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PSNI staff recruitment 2017

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Maybe this week eh!

    I'd like to think so, recruitment department have more bodies free lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭jwhdkl5736


    Hold on - why are the PSNI recruiting dispatchers if they're outsourcing it to Capita Business Services?

    http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2018/02/27/news/psni-refuse-to-reveal-how-much-capita-contract-is-worth-1264904/
    PSNI refuse to reveal how much Capita contract is worth

    Capita are to provide control room services the PSNI.


    27 February, 2018 01:00

    CONTROVERSIAL public sector contractor Capita has been awarded a contract to provide command and control systems to the PSNI.

    However, neither the PSNI nor Capita would reveal how much public money the contract was worth.

    The company announced yesterday it had been awarded a contract to deliver its command and control system for contact centre and control room operations across the PSNI's three regional contact management centres.

    The contract is for an initial seven-year term with incremental options to extend it to 17 years.

    The company said its ControlWorks system will help deliver "operational benefits", including the ability to assess and prioritise demand and risk at each point of contact with the public and enable the PSNI to "manage all its operations from a single viewpoint".

    Deputy Chief Constable Drew Harris welcomed the move saying "technology plays a part in everything we do as a police service".

    "It is vital that we invest in future-proof solutions that enable us to provide effective and efficient services 24 hours a day in Northern Ireland.

    "Capita's ControlWorks solution will help us to do exactly that, supporting the way we respond to our communities’ needs and adapting to new and evolving policing challenges as they present themselves", he added.

    George Greig, Director, Capita Secure Solutions and Services, said: "It was clear from the start of our collaboration with PSNI that they understood the importance of having innovative solutions in place to help coordinate resources, make highly-informed decisions and rapidly communicate these to police officers and the public."

    In October last year the outsourcing group announced the appointment of a new chief executive Jon Lewis to help turn around the fortunes of the company.

    The new boss slashed profit forecasts and set out plans to raise cash to avoid the same fate as collapsed rival Carillion resulting in 40 per cent being wiped off the company's market value.

    Carillion collapsed under a pile of debt earlier this year.

    Capita, which provides IT services to companies and governments, said afterwards it needed a complete overhaul and to 'retrench'.

    In January the information commissioner ordered the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) in Britain to release a report into Capita and Atos.

    The two outsourcing companies are paid hundreds of millions of pounds to carry out personal independence payment (PIP) assessments,

    In April last year Channel 4's Dispatches programme went undercover in Capita. An investigator posed as a trainee disability assessor to see how the PIP assessments were conducted leading to widespread criticism of the company's practices.

    When asked yesterday a spokesperson for Capita said they could not comment on how much the contract was worth.

    The PSNI also would not comment on the value of the contract when asked.


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭jwhdkl5736


    Are they just providing the system/software or are they providing the fully staffed service?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Same as the civil service.

    If you get in this time you will be PSNI staff with NICS terms and conditions.

    If you get in after this drive you will be a Capita Employee, just like PIP

    The only civil servants in PIP are Decision makers and payment processors. All telephony and post are Capita.

    Main reason will be the fact that if you are Capita they don't have to provide pension contributions or sick pay

    BTW I really detest Capita


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭jwhdkl5736


    CDO candidates, check your email's for a brief update on the details process going forward.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Got mine. ��


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭jwhdkl5736


    Slo85 wrote: »
    Got mine. ��

    I wonder what this said test entails... :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭Blondamundo


    Meanwhile dispatchers as you were, there's paint to watch dry lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Maxi515 wrote: »
    I wonder what this said test entails... :confused:


    I hope something similar to the initial selection tests


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭jwhdkl5736


    Slo85 wrote: »
    I hope something similar to the initial selection tests

    Did you get an email from the recruiter directly, with more instructions to follow next week?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Maxi515 wrote: »
    Did you get an email from the recruiter directly, with more instructions to follow next week?



    I did. It said we should hear by the 9th.


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭jwhdkl5736


    Just wanted to bounce something off CDO applicants. As far as I know, there is a 5-week training course associated with custodial care we would need to take if we are successful. Again, as far as I know, the training provided for such a course takes place somewhere in GB. For those who are also still in the campaign for 1710 police constable recruitment, what do we do if this conflicts with PCA or substance misuse testing do you think?


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Lockie101


    Slo85 wrote: »
    Get in. Me too.

    Kind of out of the loop recently, are you still in the 1710 campaign Slo?


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Lockie101


    Very dry wait here on my side for CH and DP, however after the 1710 I am actually getting used to doing a small step and then waiting for a while before taking another small step


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭stm1


    CH is moving nicely I thought??? Results from the test are soon with next stages shortly after.


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Lockie101


    Yeah in all fairness I was too rough on the CH, it actually is progressing quite nicely! Three weeks until the suggested interviews starting and if they stick to that then the campaign as a whole will actually have been quite snappy, DP on the other hand I have yet to get an acknowledgement of my application yet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    I know CDOs having worked with a few PSP and custodial care training is done in Antrim...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Tgey arent going to pay for flights, allowances and because it's civil service terms and conditions paying youbfrom the minute you leave your house to the minute you arrive back at home 😂


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    On a plus note, as CDOs are 4 on 4 off you like the guys i know will have time for a 2nd job.

    Yes overtimr will be available but because of civil servoce terms and conditions you will be forced to 'rest' on occasion. It's so you can't sue them


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Lockie101 wrote: »
    Slo85 wrote: »
    Get in. Me too.

    Kind of out of the loop recently, are you still in the 1710 campaign Slo?


    Yep I am indeed. Eggs in a few baskets so to speak.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Slo85 wrote: »
    Lockie101 wrote: »
    Slo85 wrote: »
    Get in. Me too.

    Kind of out of the loop recently, are you still in the 1710 campaign Slo?


    Yep I am indeed. Eggs in a few baskets so to speak.

    Nothing wrong with contingency planning


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Slo85 wrote: »
    Lockie101 wrote: »
    Slo85 wrote: »
    Get in. Me too.

    Kind of out of the loop recently, are you still in the 1710 campaign Slo?


    Yep I am indeed. Eggs in a few baskets so to speak.

    Nothing wrong with contingency planning

    Definitely my plan. Can always withdraw my application if I’m successful in the 1710 campaign. Well here’s hoping.
    Tho I’d imagine these posts will be filled long before that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Lockie101


    Slo85 wrote: »
    Definitely my plan. Can always withdraw my application if I’m successful in the 1710 campaign. Well here’s hoping.
    Tho I’d imagine these posts will be filled long before that.

    Nothing wrong with that, I am applying for everything right now because I am nearing the end of my education and need something full-time to get into


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Lockie101 wrote: »
    Slo85 wrote: »
    Definitely my plan. Can always withdraw my application if I’m successful in the 1710 campaign. Well here’s hoping.
    Tho I’d imagine these posts will be filled long before that.

    Nothing wrong with that, I am applying for everything right now because I am nearing the end of my education and need something full-time to get into

    Always good to have a backup plan. I’m getting to a stage where I’m beginning to really dislike my job so I’ve applied for a few other things too tho I really want the cdo or obviously what we all want to be a officer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Lockie101


    Slo85 wrote: »
    Always good to have a backup plan. I’m getting to a stage where I’m beginning to really dislike my job so I’ve applied for a few other things too tho I really want the cdo or obviously what we all want to be a officer.

    The main aim for everyone here is to be in the same place, but its getting something to do in the meantime


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Lockie101 wrote: »
    Slo85 wrote: »
    Always good to have a backup plan. I’m getting to a stage where I’m beginning to really dislike my job so I’ve applied for a few other things too tho I really want the cdo or obviously what we all want to be a officer.

    The main aim for everyone here is to be in the same place, but its getting something to do in the meantime

    Yep and it’s a long process and nothing worse than being in a job you hate while waiting 🙈


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Lockie101


    Slo85 wrote: »
    Yep and it’s a long process and nothing worse than being in a job you hate while waiting ��

    Most definitely! Hope you get a job in the police staff in the mean time, who knows, we might end up desk buddies some day XD

    Also, pm’d you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Lockie101 wrote: »
    Slo85 wrote: »
    Yep and it’s a long process and nothing worse than being in a job you hate while waiting ��

    Most definitely! Hope you get a job in the police staff in the mean time, who knows, we might end up desk buddies some day XD

    Also, pm’d you

    Wouldn’t that be great craic 😜😜


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Goonerdee


    Slo85 wrote: »

    Always good to have a backup plan. I’m getting to a stage where I’m beginning to really dislike my job so I’ve applied for a few other things too tho I really want the cdo or obviously what we all want to be a officer.

    I’m in a dilema the other way, I’m starting to love my job and sometimes I wonder am I mad to leave it. But there is always that little voice saying “you would regret not trying”


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭FinalTry32


    Did i hear that the interviews for CH’s start in the next few weeks? And then the next stage of the CDO’s should be out soon too?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Goonerdee wrote: »
    Slo85 wrote: »

    Always good to have a backup plan. I’m getting to a stage where I’m beginning to really dislike my job so I’ve applied for a few other things too tho I really want the cdo or obviously what we all want to be a officer.

    I’m in a dilema the other way, I’m starting to love my job and sometimes I wonder am I mad to leave it. But there is always that little voice saying “you would regret not trying”

    I’m ready for just leaving. Small people are driving me to the hills today


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    FinalTry32 wrote: »
    Did i hear that the interviews for CH’s start in the next few weeks? And then the next stage of the CDO’s should be out soon too?


    I got the email about the 1st stage of the cdo today with results being towards the end of the month and interviews shortly after that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭FinalTry32


    I got the email about the 1st stage of the cdo today with results being towards the end of the month and interviews shortly after that.[/quote]


    Ah brilliant!! Good Luck with it!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭jwhdkl5736


    Slo85 wrote: »
    I got the email about the 1st stage of the cdo today with results being towards the end of the month and interviews shortly after that.

    Have you attempted the assessment/questionnaire?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Maxi515 wrote: »
    Slo85 wrote: »
    I got the email about the 1st stage of the cdo today with results being towards the end of the month and interviews shortly after that.

    Have you attempted the assessment/questionnaire?


    I did literally did it as soon as I got it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Well done guys. Grafton vs deloittw... grafton seem much more rapid and together


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭jwhdkl5736


    Slo85 wrote: »
    I did literally did it as soon as I got it.

    How did you find it? As intense as the IST?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Maxi515 wrote: »
    Slo85 wrote: »
    I did literally did it as soon as I got it.

    How did you find it? As intense as the IST?


    Not even in the slightest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭jwhdkl5736


    That's encouraging. I might do mine tomorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Maxi515 wrote: »
    That's encouraging. I might do mine tomorrow.


    I did it on my phone too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭stm1


    Seriously? I found the CH test 100 times harder than the IST.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    stm1 wrote: »
    Seriously? I found the CH test 100 times harder than the IST.


    Really. What was it like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭stm1


    There was a lot more to it so keeping the concentration was tough. They said it should take 30 to 40 mins but there's no time limit. No way I would have finished in time if there was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    stm1 wrote: »
    There was a lot more to it so keeping the concentration was tough. They said it should take 30 to 40 mins but there's no time limit. No way I would have finished in time if there was.


    Again no time limit for the cdo but they said 10 minutes would do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Dispatchers just chillin


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭jwhdkl5736


    Having completed that I that and finding it relatively straightforward I think the competition will be tight. Everyone will score very highly. Maybe the 100%er's will be taken to interview.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Maxi515 wrote: »
    Having completed that I that and finding it relatively straightforward I think the competition will be tight. Everyone will score very highly. Maybe the 100%er's will be taken to interview.

    I was worried it was to straightforward and I’ve overlooked something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    I have a theory for dispatchers.

    Grafton are a small firm and as such may only be able to manage 2 competitions at a time.

    Coupled with the fact that there was an internal dispatcher trawl.

    Means that we wont hear until after CDO and CH merit lists are set


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Thoughts?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Thoughts?[/quot

    Quite possibly but why run the 3 at the same time if they can’t cope.


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