Worst sledging you have received or heard on a gaa pitch?

jk23

I recently was playing a match and the usual was going on. Shoulders and more bravado like that. But I noticed more and more players are trash talking and sledging on the pitch. Do you think it’s part of the game or unsporting behaviour?

Motivator

jk23 wrote: »

I recently was playing a match and the usual was going on. Shoulders and more bravado like that. But I noticed more and more players are trash talking and sledging on the pitch. Do you think it’s part of the game or unsporting behaviour?

It can go too far often enough. I was playing a match a couple of years ago and a young guy on the opposition team came on and within 5 mins he was sent off. One of the fellas on our team had said something that basically couldn’t be repeated. The young chap got something said to him that made him snap, he turned and pulled across my teammate and walked off in tears.

There’s a back story to what was said as our guy knew the young lads family. it was never repeated by either player but my teammate owned up and said he went too far with it. To this day it has never been repeated but there was trouble for weeks after it. I think that getting that personal with someone, especially with a young fella who was 18 or 19 at the time, when you’re in your 30s is pretty low. There was an attempted investigation by our club into it but they couldn’t take any action because it never came out what was said! I’d rather not know to be honest.

Trash talking is one thing but personal stuff is way over the top I think.

jk23

Motivator wrote: »

It can go too far often enough. I was playing a match a couple of years ago and a young guy on the opposition team came on and within 5 mins he was sent off. One of the fellas on our team had said something that basically couldn’t be repeated. The young chap got something said to him that made him snap, he turned and pulled across my teammate and walked off in tears.

There’s a back story to what was said as our guy knew the young lads family. it was never repeated by either player but my teammate owned up and said he went too far with it. To this day it has never been repeated but there was trouble for weeks after it. I think that getting that personal with someone, especially with a young fella who was 18 or 19 at the time, when you’re in your 30s is pretty low. There was an attempted investigation by our club into it but they couldn’t take any action because it never came out what was said! I’d rather not know to be honest.

Trash talking is one thing but personal stuff is way over the top I think.

Jesus that’s horrible stuff. Family and personal life stuff shouldn’t be brought up. It’s fairly low life behaviour. What sort of thing is fair game? Calling a lad useless or ****e?

Water John

Aisling Thompson Cork camogie has referred to this before, in relation to her own mental health issues. Really shocking, anyone would stoop so low. Happened in a club game.

bucketybuck

That **** is absolutely endemic in GAA, anybody thinking otherwise is just fooling themselves. For a lot of people, anything that can be said will be said, anything personal they have on you they will use on you, all in the name of getting an edge.

Its such a scummy sport in so many ways.

Nekarsulm

Not GAA, but when I played rugby one of our lads was penalised for something, and declared "the referees a wanker"
The Ref heard him, and declared "its a pity your father wasn't" !
Then he moved us back another 10 yards to remind us who was in charge .....

VONSHIRACH

A Galway pal alleges that one of the "tough" dudes on the Tipp team of 89-91 greeted a Galway player on the field with the words " nice day for a hanging". Galway player's sibling had passed away. Absolute low life if true and shameful behaviour.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Never had much said to me personally, but heard of a well known incident where (think it was a minor game) a few years ago Tyrone were playing Donegal and a young fella had something said to him about his father who had passed away recently. It seems there are no boundaries in some people's eyes. If a gossin on any team I managed was at that ****e, he'd be for the high road. Don't know how anyone can condone it, at any level, be it an u-10 Division 5 game, or the All Ireland final.

Bloc Party!

Can’t remember who’s book it was in but there was a player or two who’d get his markers partners mobile number and write it on his arm before going out on the field 😳

Peatys

Every time a player was on the pitch who lost a parent, it was always mentioned.

Along the lines of, 'lucky your mam isn't around to see that'

Powerhouse

VONSHIRACH wrote: »

A Galway pal alleges that one of the "tough" dudes on the Tipp team of 89-91 greeted a Galway player on the field with the words " nice day for a hanging". Galway player's sibling had passed away. Absolute low life if true and shameful behaviour.

I was wondering how long we would get in the thread called "Worst sledging you have received or heard on a gaa pitch?" before it would turn into a procession of time-honoured hearsay allegations about matches the posters weren't involved in at all. In fairness, I'd not have assumed we'd have made it to seven posts.

awaywithyou

Simple solution to sledging Fromm an opponent is to whack em in the mouth ad hopefully break something... It's what an opponent deserve.....

ProudDUB

Powerhouse wrote: »

I was wondering how long we would get in the thread called "Worst sledging you have received or heard on a gaa pitch?" before it would turn into a procession of time-honoured hearsay allegations about matches the posters weren't involved in at all. In fairness, I'd not have assumed we'd have made it to seven posts.

Yeah, I'll give the thread two pages before it descends into another yet Mayo v Dublin slanging match. :rolleyes:

(Not that I'd ever be a party to any of that malarkey. )

So yeah, how about we keep it to posters own personal experience, like the thread title says?

keith_sixteen

Remember playing a game at full back years ago, junior B or something. Anyway...this scumbag of a centre forward winding me and the keeper up all game.

Keeper was taking a kickout and yer man comes running up behind him barking like a dog and grabs his kicking leg on the back swing.

Floors the keeper and when I come in with a few shoulders he's suddenly all aggreived.

Anyway, from what I saw, a lot of men are angry with their lot in life.

celt262

keith_sixteen wrote: »

Keeper was taking a kickout and yer man comes running up behind him barking like a dog and grabs his kicking leg on the back .

Had the keepers dog died recently?

the_pen_turner

VONSHIRACH wrote: »

A Galway pal alleges that one of the "tough" dudes on the Tipp team of 89-91 greeted a Galway player on the field with the words " nice day for a hanging". Galway player's sibling had passed away. Absolute low life if true and shameful behaviour.

I'm from tipp . I can tell you its probably true. iv heard it several times

if I had lost a brother to suicide the week before by hanging and someone said that to me I think I would blow a fuse and go mad

tomwaterford

There is the allegation of what a famous waterford player said to anthony daly in the drawn munster final of 98....about bateing the wife (tbc I dunno if any truth to the allegation)


>>heard it from a player who was on the pitch

>>it was referenced in loughnanes book aswell

Powerhouse

the_pen_turner wrote: »

I'm from tipp . I can tell you its probably true. iv heard it several times

if I had lost a brother to suicide the week before by hanging and someone said that to me I think I would blow a fuse and go mad

Good man. If it's "probably" true then it should be spread and as many unnamed players as possible maligned. And in fairness, if you've heard it "several times" it must be true 'cos these things are always well tested for truth before being spread.

the_pen_turner

Powerhouse wrote: »

Good man. If it's "probably" true then it should be spread and as many unnamed players as possible maligned. And in fairness, if you've heard it "several times" it must be true 'cos these things are always well tested for truth before being spread.

I'm only 99% certain. that's why I didn't say either names.
I was told the story by one of the guys that was on the team and pitch that day. I'm sure he would be fairly reliable

Powerhouse

tomwaterford wrote: »

There is the allegation of what a famous waterford player said to anthony daly in the drawn munster final of 98....about bateing the wife (tbc I dunno if any truth to the allegation)


>>heard it from a player who was on the pitch

>>it was referenced in loughnanes book aswell

But that didn't stop you repeating it here though!

OldMrBrennan83

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Powerhouse

the_pen_turner wrote: »

I'm only 99% certain. that's why I didn't say either names.
I was told the story by one of the guys that was on the team and pitch that day. I'm sure he would be fairly reliable

Well, you are either certain or you are not. Certainty is an absolute state - 99% doesn't come into it.

Unless you name names you could be just making it up. Big claims require big evidence. Don't be shy now. If we are going to scrape the barrel let's do it properly.

ForestFire

Powerhouse wrote: »

But that didn't stop you repeating it here though!

It's referenced in a book that is published.....

This is one of the few posts that is NOT just hearsay.....

tomwaterford

Powerhouse wrote: »

Well, you are either certain or you are not. Certainty is an absolute state - 99% doesn't come into it.

Unless you name names you could be just making it up. Big claims require big evidence. Don't be shy now. If we are going to scrape the barrel let's do it properly.

You want someone to libel themselves and boards.ie aswell??

the_pen_turner

Powerhouse wrote: »

Well, you are either certain or you are not. Certainty is an absolute state - 99% doesn't come into it.

Unless you name names you could be just making it up. Big claims require big evidence. Don't be shy now. If we are going to scrape the barrel let's do it properly.

are we aver truly 100% certain about anything that we didn't experience .

Powerhouse

tomwaterford wrote: »

You want someone to libel themselves and boards.ie aswell??

But if it's true and has been referenced in a book already (which presumably was not the subject of a libel case) then why not name the player?

It's simple really - name the player or leave it out. It's just unfair on every other player on the team. As discussions go I think this one is as low as it gets. If everyone stuck to the terms of reference in the title and gave their own personal stories instead of descending into pub talk yarns, libel wouldn't need to be mentioned.

Powerhouse

the_pen_turner wrote: »

are we aver truly 100% certain about anything that we didn't experience .

Precisely my point. I'm probably old-fashioned but I don't understand the spreading of rumours or the perpetuating of old rumours of an especially nasty type. I have no idea who gains from that.

Greybottle

My Dad was a selector on the club U-21 team one year. He overheard one of his own lads slagging off an opponent about a recently deceased uncle. So he was subbed off.

At half time the oul fella had words with him and ended up punching him in the head. Player was told not to show up for training again.

The player concerned told me the full story a few years later, I missed it as I was working in England at the time. Player said he always regretted saying what he did, so some good came out of it.

This would be early 90s, so the incident was left at that. You probably wouldn't get away with it today as quickly.

the_pen_turner

Powerhouse wrote: »

But if it's true and has been referenced in a book already (which presumably was not the subject of a libel case) then why not name the player?

It's simple really - name the player or leave it out. It's just unfair on every other player on the team. As discussions go I think this one is as low as it gets. If everyone stuck to the terms of reference in the title and gave their own personal stories instead of descending into pub talk yarns, libel wouldn't need to be mentioned.

sorry . can you point me in the direction of your post that follows your own rules.
your contributions are just as off topic as mine. maybe more so.

I don't play gaa so cant comment on any first hand experience.

I'm sorry I didn't understand that any input have to be vetted and have references available

the_pen_turner

Powerhouse wrote: »

Precisely my point.

where do you draw the line. I heard the story several times and once by someone who was there and would know.
what more can I do to make it 100%

Powerhouse

the_pen_turner wrote: »

sorry . can you point me in the direction of your post that follows your own rules.
your contributions are just as off topic as mine. maybe more so.

I don't play gaa so cant comment on any first hand experience.

I'm sorry I didn't understand that any input have to be vetted and have references available

I never mentioned my own posts, nor vetting or references. However, I am happy to discuss my posts by PM with you if you are that interested in them.

My issue is not that your posts are "off topic" - you can come on here and discuss Chinese music for all I care. I just think that spreading rumours about alleged nasty incidents does not reflect well on posters. It's what Eamon Sweeney memorably called 'rats feeding at the effluent pipe' when he spoke of GAA discussion boards. I see no value in it, though I realise I am probably in a minority.

tomwaterford

Powerhouse wrote: »

But if it's true and has been referenced in a book already (which presumably was not the subject of a libel case) then why not name the player?
.

Iirc the player wasn't named in the book??


I have already stated Idk if the slur was true....just stated most famous time I've heard it being used

Powerhouse

the_pen_turner wrote: »

where do you draw the line. I heard the story several times and once by someone who was there and would know.
what more can I do to make it 100%

Happily, knowing where to draw the line was easy in this case. Stick to the title of the thread.

the_pen_turner

Powerhouse wrote: »

I never mentioned my own posts, nor vetting or references. However, I am happy to discuss my posts by PM with you if you are that interested in them.

My issue is not that your posts are "off topic" - you can come on here and discuss Chinese music for all I care. I just think that spreading rumours about alleged nasty incidents does not reflect well on posters. It's what Eamon Sweeney memorably called 'rats feeding at the effluent pipe' when he spoke of GAA discussion boards. I see no value in it, though I realise I am probably in a minority.

I'm not one for starting of spreading rumours . but this is diferent . I have heard it first hand

Professor Moriarty

the_pen_turner wrote: »

are we aver truly 100% certain about anything that we didn't experience .

Cogito ergo sum, as I used to say to the corner back who was marking me.

Powerhouse

tomwaterford wrote: »

Iirc the player wasn't named in the book??


I have already stated Idk if the slur was true....just stated most famous time I've heard it being used

Ah sure whatever. It's just hearsay so irrespective of what book it appeared in. But like I said already, it's probably just me..............many people thrive on a good nasty rumour.

Powerhouse

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Cogito ergo sum, as I used to say to the corner back who was marking me.

But did that corner back actually exist?

Nekarsulm

Well this thread soon went to st!t. Thanks, you two.

Powerhouse

the_pen_turner wrote: »

I'm not one for starting of spreading rumours . but this is diferent . I have heard it first hand

You said in another post you never hurled...................now you're saying you were on the pitch as you heard the comment being made first-hand. I think we'll leave it there.

bucketybuck

Powerhouse wrote: »

You said in another post you never hurled...................now you're saying you were on the pitch as you heard the comment being made first-hand. I think we'll leave it there.

You have 11/40 posts in this thread and every one of them thread****ting.

the_pen_turner

Powerhouse wrote: »

You said in another post you never hurled...................now you're saying you were on the pitch as you heard the comment being made first-hand. I think we'll leave it there.

yes I heard the story first hand not the comment

anyway I'm done with the trolling nonscience

flatty

Never had any sledging tbh. I'm likely not good enough to bother.

Are Am Eye

Around about the time people started getting sent off for giving someone a box was the beginning of slow and gradual rise of the chat.

tomwaterford

Powerhouse wrote: »

Ah sure whatever. It's just hearsay so irrespective of what book it appeared in. .

OK. ..so no proof will suffice for you?

Powerhouse

tomwaterford wrote: »

OK. ..so no proof will suffice for you?

I don't need any proof. What difference does it make to me who might have said what years ago? I am simply calling your bluff to show that you cannot back up the story which potentially reflects badly on a small number of Waterford players (county is irrelevant too) namely those who are "famous" (as you described it) and would have been in the vicinity of Anthony Daly on the pitch.

It would not take Sherlock Holmes to come up with a shortlist and I think players deserve better than to have their names indirectly traduced on such a forum especially after such a passage of time. That's where I'm coming from. I look for a reasonable amount of direct evidence because I know it's probably the one thing you cannot provide and I would hope that reflects badly on the rumours you spread.

Powerhouse

the_pen_turner wrote: »

yes I heard the story first hand not the comment

anyway I'm done with the trolling nonscience

Interesting Freudian slip there. Non-science indeed.

tomwaterford

Powerhouse wrote: »

I don't need any proof. What difference does it make to me who might have said what years ago? I am simply calling your bluff to show that you cannot back up the story which potentially reflects badly on a small number of Waterford players (county is irrelevant too) namely those who are "famous" (as you described it) and would have been in the vicinity of Anthony Daly on the pitch.

It would not take Sherlock Holmes to come up with a shortlist and I think players deserve better than to have their names indirectly traduced on such a forum especially after such a passage of time. That's where I'm coming from. I look for a reasonable amount of direct evidence because I know it's probably the one thing you cannot provide and I would hope that reflects badly on the rumours you spread.

Tbf your coming across as someone who,unless I was on the pitch that day with a tape recorder....wouldn't believe me anywayz

(If anything your coming across as wanting to call lad what told me a liar?)



As I've said I've no reason to disbelieve what I've heard (and yes i did hear the name and complete circumstances,what lead to it) and am regretablly unwilling to liable myself/have a big enough ego to please you

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

I heard racist abuse towards Pakistani players a few times as a young lad.

Powerhouse

tomwaterford wrote: »

Tbf your coming across as someone who,unless I was on the pitch that day with a tape recorder....wouldn't believe me anywayz

(If anything your coming across as wanting to call lad what told me a liar?)

As I've said I've no reason to disbelieve what I've heard (and yes i did hear the name and complete circumstances,what lead to it) and am regretablly unwilling to liable myself/have a big enough ego to please you

I'm sure you have no reason to disbelieve it. But you are spreading the story on a public forum which requires (or at least should) a bit more than your own personal conviction. I don't doubt that you firmly believe it to be the case but I don't see the value in spreading the story if you cannot give it any more credibility. I just think it is unfair on all players concerned.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

Powerhouse wrote: »

You said in another post you never hurled...................now you're saying you were on the pitch as you heard the comment being made first-hand. I think we'll leave it there.

Great work, Miss Marple. Now is there any chance you might hold off boring everyone to death with your tedious self-importance so that this thread can resume?

Because that would be just great. :rolleyes:

As for me, I have personally witnessed plenty of racial abuse in GAA games, along with dirty digs about family members etc. There was one young traveller lad who just wanted to keep his head down and play for our team, he got awful abuse in particular.

You can argue all you want about this, but when you scratch the surface, the GAA has more in common with the ugly behaviour of British football hooligans than you might want to believe.

Of course there are many decent people in the GAA, but the knuckledraggers have a lot of influence on the culture within.
The bottom line is that this kind of behaviour is openly tolerated by the GAA, if not blatantly encouraged in certain circles.

Bonniedog

Mouthing has always gone on, with players giving back and forth, but the calculated researched stuff about family deaths, and so on is a more recent innovation. Some players, and I suspect managements, expend considerable time and effort in securing information designed to hurt and therefore throw an opponent off his game. As others have said some of the stories are urban or rural legend, but some of the worse cases have certainly taken place.

Keaveney told a story about playing Offaly in the 70s when Mick Wright called him an "oul fish and chip man." Keaveney actually sounded annoyed about it years and years later! Innocent times

Worst thing ever said to me in my declining years - okay perhaps they were all declining years!- was chap I was marking asking me had I missed the bingo bus