vouchers just a way of avoiding PRSI and PAYE anyway? Don't really know but that's what I've been lead to believe.

Everyone can get a once off tax free total of €500 in a year.

sunnysoutheast

cantdecide wrote: »

Aren't vouchers just a way of avoiding PRSI and PAYE anyway? Don't really know but that's what I've been lead to believe.

Revenue-approved small gift exemption. No taxes are payable.

Mr. teddywinkles

punisher5112 wrote: »

And so what they can change career or move up the ladder. So I keep hearing and see posted on sites such as this.


Look at the social they get a Christmas bonus for doing nothing, bankers paid big big money get a bonus and many many others.


If you don't get one consider bringing it up in the company you work in.

And be shown the door no thanks. I appreciate my job.

punisher5112

Mr. teddywinkles wrote: »

And be shown the door no thanks. I appreciate my job.

Well then why begrudgingly against them getting one???

Why not send in a suggestion you can put your name on or choose not to.

Cape Clear

What value of vouchers do employers usually give staff?

murpho999

That article and this thread title is totally misleading.

The voucher is not a Christmas bonus but part of a labour court agreed settlement of a legitimate industrial dispute. It is a one off payment.

I can understand that some are not happy being restricted to Dunnes Stores as I never shop there myself personally.

Why couldn't they give a One 4 All Voucher?

cruizer101

I didn't agree with the strikes, however an agreement was made which included a 500 one for all voucher which was changed to a Dunnes voucher. If someone changes the terms of an agreement the other party has every right to be annoyed. Dunnes is a s**thole with lots of dodgy work practices and I'd be pi$$ed if I got given a voucher for there instead of a one for all voucher.

As I say I disagree with their original claims but given the agreement that was made they do have a right to be pissed off.

Riskymove

murpho999 wrote: »

I can understand that some are not happy being restricted to Dunnes Stores as I never shop there myself personally.

/QUOTE]

I understand that you cannot please everyone but I would hope that the suggestion that the whole deal would fall apart and we'd be back to strikes is a complete exaggeration by the papers

amcalester

realdanbreen wrote: »

The one 4 all vouchers depreciate by €3 or something every month so they are a bit of a rip off really.

Only after 12 months.

murpho999

realdanbreen wrote: »

The one 4 all vouchers depreciate by €3 or something every month so they are a bit of a rip off really.

No they don't.

After 12 months there is an "inactive balance fee"

A monthly inactive balance charge of €1.45 (or the credit balance on the Card, if lower) will be charged after the Card has been in issue for 12 months. This charge will start to be applied from the following month and will continue until such times as the balance on the Card is zero and this Agreement is terminated.

Link: See Section 6.3

Not saying it's right but it's €1.45 a month after 12 months.

Bob Harris

cruizer101 wrote: »

If someone changes the terms of an agreement the other party has every right to be annoyed. Dunnes is a s**thole with lots of dodgy work practices and I'd be pi$$ed if I got given a voucher for there instead of a one for all voucher.

..but think of all the Paul Galvin and Paul Costello stuff you could buy in Dunnes with 500 notes.

ERG89

Infini wrote:

(If your wondering why people arent happy its because they were promised a one 4 all voucher and were given a dunnes voucher instead. Its being told one thing and given another thats got em unhappy rather than the amount.)

After hearing that Irish Rail are worse than Hitler and Pol Pot combined!

diomed

I was eligible for an annual bonus. Got it twice in fifteen years.

punisher5112

diomed wrote: »

I was eligible for an annual bonus. Got it twice in fifteen years.

This is a once off bonus to keep them sweet and away from strike though.

I think all workers should receive a Christmas bonus though.

s3rtvdbwfj81ch

Bob Harris wrote: »

..but think of all the Paul Galvin and Paul Costello stuff you could buy in Dunnes with 500 notes.

A Paul Costello lump of driftwood!

Turtyturd

punisher5112 wrote: »

I would say a lot could be against Dunne's for their work practices and poor dealing of staff etc.

I would say they couldn’t give a flying f*ck about their practices.

suicide_circus

Oh please **** off you moany ****ebags.

whisky_galore

Bob Harris wrote: »

..but think of all the Paul Galvin and Paul Costello stuff you could buy in Dunnes with 500 notes.

A peaky blinders waistcoat paired with skinny jeans and a donkey jacket.

diomed

Direct provision allowance recipients will take the €500 vouchers if offered.

diomed

whisky_galore wrote: »

A peaky blinders waistcoat paired with skinny jeans and a donkey jacket.

Brilliant :pac:

They can f*ck right off. I really think that Irish Rail need to lay off 95% of their workforce and either fully automate their trains (somehow) or hire totally new staff. Same with Bus Eireann. Both are just money grabbing c*nts.

punisher5112

diomed wrote: »

Direct provision allowance recipients will take the €500 vouchers if offered.

They get more then enough...

Turtyturd

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They can f*ck right off. I really think that Irish Rail need to lay off 95% of their workforce and either fully automate their trains (somehow) or hire totally new staff. Same with Bus Eireann. Both are just money grabbing c*nts.

Dublin Bus too.

murpho999

diomed wrote: »

I was eligible for an annual bonus. Got it twice in fifteen years.

This was not a Christmas bonus but an agreed payment with the labour court as part of their strike setllement.

DEFTLEFTHAND

That's 25 slabs of Molson for Christs sake.

Whats wrong with these people?

uck51js9zml2yt

I'm in the civil service. I get no bonus and have to pay for the Christmas lunch!

gazzer

Maria Screeching Cheese wrote: »

I'm in the civil service. I get no bonus and have to pay for the Christmas lunch!

My friends never believe me when I tell them the same thing. Then again they also thought I got paid to decentralise

indioblack

King George VI wrote: »

Ungrateful ratbags, I found a fiver the other day and nearly cried!

If it was an old white fiver it must have had your head on it.

mark_jmc

the union really needs to close its nonsense spouting mouth.
the agreement included €500 worth of goodwill vouchers- it was not specified that One4all vouchers would be given.


At a time when the idea of a bonus is alien to a large amount of workers,
they really need to move their snouts slightly away from the trough to allow themselves to breathe a little more easily.

mosesgun

Think certainly if it formed part of a pay agreement, they should honour it and not restrict them to one outlet. They obviously got a bulk deal from Dunnes so their outlay would have been less than €500 a voucher. They wouldn't have got this from all 4 one or perfect card etc. It's a clever move but not what you'd call fair for the employee.

TrustedApple

Loved if I just got a 500 Euro gift card where I work.

But where i work you get your bonus is depending on what you have done for the company over the year. What projects you done, money saying and so on.

I ended up with a nice bonus and salary rise as I was just in the door I even told my boss I was not expecting anything anyway when we had the meeting ha.

So what I got I was delighted with as I did not expect anything and the fact if I work more next year I get a bigger reword.

This is how a bonus should be done not just handed to you because it's xmess !!!

Widdershins

Infini wrote: »

Ahh the christmas salty thread. Home of stupidity!

(If your wondering why people arent happy its because they were promised a one 4 all voucher and were given a dunnes voucher instead. Its being told one thing and given another thats got em unhappy rather than the amount.)

ONE 4 ALL can't be used for groceries. It says it's redeemable in 1,000s of shops but a tiny handful of those accept the vouchers online. PITA.

Tough f****** luck, ungrateful fatcats.

davmol

I work in the private sector and am appalled with what these miserable entitled gobsh1tes get away with.
Irish rail say they are in debt of millions and they need cutbacks,in my sector people lose their jobs no whining or poor me.What do they do in irish rail they strike and demand pay increases??So, screw th fact that the company could fold those miserable entitled wastes of oxygen demand they get higher wages and complain that they get 500 bonus,wll I work my ar$e off and get nothing.
Unreal!

Masala

Widdershins wrote: »

ONE 4 ALL can't be used for groceries. It says it's redeemable in 1,000s of shops but a tiny handful of those accept the vouchers online. PITA.

Tough f****** luck, ungrateful fatcats.

Yes..... lots of retailers dont take them!! I heard a retailer say that they take too much of a commission and take ages to pay the retailer. So... retailer feel it better to stay out of the scheme

lucid365

Rick Shaw wrote: »

The Irish rail staff that are complaining need a good kick in their holes.

€500 is an extraordinary good bonus at Christmas time. Loads of places where you'd get shag all.

Bunch of ungrateful hoors.

Just like what infini said,the Irish rail staff where promised 1 for all vouchers which can be spent with a lot of venders,the company changed it to dunnes in order to get a bigger discount,but breaking their promise to the staff,the staff don't have a problem with the amount but have a problem with the company changing the vender,<snip>

Mod note: We'll have less of the abuse, please.

Buford T. Justice

Mutant z

Ffs are they ever not moaning about something the ungrateful scuts.

BillyBobBS

Mr. teddywinkles wrote: »

They do realise that most people don't get bonuses.

Upskill and become a train driver so.